Frost is more glitched from being fixed O.~

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  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    1. We reported it and asked for a fix as soon as it was known to us. It took time to get it modified, and though it all does seem very simple to fix, it actually is not.

    2. The only option we had for this would have been to shut down the entire fc instance, which we were not willing to do, because it would have meant removing one of the most popular instances for an extended length of time.

    3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.

    You mean popular by those who want to exploit the game then jump to SP so they can use the company promoted harassment? You seem to be in a sinking ship there bud. I hope you can make it out before it goes under.
  • aclucius318
    aclucius318 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Frankie, how many raises have you been given in the past three years? If you aren't at least making twice what you made when you started, assuming you were being paid well, you are being underpaid for all the **** you have to take from everyone on these forums.
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    1. We reported it and asked for a fix as soon as it was known to us. It took time to get it modified, and though it all does seem very simple to fix, it actually is not.

    2. The only option we had for this would have been to shut down the entire fc instance, which we were not willing to do, because it would have meant removing one of the most popular instances for an extended length of time.

    3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.

    1. What was the simple fix? I heard they decreased the exp gained from goons, yet people are still exploiting it anyway getting mass exp, so was it actually reduced?

    2. The other option would of been to get some active GM's in game, why don't we have active GM's any more like we used to? it's obvious who the exploiters have been, an easy method could of been to check the levelling ranks 1 week, then check them every few days or so, then jump in game, check them players every hour or so to see what there doing, as soon as you see them in FC glitching the goons, Boom, ban hammer?

    3. Could we have any more info on how you plan to "work" on it? are you going to back check the level ranks pre FC glitch and compare it now to most the 105's, that obviously exploited the glitch without a doubt, including about 70% of the level 103 and 104s on the server? though the obvious would just be to focus the 105s, either way, if PWE doesn't want to be seen as a push over, a company in which does nothing to bug/glitch exploiters, then I'm all ears on what's happening.
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  • BuyMeDinner - Lost City
    BuyMeDinner - Lost City Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.

    Are you serious? I can't tell. In a previous post you said something like just because some people are getting away with it doesn't make it less illegal. The way you phrased it would imply that you did not plan on doing anything to the people who have so far gotten away with it.

    So now what...are you going to 3 day ban the 105s? Good job. Maybe I should glitch to 105 in a week and admit to it so I get a 3 day ban too. Why? Because even with the ban I save probably more than 2-3 years of leveling up. 3 day banning everyone who exploited is definitely reasonable in my opinion.
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
    3. Could we have any more info on how you plan to "work" on it? are you going to back check the level ranks pre FC glitch and compare it now to most the 105's, that obviously exploited the glitch without a doubt, including about 70% of the level 103 and 104s on the server? though the obvious would just be to focus the 105s, either way, if PWE doesn't want to be seen as a push over, a company in which does nothing to bug/glitch exploiters, then I'm all ears on what's happening.

    Someone should put PWE in touch with Square Enix. Those people know what a ban hammer is and they are not afraid to use it.
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  • __Kikyo__ - Lost City
    __Kikyo__ - Lost City Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Make everyone 101 again, and close down frost.You now brought back world pvp!Just like the old days.
  • Nniotora - Lost City
    Nniotora - Lost City Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    __Kikyo__ - Lost City wrote: »
    Make everyone 101 again, and close down frost.You now brought back world pvp!Just like the old days.

    lies kikzioBR they would need to remove rank9 and +5 max to get real world pvp back you know that
    100% F2P legit 105 since starting this game. Full rank9 jaded +12 seeker. .tinyurl.com/nocashshopHaters gona hate cuz they cant play a game
  • Zenzell - Dreamweaver
    Zenzell - Dreamweaver Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.

    Sort of like how you were "working on" the SP bug and ended up calling it a "feature"?
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  • BaldwinBoy - Dreamweaver
    BaldwinBoy - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Heaven forbid you shut down FC for a month and made people aware there is life outside of snowy village!
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    1. We reported it and asked for a fix as soon as it was known to us. It took time to get it modified, and though it all does seem very simple to fix, it actually is not.

    2. The only option we had for this would have been to shut down the entire fc instance, which we were not willing to do, because it would have meant removing one of the most popular instances for an extended length of time.

    3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.

    I'm curious to see how it's going to all playout. :P
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    1. We reported it and asked for a fix as soon as it was known to us. It took time to get it modified, and though it all does seem very simple to fix, it actually is not.

    2. The only option we had for this would have been to shut down the entire fc instance, which we were not willing to do, because it would have meant removing one of the most popular instances for an extended length of time.

