Lowbies can skip SP.nothing u need by L40 anyway
CheetahWoods - Raging Tide
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rep? heh ya like who quests for rep?
FB tabs? useless excercise for 7rep and some purple ****.
it is just quests that can be totally skipped since there is ZERO CULTI stuff in there.
BOTTOM LINE: lowbies , you dont need to be in SP..high-bees: fire at will if they really think they need to be in there
FB tabs? useless excercise for 7rep and some purple ****.
it is just quests that can be totally skipped since there is ZERO CULTI stuff in there.
BOTTOM LINE: lowbies , you dont need to be in SP..high-bees: fire at will if they really think they need to be in there
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ok, einstein..why does one NEED to be in SP. maybe turn your ignorant laugh into something possessing intelligence and clue me in0 -
Yeah cuz FB is the only reason to go into SP... >.< Not like there is the ledendary Quest there (Wheel of Earth) , the Ladywraith Quest (Shade Eido), Dismal Shade and for higher level Silverfrost. Not to mention that doing Qingzi BH from lvl40-50 is the easiest method to level if you prefer to level without spending coins on fc heads...
So yeah, FB might not be worth it that much, but its also not the only thing in SP.0 -
SP doesn't really serve a purpose anymore than a PK hotspot, much like........... well everything outside of safe zone.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Shadow_knife - Raging Tide wrote: »Yeah cuz FB is the only reason to go into SP... >.< Not like there is the ledendary Quest there (Wheel of Earth) , the Ladywraith Quest (Shade Eido), Dismal Shade and for higher level Silverfrost. Not to mention that doing Qingzi BH from lvl40-50 is the easiest method to level if you prefer to level without spending coins on fc heads...
So yeah, FB might not be worth it that much, but its also not the only thing in SP.
ok, you do not NEED any of those quests. this is my facetious, yet truthful point.
there are a ton of quests in there. ive done them multiple times and helped too many to count. big waste of time other than the full richness game experience. none of the prizes are worth **** for more than a few levels0 -
Ye ye doing quests there isn't a must.
Doing tabbed quingzi isn't a must either.
Ye ye you can skip whole SP,who cares.
Hey you known,playing this game isn't necessary either.
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CheetahWoods - Raging Tide wrote: »ok, you do not NEED any of those quests. this is my facetious, yet truthful point.
there are a ton of quests in there. ive done them multiple times and helped too many to count. big waste of time other than the full richness game experience. none of the prizes are worth **** for more than a few levels
...getting to OHT is pretty damn important, though. Other than that quest however, I indeed didn't bother going to SP at all on my alts.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
oh dear... yeah you dont NEED to, but you dont NEED to do alot of stuff that you do... you dont NEED to kill newbies either :P
The point im trying to make is that it is really helpful to do these quests in there for lowbies to level... cuz believe it or not, not everyone is leveling by heads nowadays.
I dont have anything against people pking in SP, as long as they dont deliberatly kill lowbies. I have been in SP myself with my baby psy sometimes; so far i never got killed, i hugged the wall a bit and it worked fine. I can understand that people pk in there atm, cuz you can get experience in mass pvp without risking to loose anything.
But what i cant understand are people who feel the need to kill lowbies, just because they are there. It can happen that you kill a lowbie by accident with an aoe, but then you can just apologize and (almost) noone will have hard feelings.
So why on earth do you need to call everyone on lowbie hunt in SP? Why do you NEED to do that? And if you dont NEED to, why do you?0 -
ok u sort of got me on silverfrost..but sort of not. isnt really for lowbies <L40
edit:actually, i have already followed my suggestion..for now.
i like soloing bosses with my cleric(L91 only so it has limits heh). great challenge, especially the ones that pwn you a few times before you get it sorted out. silver is next in line, but he is going to have to wait for me to try him. L91 cleric is soooo dead meat in there. and ya i think it's kind of funny0 -
So I take that it your gonna decide for a new player what they should and should not do in the game. Did someone tell you not to explore sp when you were a newby because there is no reason to be in there? I sure know i went into that mysterious place curious as all hell as to what i would find. Your the type of person that would denie a person that fun cause you have already seen it and done it all and can decide what we do and do not need to do ingame. We should just all buy fc from lvl 1 on up right?b:byeIf you find yourself hopelessly pulled towards running into massive amounts of mobs in a vain attempt to aoe them all to death.......You just might be a bm.0
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Reaperarm - Harshlands wrote: »So I take that it your gonna decide for a new player what they should and should not do in the game.
QFT
Seriously! At least for me telling me not to do something with a, wiser than thou lowbie, attitude will all ways result in me doing the exact opposite. Friendly advice is almost as likely to be ignored so I can make my own mistakes.
