Question: At same cost, which cape Wing Trophy or Cloudcharger?

Draemon - Heavens Tear
Draemon - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
edited September 2011 in Wizard
I searched around but only found some dated topics of when Cloudcharger cost 90-100m.

With current prices, assuming you can get a Cloudcharger or a p.def WT (4 socketed) for the same cost, which cape would you suggest? I think the WT cape will come out with 2 sockets so I added the cost for 2600 socket stones to it.

Thanks in advance.

edit: WT could also be left as is and save the cost of the sockets.
I plan to put immaculate citrines or immaculate garnets in the sockets.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    It's more personal preference than anything else.. they are really close. If you are only going to shard immac, I wouldn't even consider 4 socketing the WT. I'd probably go with cloud myself, just more hp.. more pdef.. and that auto 4 socket will be nice when you get to end game shards. Plus I like leveling chars on my acct, having a lvl 45 char being able to use an end game cape is awesome.
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  • Draemon - Heavens Tear
    Draemon - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Thanks for your reply.
    I'll go for the Cloudcharger so I can share it among my other characters when they reach 45. I play on a PvE server with no intentions to PvP, so the extra stats into magic from the WT wouldn't be a deal breaker.
  • Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    It's more personal preference than anything else.. they are really close. If you are only going to shard immac, I wouldn't even consider 4 socketing the WT. I'd probably go with cloud myself, just more hp.. more pdef.. and that auto 4 socket will be nice when you get to end game shards. Plus I like leveling chars on my acct, having a lvl 45 char being able to use an end game cape is awesome.

    This ^
    As usual Adroit is right...
  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Having just compared the two extensively I'd like to say that Cloudcharger is definitely better, but (at least on my server) they are not very close in price. I acquired my Pink Wing Trophy for 31mil (It normally is around 35mil) and my brother got his Cloudcharger for about 57mil (It goes for 60). I think that half the price + the dex/str/mag adds is pretty nice, and it really only has a marginally lower p def on it. Anyways, its something to consider.
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  • Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Having just compared the two extensively I'd like to say that Cloudcharger is definitely better, but (at least on my server) they are not very close in price. I acquired my Pink Wing Trophy for 31mil (It normally is around 35mil) and my brother got his Cloudcharger for about 57mil (It goes for 60). I think that half the price + the dex/str/mag adds is pretty nice, and it really only has a marginally lower p def on it. Anyways, its something to consider.

    He is a wizard.. the only useful part of the WTLG for him will be the -6 chann and the + mag... on the other hand the benefits on phys def from the Cloudcharger are b:dirty
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    do fb99 trophy mode, get a CHEAP wing trophy :)))
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  • Vindis - Dreamweaver
    Vindis - Dreamweaver Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    He is a wizard.. the only useful part of the WTLG for him will be the -6 chann and the + mag... on the other hand the benefits on phys def from the Cloudcharger are b:dirty

    I was referring to Glorious Robe: Torment from the Pink Wing Trophy. It is much different from the LG trophy that provides -chan or -int. And dex should help somewhat because, correct me if I am wrong the TT99 Gold AA boots have +9 dex on them. 5 base+9+6~7 dex = 20~21 dex. 20 dex = 1 % crit. The additional strength could be statted out of your character into magic as well.

    436 is indeed less than 500, but I'm not sure if 64 more p def and 60 hp (at +5 refines) is worth an additional 30 mil. (I have a similar argument in favor of Necklace of Giant Strength vs. Cube neck).
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  • Fresh_Corpse - Sanctuary
    Fresh_Corpse - Sanctuary Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I was referring to Glorious Robe: Torment from the Pink Wing Trophy. It is much different from the LG trophy that provides -chan or -int. And dex should help somewhat because, correct me if I am wrong the TT99 Gold AA boots have +9 dex on them. 5 base+9+6~7 dex = 20~21 dex. 20 dex = 1 % crit. The additional strength could be statted out of your character into magic as well.

    436 is indeed less than 500, but I'm not sure if 64 more p def and 60 hp (at +5 refines) is worth an additional 30 mil. (I have a similar argument in favor of Necklace of Giant Strength vs. Cube neck).

    At +10 thers a pretty noticeable differance in hp per refine.

    IJS who plays a wizzie at anything less than +7?
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    At +10 thers a pretty noticeable differance in hp per refine.

    IJS who plays a wizzie at anything less than +7?
    Yea but you can restat points from vit, dex, strength, so you have another at least +18 points to magic. It very nice boost.
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I searched around but only found some dated topics of when Cloudcharger cost 90-100m.