    3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.

    Thanks for the answers.

    But FC was the most popular instance because of the glitch, no? b:chuckle

    And I'm beginning to like the new you. Your answers are much more clear and frank than before. Please stay like that b:thanks
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  • rainbowyoshii
    rainbowyoshii Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Thanks for the answers.

    But FC was the most popular instance because of the glitch, no? b:chuckle

    And I'm beginning to like the new you. Your answers are much more clear and frank than before. Please stay like that b:thanks

    it was popular before the glitch because of plvls from sins and the high ammount of exp it gave. goon glitching just made a already popular instance more popular. but even without the glitch that instance is the main way to get to 100 for most ppl and an extremly popular method of plvling.

    its also the main way for sins to get to 105 WITHOUT glitching. thats how kita (the very first player to reach 105) got to 105. soloing FC as a sin to get exp is the best method of leveling.

    offering 800k(heads to end)-1.2 mill (full run) for FC runs per person is also a extremly good income for sins or 5.0 players in general.
  • SocialDesire - Archosaur
    SocialDesire - Archosaur Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    First I'd like to say to frankie, it may have been a good idea to just kill FC til this was fixed. I mean yes, I like running my alts through heads once in a great while to boost them to a higher level, but i wouldn't of complained if you had taken it down to fix this glitch.

    For those of you who don't know what's been going on with this glitch, I'm linking an article. You can Click Here for that article which goes into some detail about the glitch but doesn't get specific. So no worries from you Gms about me letting the secret out.

    Third and finally. I'd like to say this. PWE is not limited to the games you see on this site. They run many other games that run perfectly fine; I'd like to site Star Trek Online for this example which by the way is about to go F2P. There's not a doubt in my mind that it's a great game and everyone seems to be excited that its going free to play. I hear very little to nothing about glitches.

    Another game that the devs are working hard on is Rusty Hearts, which while reminescent of a ps3 game, it's not that bad. I was in the closed beta, and it's going open beta.

    Again, you have to realize how many lines of code it took for them to write Jail FC, and the mob rates. They work with several charts to decide what a monster would give as XP. If there is a tiny flaw or two in the millions of lines of coding that it took to write up one monster then they have to find, and fix it. I don't know about the rest of you out there, but after looking at a few thousand lines of code, my eyes get tired, so please lay off the poor devs.
  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    uh what? i was in FF last night, 2 peopel dc'ed and we werent' booted..... You sure the squad leaders didnt' just dismiss the squad? THAT would boot everyone.. .lol
  • Omea - Lost City
    Omea - Lost City Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Chadric - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    uh what? i was in FF last night, 2 peopel dc'ed and we werent' booted..... You sure the squad leaders didnt' just dismiss the squad? THAT would boot everyone.. .lol

    That doesn't dismiss the squad, only the leader leaves and passes lead to the second joiner if you press dismiss.
    How come, if someone asks a question in a forum, at least 13/20 posts answers the question in the same exact way, 5/20 word the exact same answer differently and 2/20 say something completely unrelated to both life and death?
  • OontzOontz - Dreamweaver
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    rainbowyoshii wrote: »
    its also the main way for sins to get to 105 WITHOUT glitching. thats how kita (the very first player to reach 105) got to 105. soloing FC as a sin to get exp is the best method of leveling.

    What are the chances he didn't do glitch himself?
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    OontzOontz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What are the chances he didn't do glitch himself?

    If Kita had glitched it, it wouldn't have taken a couple of months for 104->105


    Oh and gl glitching it alone. ijs
  • HellWariorB - Raging Tide
    HellWariorB - Raging Tide Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    u get booted out if there are 2 ppl in squad and the leader of the squad get DC then the remaining player will be booted out in 60 sec
  • Cytte - Harshlands
    Cytte - Harshlands Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    1. We reported it and asked for a fix as soon as it was known to us. It took time to get it modified, and though it all does seem very simple to fix, it actually is not.

    2. The only option we had for this would have been to shut down the entire fc instance, which we were not willing to do, because it would have meant removing one of the most popular instances for an extended length of time.

    3. For the most part they have not yet been punished, but we're working on that now.

    Simple to fix the goon barrage, no. Simple to fix the powerlvling from goons, yes. The devs lowered the xp gain from them right? So they can lower it more, so its not profitable.

    TBH I wouldn't mind that, and I don't think a lot of people would. The closing of fc would bring back grinding, squad dynamic, pvp for grind/zhen spots...people who can better play their class.
    Or y'know more money spent on hypers for zhenning >.>

    May I ask why not and how?
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