in game rules

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i can't find a list of them anywhere, besides a few on the log in screen that appear to have been outdated for quite some time. i even googled it, it only directed me to the forum rules - nothing about in game.

anyway.

i'm curious to know if editing the .ini file to your character for a more "customized" look is against any of these hidden rules? b:question

Baeliia - Heavens Tear

Yes editing .ini files is against the rules and is bannable.

There are a few posts from GM's in several threads that states not to edit any at all.. then I've seen posts about being able to edit certain files giving your character certain features that are originally meant for that class.. which doesn't leave much that you're allowed to do.

So putting tideborn/earthguard hair on another class is not allowed. Making your character really fat or really skinny is not allowed. Putting hair on your Barb is not allowed. Making your female chars have a HUGE chest is not allowed.. etc etc

Hope that helps b:surrender

Xainou - Sanctuary

There's a petition for character .ini edits to be allowed b:mischievous

gyroki

When u charge enough money nothing will happen to you ever. There is even e.g. a faction called (frost) Glitchers on our server and a very well known person is the leader of this factionb:shutup. But he charges alot and GMs like the extreme money charging faction of his main. And yup, many ppl in this faction have enlarged the **** of their manga toons. They have to compensate alot this way because they will never get close enough to some in rl b:laugh

Hideori - Lost City

yes, there is rules. no, theres no list.

Veri - Lothranis

From the ToS AKA the rules
http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms


you agree not to engage in, any: (a) resale, sublicense, lending or commercial use of the Services or the Proprietary Materials therein; (b) distribution, public performance or public display of any Proprietary Materials except in connection with game play in the ordinary course,

(d) modifying, adapting, altering, enhancing, or otherwise making any derivative uses of any Games, game content or other Proprietary Materials, or any portion thereof ;

(e) use of any data mining, robots or similar data gathering or extraction methods; (f) downloading (other than the page caching) of any portion of the Proprietary Materials or any information contained therein, except as expressly permitted on the Site; (g) reverse engineer or decompile the Proprietary Materials, or otherwise attempt to derive source code from the Games or other software included in the Proprietary Materials; or (h) any use of the Services or the Proprietary Materials other than for its intended purpose. Any use of the Service or the Proprietary Materials other than as specifically authorized herein, without the prior written permission of PWE is strictly prohibited and will, at PWE's option, terminate the license granted herein. Such unauthorized use may also violate applicable laws including without limitation copyright and trademark laws and applicable communications regulations and statutes Unless explicitly stated herein, nothing in these Terms shall be construed as conferring any license to or rights in intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, implication or otherwise. This license is revocable at any time with or without cause.

prof

derivative uses? did you know editing your chars .ini has absolutely no effect on the game what-so-ever? it's allowed in other servers, why not pwi lol

Knownase - Heavens Tear

People just do it anyways, I've seen loads of players with eyes from the EG race, or hairstyles from the TB race.

From what I see, the risk is pretty low.....if any at all.

Broederjr - Lost City

PWE rules there are no rules unless you get caught and even then they wont do anything so jsut do what you want

Veri - Lothranis

prof wrote: »

derivative uses? did you know editing your chars .ini has absolutely no effect on the game what-so-ever? it's allowed in other servers, why not pwi lol

derivative uses:
Referring to a work, such as a translation or adaptation(in this case to the content of the game), based on another work that may be subject to copyright restrictions.

It has no effect in the game you say ?
I thought it is used to make your character look different AKA not playing by the allowed default settings and modifying the game files.
Theres also the fact that they SELL some of the stuff for virtual currency possibly modifying your character to look it is wearing ingame currency items without having payed for them doesnt sound quite right to me.

sangodoc

Baeliia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes editing .ini files is against the rules and is bannable.

There are a few posts from GM's in several threads that states not to edit any at all.. then I've seen posts about being able to edit certain files giving your character certain features that are originally meant for that class.. which doesn't leave much that you're allowed to do.

