Is PWI worth playing?

Decus - Dreamweaver

Glaciaire - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thanks for your input

My pleasure. b:thanks

I feel obligated to mention that you should ignore any post from tweakz or thumbs. You'll understand eventually as it'll get pretty clear to you.

CheetahWoods - Raging Tide

heh, im used to fumbling around +google is my friend = get it sorted.

best free to play game i ever played.

character customization is awesome.
there is some awesome scenery on the map
i laughed at the tranquilla quest and some of the others. there is some humor.
they throw massive curveballs that change everything at you just like real life does. keeps you on your toes. very exciting.

if you want to really dominate, you have to spend a lot of money. this also buys you a free pass to abuse other players to your heart's content with, at most, a symbolic slap on the wrist.


what more could you want?

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear

well, I will seem biased because Perfect World was my first MMO, but I still really like this game. Honestly, I don't know that I'd recommend it to a beginner especially if they haven't played an MMORPG before. But you seem well aquainted with them so that will make it easier on you.

I started out here because a good friend I knew on an art site I'm on recommend it, and if it hadn't been for her and her friends' help, I don't know that I'd have ever really grasped this game. It honestly is very confusing for a beginner. I started out as a venomancer because I liked the cute animal ears/tail and the fact you could have pets. City of the Lost is a lot easier to navigate, since it's all quite an open space. The towns are fairly easy to get to on foot (since you start out without a flyer of course). After getting my veno to her 30s, I tried the cleric class and fell in love with it for very much the same reasons you like support classes. At that point because of my experience as the veno, I knew the way quests worked and what was located where. Plume is a lot more confusing and ... well, the layout is strange. So I don't blame you for feeling a little lost about it. I think your looking up guides is the best thing.

Although not everything is layed out as straightforward as it should be, it's not impossible to get used to the way the game works. Once you get it down it becomes second nature.

The main reason I personally wouldn't recommend the game to anyone new now,is mostly because the community has seemed to change quite a lot from when I first began back in 2008. The general mindset is to level as quickly as possible to 100+ for God knows what end-game content (which is severely lacking unless you roll a Blademaster or Assassin). Even the cleric class isn't needed quite as much near the end. But I guess that ultimately depends on what you plan to do. If you're into PVP, that could be a good thing to consider. TW factions are still pretty hardcore. I don't have a lot of experience on PvP servers, but I'm sure there's still that dynamic. The problem I have is the very over powered gear that is available these days, making fights quite uneven. Used to be that if you were good, you could do quite well despite gear differences. But the Rank 9 gear that is out now seems pretty much fool proof, and way too powerful. But that's my opinion.

Ultimately the choice will be yours of course. I do recommend sticking it out a bit longer, at least get to 40 like others have said, and if you're still bored by then, I wouldn't blame you for leaving. PWI is definitely not a game for everyone. I only stay here because it's where I "grew up" in the world of MMOs, I'm most familiar with it. I've tried other games like G-W for instance, but I always come back here. There's still a lot of good in the community and a lot of it really has to do with finding the right faction. It took me forever to find my best fit and when I finally did I couldn't be happier. Not everything in the game is about greed as people seem to make it out to be on here. There are still many team players out there ready and willing to help eachother, and that's a lot of the reason I stay also.

/wall of text lol. sorry, I ramble a lot.

Also if you ever need any help or pointers and I'm online, don't hesitate to message me! If I'm not on this toon I'm usually on my Assassin, EIlvira.

Wavetide - Archosaur

you know ur not the only one who thought that in the beginning. i to used to be new at this game but as i progressed thru the lvls it became more and more clear. i've only played this game for six months and am already lvl 54. so far the game has been pretty well worth it. if u ask me i think u shud just keep playing after a while u'll get used to everything and then once u start to understand then u'll start having more and more fun. so trust me when i say this:PWI IS TOTALLY WORTH LVLING UP TO. and heres a shout out to my fac ANARCHY69 FOREVER WOOHOO!!!!

ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver

To you this is not new player friendly? Go try FF14 and tell me what the **** that would be classified as.

Picexplorer - Heavens Tear

Glaciaire - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hi all, just a few questions to ask. I would appreciate any feedback, if at all.

My general concern when I first started playing PW today was: It is not beginner friendly. The graphics, although clear, were hard to get used to compared to other MMORPGs. The "help guide" offered some advice and help, but thoroughly confused me even though I tried to understand what it was trying to say.

