Figure I'll get the public opinion lol

Fresh_Corpse - Sanctuary

Ok so while I'm raiseing funds for my archers rank 9 and levelign it to 101 I've considered stickign my bm back in a TW faction simply because TW is the one aspect of pwi I havent played till my eyes damn near bleed. Put simply I'm a touch undergeared for the current TW enviorment especialy as a blademaster so I'm mainly here for advise on a geni build tailored to fit this setup to alow decent survival in TW, assume an 81+ longevity if dex build and 81+ infliction if str I have the **** in bank to make a set of +3 gear for it.

Second I'd like to know exactly how much of a fubar it is to whip out claws on certain targets, I know that the main job of a BM in TW is to flat out run and stun (and die a lot) however on rank 9 and cleric targets that I want down fast it would seem like a good idea to drake bask flip to claws WS and drop them asap. Plus it would actually keep my chi up above the **** line allowing for moar HF bolt and roar on groups. (and my axe damage sucks balls) So ya how frowned upon is that lol.

Finnaly here the build claws are +12 2 garn gem deicides (dont look at me like that 24 hour sale made it sooo much cheaper than vanaing the damn things) purge pole and tt 90 zerk blade are me other alt weapons. bm currently has all demon skills minus highland and DS

http://pwcalc.com/1b7060d33d5dfe4b

Aside from the cube necky I only really plan to improve gear I can account stash to my archer/sin (belt helm LA and rings) So yes I do know that going full heavy with g 15/16 axes would be prefered but It aint gonna happen. (Ran the calc swaping in tt 99 arms HR boots and 4th map belt, I gain a whole 500 hp and less than 200 phys def mag marrowed sooo not worth the 100 or so mill the swap would require)

For dex geni I was considering

WS 10
ToP 5 or 10
Badge 10
CE 1
Will surge 10
AD 10
whirlwind 1

STR geni

OI 10
Mire 10
ToP 5
fortify 1
whirlwind 1
lawbreaker 10
AD 10

Vit/Mag

Faith
reflective aura 10
ToP 10
CE or chi siphon (w/e fits affinity) 1
holy path
wind sheild 10
whirlwind 1

TheDan - Sanctuary

I have a 91 Dex genie with for TW

Wind Shield 10
Heart of Steel 10
Whirlwind 1
Fortify 1
Holy Path 10
Badge of Courage 10
Absolute Domain 10
Cloud Eruption 1

But if you have an 81LP genie you could go without heart of steel and if you're looking more on the DD side you could also go with Extreme Poison instead of one of the above.

Not a big fan of will surge cause it costs so much energy. Fortify is where it's at cause you can IG right away after and blue sprint, instead of wasting red sprint.

In PK where I'm DDing I use a STR genie

Cloud Eruption 1
Absolute Domain 10
Occult Ice 10
Whirlwind 1
Holy Path 10
Fortify 1
Tangling Mire 10

Not a big fan of True Emptiness as you need a target in order to cast the shield, and can't cast while stunned either.

Also not a big fan of the Vit Faith genie cause I'm demon and you can't really use Cloud Erupt with Faith unless you have a 105 genie, and I don't lol.

It's not a hassle to switch out to fists quick to kill a single target cleric/veno when there's less people around, but if you're on Offense in enemy base you may have less time to react and you'll want to stick to AoE spamming and Roar w/e you can and hope you hit someone at low HP while your support is barraging or w/e inside. Also to protect cleric in squad, and DD, the aoe spam of fissure helps slow people down for kiting on your side.

Fresh_Corpse - Sanctuary

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

I have a 91 Dex genie with for TW

Wind Shield 10
Heart of Steel 10
Whirlwind 1
Fortify 1
Holy Path 10
Badge of Courage 10
Absolute Domain 10
Cloud Eruption 1

But if you have an 81LP genie you could go without heart of steel and if you're looking more on the DD side you could also go with Extreme Poison instead of one of the above.

Not a big fan of will surge cause it costs so much energy. Fortify is where it's at cause you can IG right away after and blue sprint, instead of wasting red sprint.

In PK where I'm DDing I use a STR genie

Cloud Eruption 1
Absolute Domain 10
Occult Ice 10
Whirlwind 1
Holy Path 10
Fortify 1
Tangling Mire 10

Not a big fan of True Emptiness as you need a target in order to cast the shield, and can't cast while stunned either.

Also not a big fan of the Vit Faith genie cause I'm demon and you can't really use Cloud Erupt with Faith unless you have a 105 genie, and I don't lol.

It's not a hassle to switch out to fists quick to kill a single target cleric/veno when there's less people around, but if you're on Offense in enemy base you may have less time to react and you'll want to stick to AoE spamming and Roar w/e you can and hope you hit someone at low HP while your support is barraging or w/e inside. Also to protect cleric in squad, and DD, the aoe spam of fissure helps slow people down for kiting on your side.

I mainly like the idea of faith as a "ffff ruuuuush" inside base skill, dont know why I'm posting on the archer as the claws alone make who this is reeeeaaaally obvious pretty sure they're the only +12 deicides on sanc. (that and my previous posts lol)

TE is just an amazing 1v1 survival skill for me, Its such a wonderfull "oh hell" button vs arcanes and archers but i would never consider it for TW as mag def charms serve the same purpose and lets face it theres no real way to tell when a mage is gonna ulti from 30 meters off.

