pking in secret passage-STUPID IDEA

Osacee - Raging Tide
Osacee - Raging Tide Posts: 16 Arc User
edited October 2011 in Arigora Colosseum
This has got to be the dumbest idea i have seen. I have people in my guild that left your PVP server just because of this. Low levels need a safe way through to get to other quests they have in secret poassage. Instead of high levels killing each other in SP, it is mass mayhem on anyone of any level that steps in there.

This is disgusting behavior and should be stopped. Low levels should not have to run a gauntlet of level 100 predators to do their basic quests. Give them another place to go. make then a town or something, to practice killing each other " safely", but don't frustrate lower levels because some higher level jerk wants to flex his muscle and show how "tough" he is by killing defenseless level 30. Get a grip PWI when level 100 would pk each other in there it was fine. Who's bright idea was it to allow this. This is nothing but a show case for "pwi bullies".

Osacee of Jedi faction (level 100 cleric) Raging Tide server
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  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    This is pretty hilarious. Almost makes me want to install the game again b:laugh
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I have people in my guild that left your PVP server just because of this.

    Raging Tide is a PvP server? Since when? O_o

    On Topic~ while I have not been personally effected by this when escorting people through SP on sanc, I do understand that people on pve servers are taking this change a little...crazily. Lets hope that the GMs tell the devs to, at the very least, change it so that those below 30 cannot be killed. At the most, I'd rather they move this change to some other location, or MAYBE open up the old arena for these sorts of things.
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  • d3v1lxd0gs
    d3v1lxd0gs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    This is pretty hilarious. Almost makes me want to install the game again b:laugh

    .. Wow seriously..? You're going to be another one of the higher levels just attacking any player in sight just for the heck of it..?

    THERE'S THE PROBLEM!!

    So many rude mean players killing lower levels when they're trying to level up.. PWI will lose customers.. Lower levels will become aggravated and quit because some higher level jerks won't let them do their culti quests.. I hope a lot of people quit PWI because so many things are so RIDICULOUS anymore..

    I signed up for a PVP for a reason..
  • friendlyfirefred
    friendlyfirefred Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    ok i get that they want a place to kill each other for jollies but not if your on a PVE server.
    would that rule still apply in a PVE environment?
    further shouldn't it be banned if your on that type of server?
    I have an entire faction that left lost city because none could advance beyond 30 every time we went to level we got killed by a high lever R-tard that was spanking it to his kill count of newly ganked players whal camping at the quest locations.

    I have worked hard on the toons i have now and dont play this game to kill other players.

    if people want to kill each other that's what the PVP servers are for.

    Several of the high level jack holes are quoted saying " if you don't like us killing you than go to a pve server. otherwise we are going to continue to **** you and your team." we have done that . making the SP a PVP zone is beyond unfair and stupid if it is aloud in a PVE server.
  • friendlyfirefred
    friendlyfirefred Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    quote from frankieraye
    origonal post
    --- http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1061771 ---

    1. Players have been asking for a place to PVP without dropping gear for a long time. This new Secret Passage fulfills that role.

    2. Secret Passage is not a mandatory instance for Spiritual Cultivation. Mobs needed for culti can be found just outside the instance as well.

    3. Those who need to enter the Hall of Deception instance can use the various Illusion Stones in Archosaur (one is at 529,664).


    So, in short, we're going to change this rule and monitor the situation. We do have a lot of high level players who would like to enter the world of PvP, and I believe that this new version of the Secret Passage will give them that opportunity.


    So please let me know if you have any questions, and I'd like to mention a special thank you to KrittyCat who worked really hard to talk with and help players during this most interesting situation.


    There are still 3 other bosses in there that LLs have to get to that the stones do not take them to. further it still doesnt answer ...P V E server... argument above.
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    We got the pvp update everyone wanted in the instance that nobody wanted it in b:cute
  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    d3v1lxd0gs wrote: »
    .. Wow seriously..? You're going to be another one of the higher levels just attacking any player in sight just for the heck of it..?

    THERE'S THE PROBLEM!!

    So many rude mean players killing lower levels when they're trying to level up.. PWI will lose customers.. Lower levels will become aggravated and quit because some higher level jerks won't let them do their culti quests.. I hope a lot of people quit PWI because so many things are so RIDICULOUS anymore..

    I signed up for a PVP for a reason..

    Hey man... I said it ALMOST makes me want to install again. I've been pwi free for over 7 months and proud. And besides the more incentive people give lowbies to leave this ****ty cash cow game the better.