The quests have too many colours - gold, silver, green (just the ones I've come across in my few levels). The text in the quests are also too... I don't know... I had to squint to look at the greyish words..

The map is unhelpful and confusing as well. The specks of dots showing the monsters did little to tell me where to hunt a particular monster, even though I had the tracker. The dense amount of yellow dots of NPCs were too closely packed for me to even figure out where to find my master to learn skills.

To do the apothecary quest, I had to buy a pick-axe. The quest-giver did not tell me where to find one, nor give me a hint as to how to get it, only telling me that I have to have a pick-axe before I can start hunting for herbs. So my hunt for a particular yellow dot begins. The only problem? Who sells the pick-axe? My first thought was to try the Blacksmith, because the Tailor and Seamstress would seem appropriate, and a Merchant, well, sells jewels and gems and stuff, right? Wrong! I had to run in circles to get to the Blacksmith, to realise he did not sell what I wanted. In the end, I had to google to find where to get that pesky pick-axe.

I am only level 6 and if I have to start surfing the forums for every quest I take on in PWI, then I'd like to ask, is it worth the effort to stay in PWI?

I have played quite a few MMORPGs and all of them make the effort to help beginners like us. In most of the games I played, I usually just surf the forums for builds on the class I am going for. For this game, I had to come to the forums to read a guide on Genies, where to buy a pick-axe, where to learn my skills, how to find an NPC in the midst of all those yellow dots.

I'm not trying to say PWI is lousy. All I wanna know is, does the gameplay in the later levels makes all this hassle worth it in the long run?

Side note, another thing I noticed is the lack of players in the town. I'm a cleric and I would like to be in a game where finding parties or squads are relatively easy. Maybe it's just because I am in a lower level village? Can someone confirm this for me please?

Well, ill answer the bolded one for you, PWE is (i think) tending to be mnc-kinda company and have lots of games coming out from its shelves lately. They did and do try to attract more new customers but you cannot expect to be same for all games. For eg: pwe has a new game called Forskaen World jsut came out like 6months before. and they are sthrengthning their palyer base their coz its not profitable and wise to milk a dying cow. yes pwi is a dying game but not dead yet....there are still lot more people still playing daily and so i think its still worth to play for more 2 years to come atleast.
As for support staff, ill say everytime i read on forums abt the support staff being mean adn lazy and stuff. but i actually came to know abt thier work ethics with my personal experience.
i npced my diecides accidently while repairing it coz of graphical lag, so my lead told me to sent a ticket asap and so i did.i asked a few older(3yrs+) members about it and some said they ull get it back while most said 'sad, pwi wont give it back' and stuff .five days passed(i got myself a new weapon) and w00t, i got a mail from staff tht they have found my case genuine and they will repay me with mats during next maintenance.

so, u see, u cannot jsut blame on whole team if just one/two is rotten egg

Glaciaire - Heavens Tear

@RosangeIa - I understand completely what you meant by growing up in an MMO, that's exactly how I felt in the very first game I played. Would you mind if I PM you later, if you're free? Or if you have any low level chars you'd like to squad with, I'm always a happy cleric (albeit low level) willing to help.

@Decus - Noted, thanks xD

@ImNotFiveAps - Nope, never tried FF and never liked it though..

@Picexplorer - Understand where you're coming from... I'll stay awhile to see how it turns out

Sir_Puma - Raging Tide

Glaciaire - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I love supporting classes, and I'm one of the top few full-supporters in the previous game I played (although the gameplay was vastly different).

I'd definitely try levelling up to 30-40+ and find a reliable squad to do quests with and maybe try out the dreaded SP.

Thanks for your input

First off, welcome to PWI.

Do not get overwhelmed by negative reviews. As you saw , some said " I invested so much , I don't want to leave". That's their problem, not yours to rely on.

I've been playing since March 2010 and I do start to "slowly" get bored. But look, I play a freaking 14 hours a day, multiply that by close 500 (let's round it), that's 7 000 hours the game was fun to me and I still get "some" fun out of it. Any game, any console, anywhere, would get boring a bit more after so many hours passed on it, it's normal.

Then , there's those, who don't want/have time to play and shell out 1000$ to get best stuff right off and also get bored right off.

Take your time to explore the game. As others said, scenary is nice, music is "ok" in some parts, quests can get repetitive, but what other MMO doesnt' repeat at least a "kill "x" number of mobs" more then 200 times before max level.