So, learn some manners, allow lower level players to use Secret Passage in the manner for which it was originally intended, and shut up.
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Reaperarm - Harshlands wrote: »So I take that it your gonna decide for a new player what they should and should not do in the game. Did someone tell you not to explore sp when you were a newby because there is no reason to be in there? I sure know i went into that mysterious place curious as all hell as to what i would find. Your the type of person that would denie a person that fun cause you have already seen it and done it all and can decide what we do and do not need to do ingame. We should just all buy fc from lvl 1 on up right?b:bye
"Did someone tell you not to explore sp when you were a newby because there is no reason to be in there?"
Nobody tell what not,but same applies to whom said you got to?.None of"Must",or"Not must",are told,its your own decision.
Apply this toughs at FB89 Eden or Brim,you can get in those cave at lv.1,nobody told you not to explore those,just don't QQ in the forum if you're 1-shooted by the mobs inside(Even if you wine it),nobody forced you to get there,and nobody can force you to not,if you want,at your own risk.Iam Segreta,Queen of the Chicken Kingdom,proud owner of the legendary Blue Chicken,BEHOLD Mortals o,o^
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Oh look, another one of these threads...
@ the OP's point: God forbid anyone do anything in a game out of desire rather than necessity. It's not required that you PK in SP either.
Pkers: Don't harass low levels, questers, and blue names.
All others: Let the pkers enjoy their playground.
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Segreta - Sanctuary wrote: »"Did someone tell you not to explore sp when you were a newby because there is no reason to be in there?"
Nobody tell what not,but same applies to whom said you got to?.None of"Must",or"Not must",are told,its your own decision.
Apply this toughs at FB89 Eden or Brim,you can get in those cave at lv.1,nobody told you not to explore those,just don't QQ in the forum if you're 1-shooted by the mobs inside(Even if you wine it),nobody forced you to get there,and nobody can force you to not,if you want,at your own risk.
Your argument is completely irrelevant to the fact that bluenames are being killed in sp somehow wich is a glitch and is against game rules since its the exploitation of a glitch. Stop making excuses to kill lowbies and bluenames in sp. Btw im on a pvp server and i was pked multiple times going in there as a newby wich is fine because I knew that would happen on a pvp server,but it should not be happening to blue names on a pve server.If you find yourself hopelessly pulled towards running into massive amounts of mobs in a vain attempt to aoe them all to death.......You just might be a bm.0 -
CheetahWoods - Raging Tide wrote: »rep? heh ya like who quests for rep?
FB tabs? useless excercise for 7rep and some purple ****.
it is just quests that can be totally skipped since there is ZERO CULTI stuff in there.
BOTTOM LINE: lowbies , you dont need to be in SP..high-bees: fire at will if they really think they need to be in there
Congratulations... you just won the dumbest player who posted in the forum prize... like you can decide why or why not I should be in SP b:chuckle0 -
So you want to move into an area that lowbies are questing in and act like you own the place because you want to PK without any negative consequences? Grow a pair of furballs and go back to picking on people your own size. The only thing that isn't needed in SP is people like you.
The devs need to put SP back to the way it was and give these people their own area since it's quite obvious that several of them have no plans to play nice.0 -
Reaperarm - Harshlands wrote: »Your argument is completely irrelevant to the fact that bluenames are being killed in sp somehow wich is a glitch and is against game rules since its the exploitation of a glitch. Stop making excuses to kill lowbies and bluenames in sp. Btw im on a pvp server and i was pked multiple times going in there as a newby wich is fine because I knew that would happen on a pvp server,but it should not be happening to blue names on a pve server.
Did you really get my argument or you're just wildly assuming that I approve killing the lowbies in SP?
As I already known,and as you stated,killing lowbies in SP its bannable BUT NOT killing players there,even blue-named,it has been officially stated(Even if its a glitch as you say),PK in secret passage is allowed,as long as isn't an harassment against lowbie which are trying to do their quests.
So I don't really get what's the QQ you're talking about.Iam Segreta,Queen of the Chicken Kingdom,proud owner of the legendary Blue Chicken,BEHOLD Mortals o,o^
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Stupid OP troll is stupid...by your logic, we don't need to even play the game, we don't need to do any quests, we could just hyper heads to 100 then, as you put, we could finally do some culti and " fire at will if they really think they need to be in there" ... so FU, some ppl enjoy doing quests, because, you know, it's a game and some people play to have fun and immerse in the storyline of the quests.
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This thread is stupid.
It's like doing people "Don't do anything in game, or don't go what u want to do, there's now a game glitch preventing you to do so"
Having you read throughout the forums "Play the game like you want it to be played and let others play it like they would want to ?"
It's none of the OP's buisness to state what quests should and should not be done at the level you get them.