So putting tideborn/earthguard hair on another class is not allowed. Making your character really fat or really skinny is not allowed. Putting hair on your Barb is not allowed. Making your female chars have a HUGE chest is not allowed.. etc etc

Hope that helps b:surrender

Basically correct, except that you can edit the systemsettings.ini file to allow you to change the "ScaleUI" setting so that you can fix some problems if your window is too small for the UI. (See here.)

So it's not "certain features that are originally meant for that class", it's "certain features that are meant to be able to see and use, but may not be able to if your resolution is too low".

Baeliia - Heavens Tear

Sangodoc wrote: »

So it's not "certain features that are originally meant for that class"

so.. say you want to make a veno.. and use a preset that has bunny ears but you want a fox tail on that particular preset.. are you allowed to edit the file so that the preset you select has fox ears/tail rather than the bunny ears?
or even further.. use a elf/human preset and make it into a veno? I've heard both yes and no to this. b:puzzled

prof

Veri - Lothranis wrote: »

derivative uses:
Referring to a work, such as a translation or adaptation(in this case to the content of the game), based on another work that may be subject to copyright restrictions.

It has no effect in the game you say ?
I thought it is used to make your character look different AKA not playing by the allowed default settings and modifying the game files.
Theres also the fact that they SELL some of the stuff for virtual currency possibly modifying your character to look it is wearing ingame currency items without having payed for them doesnt sound quite right to me.

erm? if you mean wigs, those are items; not selectable choices for any class. you must be reading the wrong forum if you think those can be selected here. b:laugh if you were to, for example, use the hair from another class(or what most people did back in myen, which is make their barbarians' super fat), what does this hurt? how is this harming pwi in any way, shape, or form?

it's not.

sangodoc

Baeliia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

so.. say you want to make a veno.. and use a preset that has bunny ears but you want a fox tail on that particular preset.. are you allowed to edit the file so that the preset you select has fox ears/tail rather than the bunny ears?
or even further.. use a elf/human preset and make it into a veno? I've heard both yes and no to this. b:puzzled

No. You can only use the presets that are included with the game and the modifications to those presets that are possible through the UI (User Interface). (Though I should mention that there are a few presets that have things, like hair colors, that are not normally available through the UI.)

Basically, if you're editing any INI file, other than the exception I mentioned in my other post, you're violating the Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed up to play the game.

prof wrote: »

if you were to, for example, use the hair from another class(or what most people did back in myen, which is make their barbarians' super fat), what does this hurt? how is this harming pwi in any way, shape, or form?

it's not.

Are you 100% positive? The reason might be that certain unexpected settings in character models cause client instability. I know I've seen some weird glitchy stuff from people who edited their character models. So maybe thats why.

I don't know if that's the reason, but even if it isn't, it's still bannable, and I bet you'd feel pretty dumb getting banned and losing all of your hard work over your need for something like a particular haircut or whatever.

Edit: Whoops! I meant to add the above to the previous post instead of creating a new post.

Edit #2: Thanks to KrittyCat for fixing my double-post.

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver

Sangodoc wrote: »

No. You can only use the presets that are included with the game and the modifications to those presets that are possible through the UI (User Interface). (Though I should mention that there are a few presets that have things, like hair colors, that are not normally available through the UI.)

Basically, if you're editing any INI file, other than the exception I mentioned in my other post, you're violating the Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed up to play the game.

thousands of player dit it and still nothing happened xD

prof

Sangodoc wrote: »

Are you 100% positive? The reason might be that certain unexpected settings in character models cause client instability.

this is just pwe's "opps" excuse, it has no effect on stability.

Sangodoc wrote: »

I know I've seen some weird glitchy stuff from people who edited their character models. So maybe thats why.

the glitchiest things i could imagine would be using female or male hairs on the wrong sex, but this doesn't so much glitch - it just doesn't fit the model properly.