People also said, make a BM. It's true that at higher levels, they are pretty much wanted (Hey look at my avatr, i'm one), at lower level though, you would probably like a cleric to team with for those magic mobs that will hurt you bad. If you stay on your cleric, you will eventually encounter physical mobs that will hurt, thus, try to find a "tank class" to quest with. get my drift ?

As for fun factor by level, I will give you a quick overview :

1-20 : learning curve, where is what, what does what, how to do this and that, goes ok..

20-30 : The part i actually liked the least, don't get discouraged here. Although if u stick on you cleric, since u can fly right off, you will save A LOT of walking.

30-40 : New area north of arch, different mobs, daily quests starts, new nice skills after you have completed your cultivation quest at lvl 29, you see more people, etc.. The game starts to pick up indeed around here.

40-100: If you have friends, or a good faction by now, there's a risk of addiction. Bounty hunter quests, dailies, new areas, different mobs, tideborn quests, you probably won't even see time pass if you have at least a few people to talk to/quest with.

100-105 : Some high level dungeons, with people asking high requirements in squads, some people here fall a lot in the category "Must get here fast, to make money fast, to do all faster, to make money faster" Some fall in the category "Good, I finally reached here, now let's see who I can help and how I can perfect myself"

Just take it easy and don't listen to negative reviews or people that will tell you "Go powerlevel up" take your time to learn ur class, no one wants a lvl 60+ cleric that doesn't know how to use purify (or even what it does), no one will like to see you use RB (a skill u learn a lot later on, stands for "red bubble") when it's 5 demon melee attackers in squad with you.

Just have fun.

Desdi - Sanctuary

I honestly love this game and I joined in October 2008. It was certainly a challenge to get to know how things work but I started it with a couple of friends and made a few more on the way which made my game experience fun. Some left, some disappeared but some of them are still here even after 3 years and we get to play together.

The game is designed to be played with parties (squads) and as you will find out yourself several quests require you to find a squad in order to complete it. When playing alone, you will, of course, eventually get bored of it. However, when you find a couple of people you can play with and/or a nice guild, everything changes. If you ever decide to make a character on Sanctuary, my guild would be very happy to have you as a member and help you (we are a family-type faction, PvE oriented). It really does feel like a second family to me. As for what you have heard for the server; those things aren't really very frequent in this game from what I know of. I find Sanctuary a rather good server from my experience and many players seem to be helpful. I have no experience with the other servers of course. And as a side note, from what I have seen, there has been little player harrasment concerning the now PK-enabled Secret Passage (I could be wrong but this is what I've experienced so far).

What I like about this game is that you can fly as much as you want. You can customize your character and make it unique (I never liked having a character that looks similar to 100000 others) and you can also buy fashion to your liking, later once it becomes affordable to you, to give your character further personality. The game appeals to both hardcore players and casual players or RP players. Some might want to focus on their character's appearance, fashion and do RPs with friends or socialise. Some focus on gear. Some focus on both aspects and in the end we all play the game. Thus, you can probably find players that share your preferences.

Quests aren't to bad when you do them for the first time, although after your first, second etc. alt character they do become boring. Dungeons is where most of the fun is. They are not too hard (except for a few dungeons but they are for high levels such as lvl95+) but they aren't "too easy" to make them boring. I still haven't gotten bored of the dungeons of this game, although I do want new ones.


I have to warm you that indeed the economy is bad now due to the gold prices that are set by the players and have sky rocketed lately. Those are affected by what kind of sales there are in the boutique. Prices of items have gone up but there are alternative ways of acquiring certain items/gear. A good guild would help you with that (either by helping you farm the gear or by guiding you about how and where to do things). There are a few bugs that haven't been fixed but this is perhaps due to the fact that the original development team was fired before the game's release and probably the current dev team has difficulties in finding out the codes the original game was written on.
Indeed the customer service isn't too good but personally I've been satisfied most of the time. I suppose it depends on cases. For example when my wedding banquet was glitched, my in-game husband and I didn't receive our 3rd (and final) price but after contacting the GMs via the ticket system, they gave us our final price in the next maintenance.

Give it a chance, give it some time and explore the game a little. It's too early to judge it yet
And again, if you ever decide to move to Sanctuary feel free to message me (or one of my alt characters; see my signature) or contact any other member of the Oddysey guild.

Glaciaire - Heavens Tear

Sir_Puma - Raging Tide wrote: »

First off, welcome to PWI.