    With current prices, assuming you can get a Cloudcharger or a p.def WT (4 socketed) for the same cost, which cape would you suggest? I think the WT cape will come out with 2 sockets so I added the cost for 2600 socket stones to it.

    Thanks in advance.

    edit: WT could also be left as is and save the cost of the sockets.
    I plan to put immaculate citrines or immaculate garnets in the sockets.
    Cloudcharger costs 65-70m on HT (I see some going at 63m), not even close to 90-100m. You must have seen one single catshop seller who doesn't know how much it costs and thought that was the actual price.

    If you have the option to buy both currently I would suggest the Cloudcharger for the vit, def, and 4 sock. I use the pink WT pdef robe on my cleric/mystic/psy account, however, I almost always see these come out 2 socket. It's half the cost of a Cloudcharger and has nice stats with +all attributes, but lower grade/less refine, and in all likelihood less sockets. 432 pdef vs 500 to me is rather negligible difference. To me it comes down to if you think the other attributes are worth the fewer sockets and less refine/hp. I only stuck with my WT pdef cape because I had it for over 2 yrs.
  • HardToThink - Lost City
    HardToThink - Lost City Posts: 967 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I bought cloudchargers for the 0.2 speed b:dirty Nascar wizzy
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  • Draemon - Heavens Tear
    Draemon - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Thanks all.

    In terms of the pricing, sorry if i caused confusion. The capes are different in cost, the Cloudcharger being roughly twice the cost of the WT. I meant that they would be the same cost with 4 sockets (if you got 2 socket and had to add 2; and the WT would be half the cost if it came out 4 sockets).

    I have seen the capes obtainable at these prices on HT (more/less):
    WT 25mil + 25mil (sockets) = 50mil
    Cloudcharger 50mil

    Also the fb99 trophy mode cape sounds good, I'll go for one sometime.
  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    IJS who plays a wizzie at anything less than +7?

    lots of people b:surrender

    I just got to +7 for the first time with the ridiculously cheap orb sale that just ended.

    As for choice of capes, cloudcharger wins for all the reasons that have already been stated.
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  • Snoozer - Lost City
    Snoozer - Lost City Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If you're willing to restat the +str and +mag on the Wing Trophy cape into vit, the Wing Trophy may actually be BETTER, subject to refines. At +0 and restated the Wing Trophy gives over 120 more hp, and like 60 less pdef. The more you refine it the more the Cloudcharger will close the gap. At +12 with restated str and mag they give almost the same HP:

    +12 Cloudcharger
    http://www.pwcalc.com/5c6b9ac725a8094f

    +12 Glorious: Torment (the pdef one)
    http://www.pwcalc.com/ea12e672ef5d5d0e
  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If you're willing to restat the +str and +mag on the Wing Trophy cape into vit, the Wing Trophy may actually be BETTER, subject to refines. At +0 and restated the Wing Trophy gives over 120 more hp, and like 60 less pdef. The more you refine it the more the Cloudcharger will close the gap. At +12 with restated str and mag they give almost the same HP:

    +12 Cloudcharger
    http://www.pwcalc.com/5c6b9ac725a8094f

    +12 Glorious: Torment (the pdef one)
    http://www.pwcalc.com/ea12e672ef5d5d0e

    HP is not all.

    Reduce Physical Damage Taken +3%.

    and +.2m/s can save your butt too
  • Draemon - Heavens Tear
    Draemon - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If you're willing to restat the +str and +mag on the Wing Trophy cape into vit, the Wing Trophy may actually be BETTER, subject to refines. At +0 and restated the Wing Trophy gives over 120 more hp, and like 60 less pdef. The more you refine it the more the Cloudcharger will close the gap. At +12 with restated str and mag they give almost the same HP:

    +12 Cloudcharger
    http://www.pwcalc.com/5c6b9ac725a8094f

    +12 Glorious: Torment (the pdef one)
    http://www.pwcalc.com/ea12e672ef5d5d0e

    You've all been really helpful.
    Ty snooze for the comparison of the two and as Adroit stated in the first reply to this post, it's a matter of personal preference.
    I got a Cloudcharger today :)

    With your opinions, I have summed it up like this, it's personal preference:
    Depending on what you're willing to spend on your cape when choosing one of these two, if you're going for defence and HP and plan to +10-12 it, go for the Cloudcharger. With it's gaurenteed 4 sockets and better refinement level, it'll yield the same/more HP and give a few extra bonus stats over the WT (putting all the stats into vit). It's also lvl 45 so you can use it on all your low level characters.

    If you're going for attack power, you should consider the WT as it will give you an extra 18-21 points to put in magic at the cost of some HP, 60 p.def, .2 speed, and 3% p.dmg recuction.
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