Behemoth Fists
Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
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Is the proc on the fists annoying, or is it livable? 90% of the time, while using fists, I'm stationary, but there's always that one time when I need to dash over and pull something off a cleric.
Should I craft a set of behemoth fists from my Buddha fists, should I farm the gold mats for the Zerk fists, or should I just sell my Buddha fists when I'm done with them? Or should I go with the other fists path? IDK what to do... Axes are pretty well covered, doing Heraldry Axes on BM and the opposite path on my Barb when Barb hits 70, as well as Calamities. Pole is also covered. And a sword for giggles (gonna send that to my Seeker if I ever level it). So it's just fists I'm kinda stuck on... Any other options?
I've got the Wraithgate cape and Blood Moon LA wrists for int, and TT70 HA and LA for chest, leggings, and boots, all +3 for HA, +1 for LA (3 and 4 sockets, everything has Cits).
Should I craft a set of behemoth fists from my Buddha fists, should I farm the gold mats for the Zerk fists, or should I just sell my Buddha fists when I'm done with them? Or should I go with the other fists path? IDK what to do... Axes are pretty well covered, doing Heraldry Axes on BM and the opposite path on my Barb when Barb hits 70, as well as Calamities. Pole is also covered. And a sword for giggles (gonna send that to my Seeker if I ever level it). So it's just fists I'm kinda stuck on... Any other options?
I've got the Wraithgate cape and Blood Moon LA wrists for int, and TT70 HA and LA for chest, leggings, and boots, all +3 for HA, +1 for LA (3 and 4 sockets, everything has Cits).
101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level
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I never had those fists, but I can imagine them be a pain in the ***. 8 GBAs and Ribbons aren't cheap. You can probably get a pair of FC fists, which are far superior, for around the same price.0
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I agree with okeano, better go for vanity fist, now a day cost is cheap and better pve results with it's procs0
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Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »I never had those fists, but I can imagine them be a pain in the ***. 8 GBAs and Ribbons aren't cheap. You can probably get a pair of FC fists, which are far superior, for around the same price.Atzuky - Lost City wrote: »I agree with okeano, better go for vanity fist, now a day cost is cheap and better pve results with it's procs
Wellllllll...
Gorenox is ~3-4 mil for the Green FCC fist.
I can get a 2 socket +4 sharded Behemoth fist off AH for 5 mil.
Or I can farm the GBA's with faction. Same with ribbons.
really, though, I'm not looking at just the level 90 fist, but what comes after. I'm not getting Deicides, I think they are overdone and somewhat lame (and really overpriced), I'll be going for Nirvana fists.
GV's are 15m + right now, which is... A lot more than 8 GBA's and Ribbons.
So I'm kind of in the air on what to do... Gorenox greens for a bunch of levels, or... keep going with TT for 90 then nirvana for 100?101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level0 -
Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »Wellllllll...
Gorenox is ~3-4 mil for the Green FCC fist.
Don't use Gorenox greens. Buddhas are better.
I can get a 2 socket +4 sharded Behemoth fist off AH for 5 mil.
That's 5 mil for a crappy weapon. I'd guess Buddha's would still out DD.
Or I can farm the GBA's with faction. Same with ribbons.
really, though, I'm not looking at just the level 90 fist, but what comes after. I'm not getting Deicides, I think they are overdone and somewhat lame (and really overpriced), I'll be going for Nirvana fists.
They are overdone. So is armor. So is attacking. I think you should avoid all of those. Deicides are overdone because they provide excellent DD for a relatively low price. Goodluck finding vana farming squads with TT90 fists.
GV's are 15m + right now, which is... A lot more than 8 GBA's and Ribbons.
GBAs=900k x 8
+Ribbons= 600k x 8
+subs=32k x 12
=12.384mil
And thats the price of fists that suck worse than GV and probably worse than TT80 Buddhas fists. That's also not including souledges or the lose of reselling Buddha's. GVs are close enough of a cost that it should be a no brainer to just go for those or use Buddhas till you can get Deicides.
So I'm kind of in the air on what to do... Gorenox greens for a bunch of levels, or... keep going with TT for 90 then nirvana for 100?
Buddhas->GVs->Deicides-> Nirvana. GV's are more optional than the Deicides. Reasons are in red.Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »Axes are pretty well covered, doing Heraldry Axes on BM and the opposite path on my Barb when Barb hits 70, as well as Calamities. QUOTE]
Change to calamities on bm. Double damage on multiple mobs will always be worth the 5% hp loss, espcially if you are painted where you actually gain more hp back. Calams also give a huge vit/hp bonus and refine better than heraldry axes, which are just pathetic. Calams will last you till 90+, too.Seven 100+ characters leveled the hard way. Free to play. Mystic, Psychic, and Wizard left to level. b:victory0 -
If you can farm GBA and Ribbons, you can sell those and afford the "extra 10 mil" for FC fists. FC fists are pretty amazing for a level 85 weapon and can last you to 100 when you make your Nirvana. You can always sell them later to recover the cost.0
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Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »Buddhas->GVs->Deicides-> Nirvana. GV's are more optional than the Deicides. Reasons are in red.
