Am I on the right path?

XMakoto - Dreamweaver

Ok, I know there have been threads like this before. But I'm wondering if I'm heading in the right direction, and if I should change things up a little bit. Before playing this wizard I was a lv69 psychic (*gasp*), and it feels much slower xD. I'm also wondering when it is wizards jump ahead of psychics in terms of DPH, because atm I'm 4 shotting things a level or 2 under me, and both chars have a similar build.

My Gear: http://pwcalc.com/7210f7d05c2808de (Including lv9 Stone Barrier and lv1 Wellspring Quaff)

So in the beginning I used the hybrid build (1 str 2 vit 7 mag), and at lv49 I stopped adding vit and changed to a pure magic build, and i'll probably continue it.

My one concern is that I'm still using my rank 1 gear since i imbued lots of garnet shards on them.

..and the skills I plan to continue leveling (unless they're already lv10)
Pyrogram lv10
Gush lv10
Stone Rain lv10
Stone Barrier lv9
Divine Pyrogram lv5
Morning Dew lv3
The Dragon's Breath lv2
Will of the Pheonix lv1
Sandstorm lv1
Glacial Snare lv1
Essential Sutra
Blade Tempest
Black Ice Dragon Strike
(Not sure about Mountain's Seize for now)

Im not really worried about the lv79-100 skills for now, but i'll get them when that time comes.

Thankyou for reading b:thanks

Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear

1. WE OUTDAMAGE PSYS??? b:question
Actually, we probably do at somepoint, but psys cast too fast with spells that are decently close to wiz spells damage-wise (at least with black vodoo), that it dosen't really matter.
As far as endgame goes, I don't know.

2. Who cares about DPH anymore?
3. R9 +12

Adroit - Lost City

I wouldn't put any more vit in than you already have, and just focus on leveling. You'll have all the skills maxed eventually, so I wouldn't really worry too much about the order, just get the ones you like for now. You'll start out DPHing psychics when you get undine and genie spark, so probably like level 79ish.

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear

my wizard's level 51, so pretty close to yours. she's got some vit, but nowhere near as much as you; i stopped adding vit much earlier, think i have 20 or so points in that. she's wielding a wheel of fate +2 with one shard in it. with that build i can 3- or 4-shot mobs my own level or slightly above, so roughly what you're describing for mobs slightly below your level.

oh, and i'm an insanely (seriously, way out on the tail of the bell curve) slow leveler; all my elemental masteries are maxed for my level, and so are my main attack skills.

if i were you i'd get better armor and not worry too much about the garnets. commons and averages aren't that big of a deal. see if you can get a better weapon, or maybe +1 a good phys def ornament. put another level into will of the phoenix, it's what keeps melee physical mobs from even scratching you.

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver

If you dont want to lvl up fast I would suggest to get sandstorm up because it is good to have 1 hard hitting opening skill when you kill mobs.

In the end you will replace sandstorm with glacial snare but since glacial snare is useless when it is not maxed ( less reliable than gush for slow then and dmg isnt so much higher with lower lvl weapons) and sandstorm is cheaper go for it. I also suggest to stop leveling divine pyro because unless you use it in sutra combos ( and with spark 4 pvp) you will hardly use it for lvling.

When it comes to the Ultis I really love mountain seize in terms of pve because it allowes you to stun the mobs and cast a hailstorm and a will of phoenix afterwards without taking dmg.
Also in some instances where the mobs have annoying aoes like bishops in FC or feligar in abaddon the stun time is nice. Even if BIDS is real cool I have to admit that I only started using it more since I got it sage.

I also suggest to lvl glacial embrace when you are grinding mobs the mp recovery is nice and it is relatively cheap compared to other skills.

@Tsuyoginos: you are absolutely right about the dmg but as far as I have notice many wizards go for r9 and try to get as many extra +att lvls as possible to be able to have enough power to still 1 shot. But the prob is a psy can also shard att lvls ( most prefer to go for +def lvls to become nearly invincible in white voodoo but anyway) so it is a piece of cake for psy to aoe groups of people in TW because they hit 3 of their aoes during the time the wiz can do 1 ulti + hailstorm

greetz harm0wnie

Adroit - Lost City

I'm getting tired of hearing that psychics out damage us. They don't. Maybe in dps (when we don't sutra) but our debuffs give us much better dph (the type of damage that actually matters for mages) And no, we aren't talking about pve.. because lets face it, mages just don't belong in end game pve.

/Groovy/ - Harshlands

Not bad overall, just a few things I noticed:

1. Lack of Force of Will on your "to-level" list. It's quite expensive skill on your level but combined with Gush and Will of Phoenix they make an important trio for solo grinding. It's also a "cleric saver" if you do instances in groups.

2. You will want to restat that Vitality to Magic at some point, but I would wait with that until 90+ or even later.

3. It's too early to focus too much on gears at this point, you will change it quite often. I'd suggest you keep what have right now and save money for bigger upgrade at lvl 60 - get TT60 weapon, some mold or 3* armors with pdef or hp addons, refine them to +2 with mirages (cheap as hell even for lower levels) and you will be set for next 10 levels.



Glad there are new players choosing wizards even now.

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

I'm getting tired of hearing that psychics out damage us. They don't. Maybe in dps (when we don't sutra) but our debuffs give us much better dph (the type of damage that actually matters for mages) And no, we aren't talking about pve.. because lets face it, mages just don't belong in end game pve.

To avoid starting the same discussion over here again (because we got different understandings in how to measure the dmg output) I just agree to DPH is what applies to SAGE mages. Maybe I should take the "wizard in PvE part of the new wiz guide " because I am still looking for new applications for the wiz in PvE

greetz harm0wnie

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

1. Lack of Force of Will on your "to-level" list. It's quite expensive skill on your level but combined with Gush and Will of Phoenix they make an important trio for solo grinding. It's also a "cleric saver" if you do instances in groups.

question for knowledgeable wizards: how high does my force of will level need to be before it turns out useful? i recently got level 1 of it on my wizard alt, tried it out, and kicked myself hard for spending the spirit --- it took forever to channel, threw on a stun that lasted much less time than the skill took to channel, and did no damage. how are you guys getting any practical use out of that?

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »

question for knowledgeable wizards: how high does my force of will level need to be before it turns out useful? i recently got level 1 of it on my wizard alt, tried it out, and kicked myself hard for spending the spirit --- it took forever to channel, threw on a stun that lasted much less time than the skill took to channel, and did no damage. how are you guys getting any practical use out of that?

the higher the level the better it gets. At level one it is fairly useless since the cast time is nearly as long as the effect lasts.

It's good in PvE because it causes mobs to run away from you, which makes your job in kiting much much easier. Couple it with gush and Will of Phoenix and a mob will never touch you again.

In PvP it's important because it keeps your opponent from using any skills momentarily, which is good if you need a second to undine them and maybe hit them with a poke skill.

thumbs

Adroit - Lost City wrote: »

I'm getting tired of hearing that psychics out damage us. They don't. Maybe in dps (when we don't sutra) but our debuffs give us much better dph (the type of damage that actually matters for mages) And no, we aren't talking about pve.. because lets face it, mages just don't belong in end game pve.

Our debuffs matter more when we're in groups, not so much alone.

Wizards are great for pve. Nirvana isn't the only pve out there. You might be surprised how lousy full melee squads are in BH Metal.

For reference; I have a 4 aps +10 sage assassin.