Do not get overwhelmed by negative reviews. As you saw , some said " I invested so much , I don't want to leave". That's their problem, not yours to rely on.

I've been playing since March 2010 and I do start to "slowly" get bored. But look, I play a freaking 14 hours a day, multiply that by close 500 (let's round it), that's 7 000 hours the game was fun to me and I still get "some" fun out of it. Any game, any console, anywhere, would get boring a bit more after so many hours passed on it, it's normal.

Then , there's those, who don't want/have time to play and shell out 1000$ to get best stuff right off and also get bored right off.

Take your time to explore the game. As others said, scenary is nice, music is "ok" in some parts, quests can get repetitive, but what other MMO doesnt' repeat at least a "kill "x" number of mobs" more then 200 times before max level.

People also said, make a BM. It's true that at higher levels, they are pretty much wanted (Hey look at my avatr, i'm one), at lower level though, you would probably like a cleric to team with for those magic mobs that will hurt you bad. If you stay on your cleric, you will eventually encounter physical mobs that will hurt, thus, try to find a "tank class" to quest with. get my drift ?

Yeps, I got your drift. Barbs are the main tankers except when there's magical bosses; the rest are mostly DDs. Stay behind the tank! Heal the tank! Keep a lookout on the status bars of your squad!

I just need to experience them in the game for real, myself xD

As for fun factor by level, I will give you a quick overview :

1-20 : learning curve, where is what, what does what, how to do this and that, goes ok..

20-30 : The part i actually liked the least, don't get discouraged here. Although if u stick on you cleric, since u can fly right off, you will save A LOT of walking.

30-40 : New area north of arch, different mobs, daily quests starts, new nice skills after you have completed your cultivation quest at lvl 29, you see more people, etc.. The game starts to pick up indeed around here.

40-100: If you have friends, or a good faction by now, there's a risk of addiction. Bounty hunter quests, dailies, new areas, different mobs, tideborn quests, you probably won't even see time pass if you have at least a few people to talk to/quest with.

30-50+ Sounds really interesting, I'll give it a try. One question though, which server is more newbie friendly?

100-105 : Some high level dungeons, with people asking high requirements in squads, some people here fall a lot in the category "Must get here fast, to make money fast, to do all faster, to make money faster" Some fall in the category "Good, I finally reached here, now let's see who I can help and how I can perfect myself"

I'd like to be in the latter.

Just take it easy and don't listen to negative reviews or people that will tell you "Go powerlevel up" take your time to learn ur class, no one wants a lvl 60+ cleric that doesn't know how to use purify (or even what it does), no one will like to see you use RB (a skill u learn a lot later on, stands for "red bubble") when it's 5 demon melee attackers in squad with you.

Just have fun.

Thank you!

Decus - Dreamweaver

The older servers are more newbie friendly due to a larger population and more stable prices.

Specifically Sanctuary, Lost City, Heaven's Tear, Dreamweaver, and Harshlands (The final two being slightly newer than the previous three).

Of course, this begs the question of PvP vs PvE server, but I am sure you have decided that already or have a good idea for what you want to do and the atmosphere wherein to do it.

Glaciaire - Heavens Tear

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The older servers are more newbie friendly due to a larger population and more stable prices.

Specifically: Sanctuary, Lost City, Heaven's Tear, Dreamweaver, and Harshlands

Of course, this begs the question of PvP vs PvE server, but I am sure you have decided that already or have a good idea for what you want to do and the atmosphere wherein to do it.

Thanks! I'll stick to Heaven's Tear, then

Sir_Puma - Raging Tide

As of what server is better..Hmm..

I just really been on mine, and i'm not too fond of PvP, so I chose a PvE server. On a PvP one, everyone can start hunting you down as soon as you hit lvl 30 (Kill you while questing and such)

Although there is now a serious bug on PvE servers about a certain dungeon now allowing people to PK anyone coming in (and out of safe zone), on a PvE server , YOU decide when you will be able to kill people (get attacked) , a "Enter pk mode" switch (That you can also turn off after certain number of hours have passed)

They will be good people on all servers, and bad people on all as well. really depends who you hang out with

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear

Glaciaire - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Quick question: What's a BM? I'm still not used to the abbreviations...there's way too many of them here, even for a mmo.
Edit: Lol alright xD

I not sure if anyone answered this, but BM would be Blade Master Class.

By any chance, if you want in game help I would not mind if you add me as a friend and guide you around.

