APS = Good not God

doods00
doods00 Posts: 106 Arc User
edited August 2011 in General Discussion
Why do people Q.Q so much about APS?

i laugh when a sin duels my barb and they kill themselves in the first swing. there is so many ways to kill people with aps i dont see the problem other then learn to play your character before u power lvl up and then whine about how the game is unfair.
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  • Barunaa - Heavens Tear
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    they QQ because its the most popular thing to QQ about.

    in actual reality rank 9 wizzards and rank 9 psys are the true OP characters in the game. however there not as popular as 5 aps so ppl dont QQ about it because they wont get any attention.
  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    APS isn't really that efficient in PVP. It's the same reason the lvl 69 legendary slingshot on LC is about 10% as expensive as on a PvE server even though it has -0.1 interval.

    PvP = using skills more than random attacking
    Skills = ignore attack speed, because they have their own cast times.

    APS is more of a problem in PvE like Nirvana squads because caster classes never get into NV squads.
    Yes they can make their own squads with friends/faction...but that's not as convenient as just going in WC and linking your wep.

    It's stupid because APS directly means DPS.
    DPS is supposed to be a mix of damage per hit, and attacks per second.

    But damage per hit doesn't vary. All the lvl 99 TT fists have the same damage on them, and same with axes,swords, everything. so the only thing setting these weapons apart is attack speed.
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  • Susamajii - Lost City
    Susamajii - Lost City Posts: 902 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    APS isn't really that efficient in PVP.

    You don't pvp much do you? Take away APS from a sin in PvP and then tell me it isn't efficient in PvP.
    Push me,
    And then just touch me.
    Tilll I get my,
    Satisfaction.
  • all4nothing
    all4nothing Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    b:shutup
  • Skippy - Dreamweaver
    Skippy - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Susamajii - Lost City wrote: »
    You don't pvp much do you? Take away APS from a sin in PvP and then tell me it isn't efficient in PvP.

    ^this
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Susamajii - Lost City wrote: »
    You don't pvp much do you? Take away APS from a sin in PvP and then tell me it isn't efficient in PvP.

    Take it away from an Archer in PVP. QQ That's either worse or negligible, depends on gear I guess...
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Susamajii - Lost City wrote: »
    You don't pvp much do you? Take away APS from a sin in PvP and then tell me it isn't efficient in PvP.

    key word 'efficient'.

    Yeah, it's effective but not efficient.

    In most other games APS would be terrible. Shows how fked this game really is because there's only one effective but inefficiently designed method for no.1 pvp.
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  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Lol @ r9 wizzies > r9 sin
  • LilNai - Harshlands
    LilNai - Harshlands Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Lol @ r9 wizzies > r9 sin

    Its true.

    ....Depending on specific circumstances. Say..... PWIC? b:chuckle
  • SinFulGodX - Sanctuary
    SinFulGodX - Sanctuary Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Susamajii - Lost City wrote: »
    You don't pvp much do you? Take away APS from a sin in PvP and then tell me it isn't efficient in PvP.

    http://pwcalc.com/e86a5e1124504ae5 ijs

    It could be better sharded, but that build is not even close to APS based.
    I think it would be VERY effective.
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Take it away from an Archer in PVP. QQ That's either worse or negligible, depends on gear I guess...

    http://pwcalc.com/a84ab37136bdde22

    Not APS based either... VERY effective. Yes a few pieces have -int but not their for the -int.
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »
    Its true.

    ....Depending on specific circumstances. Say..... PWIC? b:chuckle

    I was under the impression we were talking about 1v1 b:shocked

    but yes, psys and wizzies own sins in group/TW
  • doods00
    doods00 Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I was under the impression we were talking about 1v1 b:shocked

    but yes, psys and wizzies own sins in group/TW

    depends come to sanctuary and 1 v 1 kanjou. i bet u lose everytime. psy's crush hands down at lvl 100 plus.
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    doods00 wrote: »
    Why do people Q.Q so much about APS?

    i laugh when a sin duels my barb and they kill themselves in the first swing. there is so many ways to kill people with aps i dont see the problem other then learn to play your character before u power lvl up and then whine about how the game is unfair.
    doods00 wrote: »
    Why do people Q.Q so much about APS?

    i laugh when a sin duels my barb and they kill themselves in the first swing.
    doods00 wrote: »
    i laugh when a sin duels my barb and they kill themselves in the first swing.
    doods00 wrote: »
    when a sin duels my barb
    doods00 wrote: »
    duels

    Duels, serious business.
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  • Shinsetsu - Lothranis
    Shinsetsu - Lothranis Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Duels? Believe...in the heart of the cards! b:chuckle
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Activate my trap card !! b:angry You lose the duel. b:pleased
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  • StormHydra - Sanctuary
    StormHydra - Sanctuary Posts: 2,221 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Omg I remember watching yugioh when i was younger.
    good times.
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