Change to calamities on bm. Double damage on multiple mobs will always be worth the 5% hp loss, espcially if you are painted where you actually gain more hp back. Calams also give a huge vit/hp bonus and refine better than heraldry axes, which are just pathetic. Calams will last you till 90+, too.
Hm. Okay... And looks like GV's are closer to 25 mil right now QQ Oh well.
I already have Calamaties on BM. When using them, I have BP about 10% of the time. The Heraldry axes are unsharded, unrefined, and basically unused. They're just for the souledge, and maybe for the proc if say, a 101+ Veno/Cleric/Mystic/Psy is running my BM through something and I want to use the proc to debuff a boss for them. And even then, I still use the Calamities 90% of the time anyway...
So I suppose I'll get GV's for fists, and just use 'em until I've got Nirvana. ty101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level0 -
25 mil? Sucks to be on Sanc. I just saw some +4 ones for sale for 6 mil on HL yesterday >_>.0
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GV's for 25mil dayamn...
You be o'repayin for teh FF weapons at 25mil
Your better off skipping and getting decides for 10 more mil LOL0 -
Kaitica - Heavens Tear wrote: »GV's for 25mil dayamn...
You be o'repayin for teh FF weapons at 25mil
Your better off skipping and getting decides for 10 more mil LOL
Wait, wat?
Deicides are 45 mil and up on Sanct. Heaven Shatterer goes for 45 mil and up, the one in AH right now is 65 mil for a 1 socket, +2, no shard piece of ****. Pan Gu's Giant Axe is 25 mil and up, if you are lucky enough to find one.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level0 -
Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »Is the proc on the fists annoying, or is it livable? 90% of the time, while using fists, I'm stationary, but there's always that one time when I need to dash over and pull something off a cleric.
Should I craft a set of behemoth fists from my Buddha fists, should I farm the gold mats for the Zerk fists, or should I just sell my Buddha fists when I'm done with them? Or should I go with the other fists path? IDK what to do... Axes are pretty well covered, doing Heraldry Axes on BM and the opposite path on my Barb when Barb hits 70, as well as Calamities. Pole is also covered. And a sword for giggles (gonna send that to my Seeker if I ever level it). So it's just fists I'm kinda stuck on... Any other options?
I've got the Wraithgate cape and Blood Moon LA wrists for int, and TT70 HA and LA for chest, leggings, and boots, all +3 for HA, +1 for LA (3 and 4 sockets, everything has Cits).
Those fists were one of the original 5 I envisioned long before fist frenzy came around. So I made sure to have them as one of my swap sets. The obvious counter of clicking Will to counter the only downside of them was there to maintain interest to at least try.
That said, when I used them at 3.33 APS they were terrible. They rarely proc'ed; and while I didn't need to worry about stuns being made useless by taking effect while one already existed, the extremely low proc rate saw to it that it didn't happen. Due to sacrificing -int reducing spark amount, it simply failed to provide the small niche that it could have. And with the introduction of Blood Paint, it isn't even useful as a souledge for the 99 Faith set. So unless you're looking for cheap farming by making the 10% MP 99 set, this fist has no useful purpose.
Bottom line: the one thing it could have been useful for is removed due to extremely low proc rate even at high rates of APS. Unless you need mana regen, or +1 range for a specific function, don't bother getting them. All too often, Will of Bodhisatva would end before the fists would proc even once, to give you an idea of how bad they are.Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
Get a High lvl Fist warrior use it, Restat to axes. GG - complexx
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Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »Those fists were one of the original 5 I envisioned long before fist frenzy came around. So I made sure to have them as one of my swap sets. The obvious counter of clicking Will to counter the only downside of them was there to maintain interest to at least try.
That said, when I used them at 3.33 APS they were terrible. They rarely proc'ed; and while I didn't need to worry about stuns being made useless by taking effect while one already existed, the extremely low proc rate saw to it that it didn't happen. Due to sacrificing -int reducing spark amount, it simply failed to provide the small niche that it could have. And with the introduction of Blood Paint, it isn't even useful as a souledge for the 99 Faith set. So unless you're looking for cheap farming by making the 10% MP 99 set, this fist has no useful purpose.
Bottom line: the one thing it could have been useful for is removed due to extremely low proc rate even at high rates of APS. Unless you need mana regen, or +1 range for a specific function, don't bother getting them. All too often, Will of Bodhisatva would end before the fists would proc even once, to give you an idea of how bad they are.
Ah. Ew. lol
I'll get a junky set to make some TT99 fists then, I suppose. Might catch a set on AH for 2m or something. Yeah, the seller will take a huge loss, but it's my gain, as that's GBA's I don't have to farm in the future.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
100 Demon BM*/Barb
96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
95 Demon Wiz/
94 Sage Veno
85 Psy/80 Mystic
And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
*Pre RB level0
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