Decus - Dreamweaver

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I not sure if anyone answered this, but BM would be Blade Master Class.

By any chance, if you want in game help I would not mind if you add me as a friend and guide you around.

This has nothing to do with the topic, and for that I preemptively apologize, but I couldn't resist...

A quote by a composer is a fairly rare thing, especially a less "popular" one. Massive props to you! b:victory

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This has nothing to do with the topic, and for that I preemptively apologize, but I couldn't resist...

A quote by a composer is a fairly rare thing, especially a less "popular" one. Massive props to you! b:victory

Sorry Im fairly tired and dont know what Im doing, everything im reading just goes straight through me and my mind is wondering/doing whatever on its own.. and btw, idk what you just said/talking about b:surrender

Decus - Dreamweaver

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sorry Im fairly tired and dont know what Im doing, everything im reading just goes straight through me and my mind is wondering/doing whatever on its own.. and btw, idk what you just said/talking about b:surrender

Your sig quote is fairly rare as it's by a less "mainstream" composer, is all. I just really enjoyed that.

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Your sig quote is fairly rare as it's by a less "mainstream" composer, is all. I just really enjoyed that.

Oh, my sig in my sig area? Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils ... - Louis Hector Berlioz? Yeah, I love this quote because it true too lol. and Im kinda "old" fashioned anyway even though Im a generation Y. It was the way I was raised.. plus Im asian and my parents are old fashioned too in both asian and English way (My country was once colonised by England).

Edit: btw, it is said that "unlike his contemporaries, Berlioz' wasn't as easily accepted by the public. It might be said that his manner of instrumentation and orchestration was too advanced for that era." That would probably the reason why he was not so popular.

I would love to see is taking some techno dance and music from today and displaying back then b:chuckle would love to see their reaction. xD

Michael_Dark - Lost City

This game is no longer worth playing.

The player base is stagnant.

The game engine tech is nearly a decade old.

The game peaked in popularity and population in 09.

The last real new content was in 09, unless you consider areas with level 1-19 quests and new characters as new content.

The servers, this site and the game will be around for a long, long time. There will always be a small handful of major cash shoppers around that will easily pay for upkeep on servers with little traffic, so population and new unique players are of little concern.

Find something newer and less wallet dependent.

Darqueanisa - Raging Tide

No it's not worth paying for...not anymore in my opinion.

Do yourself a favor:

1. Uninstall pwi
2. Go outside
3. Enjoy the fresh air!!

I plan to do the sameb:pleased

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Darqueanisa - Raging Tide wrote: »

No it's not worth paying for...not anymore in my opinion.

Do yourself a favor:

1. Uninstall pwi
2. Go outside
3. Enjoy the fresh air!!

I plan to do the sameb:pleased

Wow, someone from RT that isn't absurdly stupid.

Cheers! b:pleased

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

Darqueanisa - Raging Tide wrote: »

2. Go outside
3. Enjoy the fresh air!!

I plan to do the sameb:pleased

The sun.... it's burning !! b:cry
There no fresh air here... b:sad

NecroKitty - Harshlands

I have taken breaks from the game and tried several others over the past 3 years. And here i am still playing PWI, so it obviously has some great qualities.

Starting a game when its brand new and all are starting at level 1 with you, to me, makes a game more fun. I'm not sure if now i would get into the game as much or not if i started now.

I believe you can have fun playing this game as long as you don't try to compete with those spending thousands of dallors on the game. At this point if your dont have a +10 or higher refined weapon and top notch VIT stones in your gear you are considered a second class citizen of Perfect World.

I spent several hundred dollars on my wizard to get Twilight Temple gear that was all +5 refined. At one point that was consider decent gear, but now I wonder if the gear could even get me into a Teritory War faction. I guessing if i applied now i woudl here many comments of how i need to work on my gear. I decided not to spend another dime on this game, not because its bad but for the fact i always realized ill be out spent and have a **** character. At the same time i thank those players cause the keep the servers open for me to play.

So now i just tool around with my veno and level my pets, which is the one thing i find enjoyable at this point. I probably play the game till its comepletely dead. Not sure if ill start anothe MMORPG or not. At this time i tell myself i won't but knowing me i wont be able to help myself and will starrt another one.

Obly - Dreamweaver

@OP

Game is NOT worth your time unless:

1: You have a credit Card and plan too buy Rank 9

2: are an exceptionally good at merchanting.

If you are neither of the above, don;t bother even starting this game.