Same mistake twice?

zbzkda

TBH I agree with the OP's point about the pointlessness of attacking any faction other than Cata right now. If you get a land by pushing Omerta off the map, or stacking Insanity, etc all that will happen is that you'll lose it soon either to Cata or to someone else.

HOWEVER, if you get on the map by having won a stack on Cata, the difference is that you'd be beginning to erode Cata even if by a little. If people stack Cata the way they stacked Insanity, and they manage to grab land, then Cata's advance will be delayed. Their recruitment drive will be put on hold. And that is what will make the difference. Cata's ability to increase its numbers and glean the best of the server depends on its ability to prove that it will win in TW and it current land count.

At the very least, if their land procurement begins to slow down, then their mass recruitment phase may be stunted a bit. That way you don't have them growing stronger as you watch them storm by you. As more stacks occur, their firepower will remain basically the same until the stacks become increased in effectiveness and then cata begins to be less intimidating.

Taking land anywhere else right now is a waste since you'll only lose it later if you don't get other factions to stack with you. The current situation requires a head on approach imho.

Ligeia - Harshlands

zbzkda wrote: »

HOWEVER, if you get on the map by having won a stack on Cata, the difference is that you'd be beginning to erode Cata even if by a little. If people stack Cata the way they stacked Insanity, and they manage to grab land, then Cata's advance will be delayed. Their recruitment drive will be put on hold. And that is what will make the difference. Cata's ability to increase its numbers and glean the best of the server depends on its ability to prove that it will win in TW and it current land count.

If you don't understand why everything here is completely stupid, you shouldn't be talking about TW at all.

Catalyst has the worst TW's on the server right now. They'd love a good gank. You do realize that they beat Valhalla with less than 60 people, right? You know, the war the whole server was waiting for and Catalyst's most challenging TW so far, and they couldn't even fill the instance. And their recruitment? Go post an application on their forums and see what happens.


Unless this is a troll post. In that case, 10/10.

Curses - Harshlands

I LoL'd. It's threads like these that make being the strongest guild entertaining.

Rhyme - Harshlands

Being the strongest guild on PWI is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

Irae - Harshlands

Rhyme - Harshlands wrote: »

Being the strongest guild on PWI is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

What does that say about the people who don't play the game but just lurk on the forums?

Are they like the kids who didn't even make the cut for the Special Olympics team?

Rhyme - Harshlands

Irae - Harshlands wrote: »

What does that say about the people who don't play the game but just lurk on the forums?

Are they like the kids who didn't even make the cut for the Special Olympics team?

Who said I didn't play PW? I may not play Rhyme anymore but I have plenty of sins and archers to play as.

zbzkda

Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »

If you don't understand why everything here is completely stupid, you shouldn't be talking about TW at all.

Catalyst has the worst TW's on the server right now. They'd love a good gank. You do realize that they beat Valhalla with less than 60 people, right? You know, the war the whole server was waiting for and Catalyst's most challenging TW so far, and they couldn't even fill the instance. And their recruitment? Go post an application on their forums and see what happens.


Unless this is a troll post. In that case, 10/10.

The point was lost in the wording but: when I referred to their "recruitment drive", I meant that influx of strong people who join the faction as it grows stronger and gains a huge amount of land, . I do not know when they will start active recruitment, or if they will at all, but once they start getting that momentum, and they have all the server's best applying to them and their recruitment is open that is when beyond a doubt, there is probably no stopping them.

So re-examining your response:

Catalyst has the worst TW's on the server right now. They'd love a good gank.

I was very actively talking about ganking them, whether or not they actually want it isn't important: my point was that systematically attacking Catalyst and trying to weaken it if possible is the only "correct" way to take land and hold it right now. Otherwise you'll only lose it soon afterward, and:

And their recruitment? Go post an application on their forums and see what happens.

To allow you to see that I didn't mean their "recruitment drive" at present and that I indeed meant the big stream of people who would join as they gain map domination:

zbzkda wrote:

If people stack Cata the way they stacked Insanity, and they manage to grab land, then Cata's advance will be delayed. Their recruitment drive will be put on hold.