Baeliia - Heavens Tear

Ty Sangodoc b:thanks

Baeliia - Heavens Tear

ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver wrote: »

thousands of player dit it and still nothing happened xD

True. But like OP wanted to know.. Is it against the rules? Which it is.. unfortunately b:sadb:surrender

Xainou - Sanctuary

Sangodoc wrote: »

Are you 100% positive? The reason might be that certain unexpected settings in character models cause client instability. I know I've seen some weird glitchy stuff from people who edited their character models. So maybe thats why.

And that's why PW China and every private server crash so much? b:surrender
I seriously doubt it. It is allowed for the EU servers after all. So yea .-.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Baeliia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

so.. say you want to make a veno.. and use a preset that has bunny ears but you want a fox tail on that particular preset.. are you allowed to edit the file so that the preset you select has fox ears/tail rather than the bunny ears?
or even further.. use a elf/human preset and make it into a veno? I've heard both yes and no to this. b:puzzled

You're allowed to move a file from one of the class folders to another as long as it stays in the same range. Aka wizard to cleric or a psychic to assassin. But you're not allowed to give an old class like venos a hairstyle of the earthguard. b:surrender

As for the venos... I dunno. Can't say if that even works, I been a cat always and never tried to change my ears But I can imagine it would work somehow oO,

Edit: Oops, double post ._. I'm sleepy...

Kalirin - Sanctuary

Rules didnt know there were any as Ive seen tons of giant headed barbs female toons with the wrong race hair styles etc. They say DONT but do they do anything if you DO it doesnt seem like it. Just charge zen and do as you please like someone else already mentioned b:chuckle

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver

Baeliia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Making your female chars have a HUGE chest is not allowed

Sure it is, there's a slider bar for it in the character design screen (inb4 a lot of huge-chested chars suddenly pop up..)

truekossy

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sure it is, there's a slider bar for it in the character design screen (inb4 a lot of huge-chested chars suddenly pop up..)

Not quite

Character customization INI file for a female BM wrote:

[Body]
bodyID = 0
colorBody = -5209769
headScale = 115
upScale = 120
waistScale = 127
armWidth = 121
legWidth = 126
breastScale = 146

Anything above.... 180ish I think (can't be arsed to log on, max bust slider, save the preset, and then see what it was) is above the max the in-game slider allows ad thus, an INI edit which is technically bannable. I say technically, because even though they're against the rules, almost nothing is done about them unless someone's a **** and reports it for whatever reason.

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver

truekossy wrote: »

I say technically, because even though they're against the rules, almost nothing is done about them unless someone's a **** and reports it for whatever reason.

Who would report someone just because their **** are bigger than yours? Jealous women, that's who

Baeliia - Heavens Tear

TanisHawkeye - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Jealous women, that's who

Yeah cause that's all we women REAAAALLY want.. A pair we can hold your beer with.. the whole 6-pack even

>.>

sangodoc

prof wrote: »

this is just pwe's "opps" excuse, it has no effect on stability.

the glitchiest things i could imagine would be using female or male hairs on the wrong sex, but this doesn't so much glitch - it just doesn't fit the model properly.

Yeah, I've seen worse than that.

prof

i didn't know you could glitch tigerform, but i think that's hilarious lol

but, whose is hurting if he's ridiculously fat? his hitbox is the same size. he gains no advantage, other then being unique.

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Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

prof wrote: »

i didn't know you could glitch tigerform, but i think that's hilarious lol

but, whose is hurting if he's ridiculously fat? his hitbox is the same size. he gains no advantage, other then being unique.

If he is extremely big you can't even see his name since it would appear inside his body. Anyone who has tried to click on someone riding a boa can tell you it is difficult to click on something that looks much larger than the actual click box.

It's not as much an issue now with tab selection but sometimes you still have to click on the person when tab selection is not suitable.

I'm against extreme size edits and skin colors. Hair, eyes, and makeup should be free reign though.

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

Sangodoc wrote: »

Yeah, I've seen worse than that.

if they evened that out that woulda been cool wut hey.. even editors are too lazy to fix their own creations