If anything, this new glitch comes in conflict with the very ToS, that says :
(f) "Stalk," threaten or otherwise harass or cause discomfort to another;
(h) Impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play
And :
(n) Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
It's what players are doing right now by pking "lowbies" that might want to get their fb's done, or the bosses in there. So what if they want to get it at lvl 29, they should be allowed to. So what if they like their quest list cleared as they get the quests, they should also have the right to be able to go get that wheel of earth, dismal, bh, drop from ancient evils or whatever in there.
"yeah , but they can stone in"
You can just stone in to the second part, and as it was said in a now necroed thread, for a low level , it can be dangerous to actually stone in : The famous "killed by a tombstone near while game is loading, and ending up dead in Hall of deception"
This bug should be fixed ASAP, not that it does affect me, all my chars have all bosses killed, oht done and such. But to all new players, it can be very bothersome and prevent them to enjoy the game the way THEY want.Proud supporter of the new expansion. Sure it has it's share of bugs, like any games. But for a pure farmer/grinder, that's a whole lot of new mobs to go beat up b:chuckle0 -
I dont like the fact sp is now pk enabled for all but..
A blue name is a blue name, not meant to be killed by other players unless they enter a pvp area, and as it seems SP is now such a place guess the ppl on pve servers have to deal with it for now, from what i understand they are gonna open some kind of pvp arena (hopefully open at all times) and maybe then SP will get back to normal.
Atm though it seems the gms arent even sure if this was unintended or not and china might choose to leave it like this ( although an incredible stupid place for a penalty free pvp area)
I dont like it but ppl need to learn that there are no pure pve servers just pvp and pvp/pve servers, cant expect to escape pk forever, just see it as yet another challenge in your everyday pve life. at least for now.0 -
CheetahWoods - Raging Tide wrote: »ok, you do not NEED any of those quests. this is my facetious, yet truthful point.
there are a ton of quests in there. ive done them multiple times and helped too many to count. big waste of time other than the full richness game experience. none of the prizes are worth **** for more than a few levels
So you are now supreme being to judge what OTHER players might enjoy doing or not doing? So you can speak for each and EVERY new player who might have been recruited from other games to come to PWI on what they may enjoy? Its amazing the uber lifers who have nothing better to do then sit around with their thumb up a body part want to comment because they have done something 100x... others dont need or wont want to do. For each one of you nerd rage lifer trolls... I can find 10 ppl in game who have done them many times on several different characters and yet STILL want to do them again and enjoy questing.
My advice is take your credit card zen buying pathetic nerd rage life and go find a hobby cause clearly you are too bored with this game to even enjoy it.0 -
CheetahWoods - Raging Tide wrote: »ok, you do not NEED any of those quests.
well no one NEEDS to be pking in there. that place was originally for level ~40 quests, not a "hotspot" for pking. let's face it, the only reason it became a hotspot in the first place was because people wanted to up their e-peens by picking off the lower levels, since it was guaranteed lowbie area.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Sefiere - Sanctuary wrote: »I dont like the fact sp is now pk enabled for all but..
A blue name is a blue name, not meant to be killed by other players unless they enter a pvp area, and as it seems SP is now such a place guess the ppl on pve servers have to deal with it for now, from what i understand they are gonna open some kind of pvp arena (hopefully open at all times) and maybe then SP will get back to normal.
Atm though it seems the gms arent even sure if this was unintended or not and china might choose to leave it like this ( although an incredible stupid place for a penalty free pvp area)
I dont like it but ppl need to learn that there are no pure pve servers just pvp and pvp/pve servers, cant expect to escape pk forever, just see it as yet another challenge in your everyday pve life. at least for now.
YES... we should all look forward to getting one shot as a level 30 by a level 100 loser who isnt brave enough to join a PVP server. I love your thinking... its such the challenge for the level 100 and such a learning experience for the level 30. WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON... planet dumb a##? The vast majority of players who join the game and choose a PVE server are here for pure entertainment and enjoy the game as just that... a game. We dont register to go to the tournaments. We dont sign up and skip around factions to be in the 'BEST' TW faction to have eFame. We dont slap our member up on the eTable to measure it. We sure as hell dont go to places to exploit the game and harass other players. In fact my faction leaders freely boot players for such actions.
Its hilarious so many of you PVP players got such big heads but I heard when the best USA server teams went to convention they got their junk handed to them quite rapidly in each match. For so much talk there seems to be so LITTLE to show. Maybe its because these 'power' players spend too much time going to SP to harass low level players and the other players who agree to help them.