    Also when I played Secret passage wasn't really a lowbie pking spot. It was more like a guild verse guild fighting arena where one guild is the king of the hill and the other guild has to successfully rush out of safe and kill everyone. Unless theres a mage who drops a massive aoe behind the wall b:laugh...
  • gabibrindusa
    gabibrindusa Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    quote from frankieraye
    origonal post
    --- http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1061771 ---

    1. Players have been asking for a place to PVP without dropping gear for a long time. This new Secret Passage fulfills that role.

    2. Secret Passage is not a mandatory instance for Spiritual Cultivation. Mobs needed for culti can be found just outside the instance as well.

    3. Those who need to enter the Hall of Deception instance can use the various Illusion Stones in Archosaur (one is at 529,664).


    So, in short, we're going to change this rule and monitor the situation. We do have a lot of high level players who would like to enter the world of PvP, and I believe that this new version of the Secret Passage will give them that opportunity.


    So please let me know if you have any questions, and I'd like to mention a special thank you to KrittyCat who worked really hard to talk with and help players during this most interesting situation.


    There are still 3 other bosses in there that LLs have to get to that the stones do not take them to. further it still doesnt answer ...P V E server... argument above.


    Looll you make me laughing... sorry but is almost crazy what are you saying here: in PW don't play only PVP playerssssss!!!!!! wake up, the game is for all not only for high PVP players!!! I am dissapointed about this... You seem to be like Mafia! other great game coming down :(
    We, the low lvl and PVE players have the same rights in this game like high PVP players... so plsssss resolve this problem!
  • themosteliteone
    themosteliteone Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Raging Tide is a PvP server? Since when? O_o

    On Topic~ while I have not been personally effected by this when escorting people through SP on sanc, I do understand that people on pve servers are taking this change a little...crazily. Lets hope that the GMs tell the devs to, at the very least, change it so that those below 30 cannot be killed. At the most, I'd rather they move this change to some other location, or MAYBE open up the old arena for these sorts of things.

    I've had a problem with people killing me on sanc server in SP. I was trying to help a friend and couldn't get out of the first room without being killed by someone. This is by far the stupidest idea ever. I don't think just lvl 30 people should be safe, what about the people helping them with a bh or a quest. I'm lvl 76 and I don't want to go in there and get killed while helping a friend. Thats messed up. PWI make a new area thats just like 100acres of flat ground or something so all these people can fight.... make a teleport there or something. Idk about everyone else, but when you first started this game and you had to go into SP to do a quest or a bh, thats probably how you leveled right? well now thats impossible if you die within 5 seconds of going in there. Its going to discourage new people that have just joined the game. They are going to be like wtf? how did I die? then they will go back in there and get killed again and so on.

    Anyways I believe PWI should do something about this or make a room for everyone that wants to have a mass killing and if I could, i would put a poll in here to see what everyone else thinks.b:angryb:angryb:angry
  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Can't wait for the Seekers and Wizzies to start auto killing ppl stoning in, gonna be fraken hilarious.
    PWI b:bye
  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Can't wait for the Seekers and Wizzies to start auto killing ppl stoning in, gonna be fraken hilarious.

    oh wait, are you saying that they don't do that already?
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  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I hope everyone took the time to register their vote in the poll....

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1180731
  • Taebaek - Heavens Tear
    Taebaek - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    It was banned in there for a reason... There was too many high lvls harassing ppl in there. Now they make it "ok" to do so. That is just stupid.
  • cerxes
    cerxes Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Greetings,
    i cant do my BH29 anymore, im not in PK modus and get killd whole time :(
  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    cerxes wrote: »
    Greetings,
    i cant do my BH29 anymore, im not in PK modus and get killd whole time :(

    yes you can...
    have you ever heard of the illusion stone?

    until they hopefully make changes to the ****ing situation here illusion stone is the best way in
    even though there is that 2 seconds when it shows you as being in the SP and leaves you susceptible to being killed, illusion stone is (almost) foolproof
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  • Ermosa - Heavens Tear
    Ermosa - Heavens Tear Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    illusion stone 1st teleports you into sp and then fb, set up aoe and u will kill any1 who will try port into fb. on slower pc i get hit 3-4 times by mob before i get into fb, aoe will kill all low level players who need fb, bh and quests in there
    so yeah gotta agree, its dumbest idea ever to make it into pvp zone
  • DuckTapez - Archosaur
    DuckTapez - Archosaur Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    illusion stone 1st teleports you into sp and then fb, set up aoe and u will kill any1 who will try port into fb.

    Archo server is empty enough so that one can actually stone in without being killed by players

    ...that was a joke
    (or is it? b:shocked)
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  • Samtpfote/ - Heavens Tear7
    Samtpfote/ - Heavens Tear7 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    b:angry I just got killed 3 times by enrage players in SP although I loudly shouted out that Id need to do a questhelping at dismal shade,Im so pissed,PLEASE STOP THIS.