Heart of steel seems like and odd choice though wanna sell me the reasons here? Clerics dont really hit hard enough to be a threat unless 3 sparked and they're mainly support and phys hits from archers concern me far more than metal as I'll be mag marrowed 24/7 with only 10k phys def cleric buffed (though demon bell can offset that a bit if I hit it before I rush)

Okeano - Harshlands

I can never imagine doing TW with a full DEX genie. HP and CE doesn't charge up fast enough for me even with 100 MAG. I suppose it might be different with better gears later on, but with 15k buffed HP and 14k m def, if I run in to stun at normal speed, I'd drop before I even reach the group.

Fresh_Corpse - Sanctuary wrote: »

TE is just an amazing 1v1 survival skill for me, Its such a wonderfull "oh hell" button vs arcanes and archers but i would never consider it for TW as mag def charms serve the same purpose and lets face it theres no real way to tell when a mage is gonna ulti from 30 meters off.

I'd fit TE in there if you have the room. You can always use it after you have used other skills like ToP, Domain or Reflective Aura. It's a free shield after using my other genie skills trying to stay alive when I'm stuck either by the freezing tower or Archer/Cleric's Freez, I'll take it. When I get caught in a stun or other disable, (insert surival skill), Tab, TE, leap, leap have been the difference between dead and tick for me on countless time.

I don't really understand Heart of Steel either. It's great for opening world PK against sleep, spark, one shot, and all, but I don't see its use in TW. I'd be more worried about hits from Mages and Psy that I don't see it worth its energy cost.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Claws are nice in TW for two things, mostly. Getting a veno's pet off you while you tank the veno's attacks, and killing clerics.

When I do the IG+stun and run I either leap straight back after, or go straight for the clerics. RotP is a pretty noticeable TW skill and as soon I hit it I see seals flying at me from every direction. If I don't end up slept I can normally take down or chase off a cleric or 3. That makes killing whatever I stunned much easier and claws are the best tool for "sit, stay, dead cleric."

I'd aim for a somewhat magic heavy genie rather than thinking dex/str based. Getting about 1.5 sparks quickly is a must and apos get expensive, plus chi apos are nice but apo cd is better saved for IGs. So magic points for spamming CE which takes some pressure off the skill Fortify if you can just Bodhi instead. Then you have a large option of your own skills you can use that eat chi (RoTP, HF, Bolt, Bodhi...)

Windshield might help... but you'd still be pretty squishy. I'd consider adding it to even a str based genie for the skills 8 seconds of 15% reduction.

Cloud eruption (str based)
HP
Fortify (dex based)
AD
Occult Ice (str based)
ToP (str/dex based)
Windshield (dex based)
And anyone tried Blazing Shield (str based) for the sleep/silence and immune to movement debuffs yet?

Fortify really isn't a defensive move in tw more than running using right before an IG and you only need the base 3 seconds for that, plus it has a good chance to remove your magic defenses if you use it without an IG and that can get you killed so a shorter time may be better. Between the mag and vit points you'll eat up you'd probably not have more than 50 dex or strength either way so Windshield with 5 dex still gives evasion + 15% damage reduction. Everything else is str based, although kind of a fubar mixture of skills.

Okeano - Harshlands

Aren't their Clerics in the air? Why are you wasting time chasing Clerics?

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Aren't their Clerics in the air? Why are you wasting time chasing Clerics?

Cata kill squads are kind of rough when three clerics are healing the same invoked barb. And oddly enough, most clerics aren't in the air, lol.

TheDan - Sanctuary

With my affinity set up, I can't get Oxygen bubble even if I wanted unless I made my genie 104, I don't have the spirit leftover for that haha. My genie is 103 for now.

I don't have that much of an issue with Holy Path in TW cause I use my flyer to get to where I need to be, and save my sprints for rushing. Totems / Catapults are nice for punching for quick chi, so Cloud on a dex genie usually suffices.

Faith is a real nice skill, but unless you got a 105 genie I don't think it's worth it to give up Cloud and AD.

But I only listed Heart of Steel because I have a 96LP and had an extra filler spot. If I was limited to an 81 LP genie, no, I wouldn't recommend it. It's a lower energy cost skill for a 100 dex genie, (60 ish energy). But if you have the extra slot, I prefer it over Oxygen Bubble and Tree of Protection on a dex genie because everyone and their mother is a R9 archer on Sanc. There's probably 5x more R9 archers than any other class here, not to mention their high *** crit rates and unpredictable purge bow proc'ing hurts pretty bad. I get murdered more by Archers because of how many anti-stun skills they can use at once, you literally can't do much to lock em.

But yeah, pretty much it's just a semi-decent filler spot skill that I feel is energy efficient compared to ToP on a dex genie, as well as being kinda useful when it comes to the unexpected purge and ****. I usually just tank the Wiz/Psy ultis with my 20K HP and 35 def level, but when I'm purged it's pretty much over lol.