So far the USA server pvp players got ZERO to brag about other then harassing low levels which seems to be the typical attitude. We cant be the best so we just beat up low levels. If China doesnt pull its head out of its (body part) they will soon have a mass exit of those pve players who spend money on Zen for their entertainment in the game. Could this be why there has been such a push in sales on items in the boutique to get more people to spend money to buy zen? Right now there is a push to boycott buying zen till this SP blunder is fixed. Wont be much fun in SP when there wont be any low level players going to SP any more. What will the childish PVP noobs do then?0 -
Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »Real players skip everything and hitch a ride to FCC at lvl1.
sorry... a little confusion on your part... REAL players enjoy playing all of the game and actually DO the quests because they ENJOY doing the work. The pathetic losers who just want to be handed a fully leveled character and get handed top gear so they can go kill level 30 players in SP would be the FAIL to the game.0 -
Isn't the abuse of Glitches an offense against the ToS, and therefore bannable anyway? b:puzzled0
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Why hasn't a Wizard set up DB right by the entrance to FB29 yet? I mean where the 3 mobs are. When you tele in from the stone, it teles you to that spot first, then you get teled into the instance. 9x+ wiz set up DB there would basically make it impossible for anyone to get into the instance, they'd get oneshot teleing in. Now BH29 is impossible to do, and FB29 is impossible to do.101 Sage Sin*/Archer
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Yes, God Forbid some of us actually like doing quests. I quested even this toon through all of her low level quests despite having made other characters and done these same quests 5 or 6 times over. I don't mind it, to me it's part of the game experience. I thoroughly enjoyed every bit of the quests in this game when I first joined back in 2008, everything was new. I remember a wizard friend I met while questing who told me about SP, and of course naturally my curiosity was heightened about it. What was this mysterious place? XD
It was fun going in and questing there because it was close quarters, sort of like a tomb of sorts, and it was fun figuring out routes to take and where I needed to be for certain mobs needed for quests. Making the trek to the FB29 portal was just as challenging.
I don't think it would be right to deny new players the opportunity to do these same things I remember doing. Making SP pk-enabled wasn't the smartest idea because they should have known, that at least on PvE servers, people would go crazy over it and pk like mad in there. PvP servers think it's "old hat" by now and see nothing different about it and the craze wore off probably years ago. That's why this isn't such a big problem for them.
I think the rule of not harassing lowbies in SP is a good one, however it'd be nice if they would extend that to also the higher levels who are there helping their friends or guildmates. Not everyone who waltzes in there has the intention of attacking or being attacked, they just want to help others. I often would go in there on my cleric and kill Dismal for people who needed it. If I had to do that now, I would almost guarantee I'd probably be attacked by some invisible assassin or something else. You'd like to think that if you say what you're doing there, people will leave you alone, but that isn't always the case. Not everyone is very courteous. They just want to show off their epeens without actually having any challenge, which is the problem I have with PK enabled SP. PvP server perhaps it's fair but, on a PvE server, where I for one signed up without intention of ever going into PK when I can avoid it, I don't think is fair at all. Just like the first room in the Cube, people are still tards in there. Only difference is you can report it... where SP you cannot apparently, unless it's specifically hindering your ability to quest as a lowbie.
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YES... we should all look forward to getting one shot as a level 30 by a level 100 loser who isnt brave enough to join a PVP server. I love your thinking... its such the challenge for the level 100 and such a learning experience for the level 30. WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON... planet dumb a##? The vast majority of players who join the game and choose a PVE server are here for pure entertainment and enjoy the game as just that... a game. We dont register to go to the tournaments. We dont sign up and skip around factions to be in the 'BEST' TW faction to have eFame. We dont slap our member up on the eTable to measure it. We sure as hell dont go to places to exploit the game and harass other players. In fact my faction leaders freely boot players for such actions.
Its hilarious so many of you PVP players got such big heads but I heard when the best USA server teams went to convention they got their junk handed to them quite rapidly in each match. For so much talk there seems to be so LITTLE to show. Maybe its because these 'power' players spend too much time going to SP to harass low level players and the other players who agree to help them.
So far the USA server pvp players got ZERO to brag about other then harassing low levels which seems to be the typical attitude. We cant be the best so we just beat up low levels. If China doesnt pull its head out of its (body part) they will soon have a mass exit of those pve players who spend money on Zen for their entertainment in the game. Could this be why there has been such a push in sales on items in the boutique to get more people to spend money to buy zen? Right now there is a push to boycott buying zen till this SP blunder is fixed. Wont be much fun in SP when there wont be any low level players going to SP any more. What will the childish PVP noobs do then?
you missed my point....breaking rules is not ok, and i also said i DID NOT like this change either, QQ and rage wont make it better and our gms are looking into it, even if it takes weeks or months they probably gonna get more done bout it than we are lol.
Also i have never even touched the Pk button lol, i dun like it but see no reason to hate it. I dont care for TW and PK events and probably never will.
edit: i was gonna add more stuff here but whatever.....0
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