Seeker, good or not in TW?

_Nettuno_ - Harshlands
_Nettuno_ - Harshlands Posts: 46 Arc User
edited August 2011 in Seeker
Hello, the title say everything: i would like to know if the seeker is good in TW, and if can be better than a psy :)
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  • Durable - Raging Tide
    Durable - Raging Tide Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Seeker's can be great in TW! We have great survivability and do decent damage from range...but compared to a Psy its really no contest. Seekers really only have 2 useful skills in TW which are gemini slash and the occasional suicide vortex. You're better off making a psy with there great crowd control skills.
  • _Nettuno_ - Harshlands
    _Nettuno_ - Harshlands Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I'm asking because a guy told me that yes, psy are good but absolutly need the r9. In all videos i seen the seeker was in r8 (the gear i'm planning to have, absolutly no more than that) and was pretty good
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Good luck getting off a useful Gemini in the 6 second time frame Blade Affinity gives you. How many antistuns do Seekers have again?
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Seekers have far more useful skills than just those two they are just a couple of our major hitters.... I for one rarelly use vortex in TW, only when the moment is right.

    On that note, you have to look at class objective, and the roles in TW... Obvilously we are not going to show damage numbers like a magic class does on a HA class. Why is this? Our targets will never have near the HP/defenses that a magic class must be targetting. Their main objective is to target classes that could have HP in the higher numbers of 20k-40k HP.

    Our most favorable targets are robes/LA - Meaning classes that have HP in the numbers of 8k HP - 16K HP meaning the metal skills we have is efficient enough to do some major damage to an LA with a good combo, and our physical damage combined to do some efficient damage to a LA, but awesome damage to a robe..

    Take those two HP/defenses lvl into context with the seekers skills. Basically you flipped a robe/HA in a role of nuking power.
    We are designed to nuke the **** out of robes, and kill LAs with little/some effort.

    One thing people seem to also over look, is several of our decent hitting skill cast/chan within seconds. our forte is being able to unleash several of our heaviest hitters in a matter of seconds. But all the other skills unreliant on BA, still can be spammed effectivly.

    Until you see r9 seekers in the bigger TWs, you wont hear good reports about them. A r8 seeker against a r9 is obviously not gonna prove anything. But a r8/tt99 seeker in a predominate r8/tt99 TW fight, rasies some blood preassure on the aposeing team.
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Good luck getting off a useful Gemini in the 6 second time frame Blade Affinity gives you. How many antistuns do Seekers have again?

    Yea because we stand around stunned through out the entire TW...

    Sage BA gives tidal protection for one...

    with sage unfetter, tidal protections, genie, apoth, who actually stays stunned in TWs?
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  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »
    Yea because we stand around stunned through out the entire TW...

    Sage BA gives tidal protection for one...

    with sage unfetter, tidal protections, genie, apoth, who actually stays stunned in TWs?

    How many Seekers are Sage? b:puzzled Point is, Seekers really have nothing going for them once Blade Affinity is used up.
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  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    How many Seekers are Sage? b:puzzled Point is, Seekers really have nothing going for them once Blade Affinity is used up.

    90% of seekers I would say are sage, ones that went demon are wishing they were sage...

    A sage seeker with the 100 skills, are even increased in antistun.. so.. either way. Its how you play a seeker on how harmful stuns are to you. Only stuns that concern me are from sins, well who doesnt have that concern? But then again, its not like I havnt survived a sin in TW enough that I say the class is useless because of a few seconds lacking of antistun compared to other classes.

    Considering we are also a ranged class, and kinda balances it out.

    edit: as far as BA....for me the use is circumstantial. I don't rely on it to just cast gemeni. Ive droped entire groups with ION+gemeni at regular channeling.
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  • The_Shocker - Heavens Tear
    The_Shocker - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Heart Seeker ftw.

    Another fun trick when a BM is running in to stun HF: unfetter (or badge of courage), QPQ, "assist", byebye. b:chuckle

    Seekers can be a lot of fun, as well as effective, in TW. As mentioned before, the challenge and frustration comes in when r9 isn't available, and you get KO'd by the r9 wizzies/psychos.
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  • Vorbane - Harshlands
    Vorbane - Harshlands Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Do what you think is fun. Im starting mine out and after talking with a few old (Very experienced in TW) buddies we figured Seeker is just under rated as everyone is used to super easy mode classes like sin and before that nix veno. Im pretty experienced in TW (~200 done on HL, ~150 done on Oracle MYEN) and on paper Seeker sounds great. I think that the normal conventions for a heavy user class wont work for a seeker in TW (Bullrush right in like a WR would) but instead requires some thought.


    P.S Take the information you get from PvE server players with a grain of salt, as PvP servers generally have a different (read: more intense, more skilled players) TW scene.
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  • digitalpulse
    digitalpulse Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    _Nettuno_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    Hello, the title say everything: i would like to know if the seeker is good in TW, and if can be better than a psy :)

    Seekers do not suck at TW but at the moment seekers are not shining in TW and are not better than a psychic in TW.

    However, with rank 9, I believe seekers have the potential to be on par or even surpass rank 9 archers. I'm not so sure about wizards and psychics as rank 9 has yet to be unlocked for the Earthguards. Only time will tell. b:pleased
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Vorbane - Harshlands wrote: »
    P.S Take the information you get from PvE server players with a grain of salt, as PvP servers generally have a different (read: more intense, more skilled players) TW scene.

    lol that is not true at all it has been proven tons of times that people on pve servers are better at TW dont ask me why becus i have no clue and i do not wnt to look up those ancient threadsb:chuckle
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  • mtdewking
    mtdewking Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    From personal experince, and same with any DD/Tank class, Seekers need buffs before they can really get into some fights. 100 Demon Seeker with R8+5 myself and when i have buffs, its pretty easy to take on any class.

    On another note(tip for seekers), i see alot of seekers spamming vortex in duels or when closed in on multiple enemies....NO, use Edged Blur, the attack is may do less damage but the enemy wont be able to heal in time. And another thing i see.. a seeker vortexing against spell caster or archers...why, all they have to do is move and your still wrapped up spinning while they are pew-pewing you from distance.

    In TW, Edge Blur>Vortex unless you corner the area with other seekers leaving no where to run.

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