I already know they currently aren't recruiting. It was probably lost in the wording, but the "recruitment drive" I was referring to was nothing but that influx of people who would want to join the strongest guild on the server, and naturally, Catalyst always only takes the best geared applicants, so that time when they do eventually enter open recruitment, if they do, is going to be the time when it'll be most difficult to beat them. IMHO, stacking NOW is the best way to try to take them.

Hope that cleared up any misunderstandings of the first post. Mostly what I was saying was: "If you wanna get land and keep it, organize other guild leaders and stack cata, and stop trying to grab small patches of land.".

Rhyme - Harshlands

zbzkda wrote: »

The point was lost in the wording but: when I referred to their "recruitment drive", I meant that influx of strong people who join the faction as it grows stronger and gains a huge amount of land, . I do not know when they will start active recruitment, or if they will at all, but once they start getting that momentum, and they have all the server's best applying to them and their recruitment is open that is when beyond a doubt, there is probably no stopping them.

So re-examining your response:

I was very actively talking about ganking them, whether or not they actually want it isn't important: my point was that systematically attacking Catalyst and trying to weaken it if possible is the only "correct" way to take land and hold it right now. Otherwise you'll only lose it soon afterward, and:


To allow you to see that I didn't mean their "recruitment drive" at present and that I indeed meant the big stream of people who would join as they gain map domination:




I already know they currently aren't recruiting. It was probably lost in the wording, but the "recruitment drive" I was referring to was nothing but that influx of people who would want to join the strongest guild on the server, and naturally, Catalyst always only takes the best geared applicants, so that time when they do eventually enter open recruitment, if they do, is going to be the time when it'll be most difficult to beat them. IMHO, stacking NOW is the best way to try to take them.

Hope that cleared up any misunderstandings of the first post. Mostly what I was saying was: "If you wanna get land and keep it, organize other guild leaders and stack cata, and stop trying to grab small patches of land.".

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Eoria - Harshlands

zbzkda wrote: »

I already know they currently aren't recruiting.

Applications have been open again since late June. Since then, we've accepted four people and denied twenty-two (including Kywe, lololol). ijs.

Halt - Harshlands

zbzkda wrote: »

The point was lost in the wording but: when I referred to their "recruitment drive", I meant that influx of strong people who join the faction as it grows stronger and gains a huge amount of land, . I do not know when they will start active recruitment, or if they will at all, but once they start getting that momentum, and they have all the server's best applying to them and their recruitment is open that is when beyond a doubt, there is probably no stopping them.

So re-examining your response:

I was very actively talking about ganking them, whether or not they actually want it isn't important: my point was that systematically attacking Catalyst and trying to weaken it if possible is the only "correct" way to take land and hold it right now. Otherwise you'll only lose it soon afterward, and:


To allow you to see that I didn't mean their "recruitment drive" at present and that I indeed meant the big stream of people who would join as they gain map domination:



I already know they currently aren't recruiting. It was probably lost in the wording, but the "recruitment drive" I was referring to was nothing but that influx of people who would want to join the strongest guild on the server, and naturally, Catalyst always only takes the best geared applicants, so that time when they do eventually enter open recruitment, if they do, is going to be the time when it'll be most difficult to beat them. IMHO, stacking NOW is the best way to try to take them.

Hope that cleared up any misunderstandings of the first post. Mostly what I was saying was: "If you wanna get land and keep it, organize other guild leaders and stack cata, and stop trying to grab small patches of land.".

http://catalyst.forumotions.com/f1-applications

Which one was yours?

zbzkda

I'm not gonna apply to catalyst in the near future: I like the friends I have in the guild where I currently am. Why did you assume I ever applied to Catalyst? I used to very actively patrol their applications page though, and the old Zulu one because I learned a lot about gear from looking at the PwCalc links the applicants gave. Recently they've stopped allowing non-members to actually see the full applications, so I basically have no reason to go to their site anymore.

negativereaction

Rhyme - Harshlands wrote: »

Being the strongest guild on Harshlands is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

edit for truth

i do enjoy the chatter about who's shielding whom. personally i'm putting on my flame shield so g12 fire shards can't touch me.