    It makes me so furious that you cant get your quests done because some freaking bored highlvls kill everything that leaves the safe sone.

    I REALLY BEG OF YOU,STOP THIS INSANITY OR YOULL LOSE ALOT OF ACTUALLY LOYAL PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! b:angry
  • steben
    steben Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Dumbest idea i have ever witnessed, and i know plenty of dumbasses. i doubt they will ever read this but i hope they do.

    I play on a pve server (sactuary), usually on my lvl 70 sin yesterday me and some people from my faction went to kill Silver frost ( the lvl 85 wolf thingy in the secret passage).

    i barely made it into the room before being one shot by a lvl 104 archer. THANKS PW im on a PVE server because i want to be owned by high level PVP'ers ... yep, sure.

    PW (developers) you are stupid little clowns, for once do some original programming and not just import your whole game from the chinese. also if possible why not use your head for once.

    really? the secret passage, does PW honestly think there is some logic in that? Secret passage did serve a purpose, though clearly now its just for high level players wanting to grieve new players.

    in short, PW you have made a **** move. I'm probably not alone when i say this but i don't like what you have done, and i sure as hell don't appreciate it.
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    steben wrote: »
    Dumbest idea i have ever witnessed, and i know plenty of dumbasses. i doubt they will ever read this but i hope they do.

    I play on a pve server (sactuary), usually on my lvl 70 sin yesterday me and some people from my faction went to kill Silver frost ( the lvl 85 wolf thingy in the secret passage).

    i barely made it into the room before being one shot by a lvl 104 archer. THANKS PW im on a PVE server because i want to be owned by high level PVP'ers ... yep, sure.

    PW (developers) you are stupid little clowns, for once do some original programming and not just import your whole game from the chinese. also if possible why not use your head for once.

    really? the secret passage, does PW honestly think there is some logic in that? Secret passage did serve a purpose, though clearly now its just for high level players wanting to grieve new players.

    in short, PW you have made a **** move. I'm probably not alone when i say this but i don't like what you have done, and i sure as hell don't appreciate it.

    While I agree with you along with the 75% of those who voted in the open poll... PWE has chosen to take a stance to embrace and promote harassment as a viable form of game play in their game. The last actual information we were given was the company didnt find it necessary for anyone to actually go to Secret Passage other then to enjoy their new open PVP instance. Further more they actually feel a group of level 70-80 players should have little trouble taking on a group of 8 or more level 100+ players from the servers top TW faction who enjoys camping the instance. The leaders of this game feel the best introduction into PVP on PVE servers is to let them be continually killed (on purpose) by extremely high level players is a change to encourage players to want to participate in PVP. I must say it really shows in the polls as a clear super majority of players who voted have stated they do not care for the big F.U. PWE has told the dedicated players who CHOOSE a PVE server and wish to complete quests.

    I just hope too many people dont pass the word about the poll and stack the deck against this change as its already embarrassing for the company to claim so many people were in favor of this change and yet we have not seen it in the poll.
  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    oh wait, are you saying that they don't do that already?

    I'm on a PVE server hun. No they didn't do that. Not that you actually need to use a aoe, if you stand close enough you can just tab and melee them over and over again. Its a bit savage I guess, but thats skill isn't it, auto attacking ppl, where have we seen this before?. Unfortunately for PWI it gets its updates from China and this situation will unfortunately persist for quite some time. People will quit when they realise that they have lost the vast majority of lvl 30 - 40 content including quests lines that begin outside and cannot be completed because it includes interior bosses.

    Nice to see some people care enough on here about the players that choose to play for content than noob their way to R9.

    GL with poll <3
    PWI b:bye
  • NinjaStix - Lost City
    NinjaStix - Lost City Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    All these carebears having a QQ is funny, you're all raging and throwing around dim-whitted remarks. "OMG blah blah blah, you gonna lose alot of your player base over this."

    Well, guess what? those of you that are complaining have numerous choices.

    1. Level up, get geared & join the crowd, it's fun once you open your self-righteously blinded eyes.
    2. Don't go into SP, there are no/none/ZERO mandatory quests in there.
    3. Shut up, don't complain. You don't throw enough cash at this game to have a say in what you think is justified.

    I think I solved the issue. b:pleased
  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Eactly the type of responce you would expect from someone posting on a class in pvp forum section that requires no skill and only a credit card to perfect.
    PWI b:bye
  • NinjaStix - Lost City
    NinjaStix - Lost City Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Eactly the type of responce you would expect from someone posting on a class in pvp forum section that requires no skill and only a credit card to perfect.

    Exactly what the type of response you'd expect from someone that plays a class with 6 Offensive capabilities. Grow up please, this is an alt that doesn't get leveled, I main a Wiz & Barb. Think about your posts before you assume something that isn't as it appears.

    And carefully re-read my above post, CAREBEARS, you people will complain about ANYTHING that obstructs your precious PvE.

    Answer me a question; would you waste $100's just for PvE, when you can eventually farm it? If not, **** you don't contribute enough to PWE to have a legitimate rebuttal to the PvPing player-base that enjoys this change.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    There's only about 4 quests in total that involve Secret Passage. If you need FB/BH 29 then you can simply use the Illusion Stone. 5k is easy to come across at any level so people that use "but what about FB29!!!!!" as an excuse for why PvP in SP is bad should just shut it.

    Of the quests you need to go through SP for none of them are important to the game aside from Silver Frost. The quests that you do in there give little xp and one could easily make the xp gained from them up with an Oracle II which costs maybe 20-30k depending on where you buy them. It sucks that some people get killed when they're after Silver Frost but I'm not entirely sure why by the time they hit 70 they don't have higher level friends that could come protect them and kill Silver Frost as well. So uh... yeah.. unless you're a friendless lowbie that can't afford Hypers you should really stop whining. I mean seriously.. you're whining about like.. 30k xp worth of quests and Silver Frost... you don't even need OHT access until you're going for your Celestial cultivation... which would require being level 100 and I'd hope you could make it through by that level.

    Anyway.. the point is... stop whining about SP, it's not a necessity aside from Silver Frost if you're actually gonna become a Celestial. Sooo yeah..... calm the ef down already people.
  • StacysMum - Dreamweaver
    StacysMum - Dreamweaver Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Zan baby a sin high enough lvl can waltz through to the illusion teleport in point right in front of the gate and kill anybody stoning in and if they are smart they would use a fast aoe just incase ppl get the idea to stone in simultaneously to avoid attacks.
    Pretty sure FB29 is important, game might suck otherwise.

    As to the a$$hole sin that still makes 5 more attacks than you have noob.

    And yeah I did pay more than $100 so I will have my say.
    PWI b:bye
  • NinjaStix - Lost City
    NinjaStix - Lost City Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    And yeah I did pay more than $100 so I will have my say.

    You sir, are an idiot.
    Over $100 to PvE? You got ripped off, make a BM or Sin & sell frosts or run NV.
    A simple few $100 doesn't make you a major contributor, it just makes you look like a lazy carebear.

    Your comments are meaningless **** referring to how OP you think a Sin is, I stated in my last post that i DO NOT main a Sin, I sell frosts, that is all.

    As for your excuse "without fb29 the game would be ****", Illusion stone can help you there, as several people have stated.
  • NinjaStix - Lost City
    NinjaStix - Lost City Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    As to the a$$hole sin that still makes 5 more attacks than you have noob.

    As for this, you're assuming that I'm an auto-attacker. You couldn't be MORE wrong.

    I utilise the skills I have available & more often then not, kill 10x Sins in their full APS gear.
    You jump to conclusions too quick, hence why you are losing an arguement over the internet.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Zan baby a sin high enough lvl can waltz through to the illusion teleport in point right in front of the gate and kill anybody stoning in and if they are smart they would use a fast aoe just incase ppl get the idea to stone in simultaneously to avoid attacks.
    Pretty sure FB29 is important, game might suck otherwise.

    As to the a$$hole sin that still makes 5 more attacks than you have noob.

    And yeah I did pay more than $100 so I will have my say.

    I did baby a sin, got him to 101 then made him my main after the removal of cancel casting :P As for killing someone in the way you mentioned... that'd be pretty hard, unless it was a Wizard or Seeker being a jerk but someone nice could always go interrupt/kill them.

    Also, to the Stacy is arguing with... I spent 120 bucks over my 2 and a half years of playing PWI. I farmed the rest, I have about a billion in gear on Dreamweaver and about about... 300m or so on Lothranis without any cash shopping whatsoever... umad?
  • NinjaStix - Lost City
    NinjaStix - Lost City Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Also, to the Stacy is arguing with... I spent 120 bucks over my 2 and a half years of playing PWI. I farmed the rest, I have about a billion in gear on Dreamweaver and about about... 300m or so on Lothranis without any cash shopping whatsoever... umad?

    Why would I be mad bruh? The only PvE I do is frost, the rest is PvP.
    I'll leave farming to the carebears, so you can keep your hard earned coin while I jack up gold prices & blow it on refines.
    Nice try, but you need to do better then that.