AoE grinding Cleric or BM?

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lizrau

BM. Reason? Too obvious. And I'm too lazy to tell you why, just trust me... xD

Elanxu - Dreamweaver

never really sat down and focused on grinding with bms, but clerics seem to be incredibly easy to aoe the spiders once ur lvl90s and in the harshlands area. they do posion dot.

Cyb_kairu - Sanctuary

well i have both 90+ bm and 100+ cleric. in places like OVS, a cleric needs certain things to out do a bm *namely +8 or higher wep to 2 shot them R8 wep that is* while bm needs bloodpaint or a lot of hp food/pots unless their rather well geared.

early game - cleric *bm don't have enough AoE's and early 40's can do 2-3 mobs at once if done properly, but cleric can start to AoE those 6 legged spiders in mid 30's and well. 40-50's they can AoE vipons

mid game - still cleric, most 50-80's mobs are heavy magic *lvl 78 pirates starting around 73-75 if your good, but clerics also have the petalli's *73's and some high 60's too if i recall* that are candy. then the 93's are next on the AoE list so they loose out on upper 70's low-mid 80's where bm's excel the most *second only to OVS* but 90's bm's don't really have much other then OVS that's worth mentioning *OVS = old valley of the scarred/sacred been to long 3rd OHT map* so i say cleric via personal experience. though with cleric it takes a bit better timing

bm AoE = tank and spank take a beating and unleash axe AoE's *maby diamond sutra if you really need it*

cleric AoE = heal + puri tank + razor/temp/sirens kiss kill

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

BM. Definitely.
As pointed out, level does really matter but...

Clerics do great aoe grinding against wood creatures that stay ranged, which are not hard to find but limited. They are a magic class that has metal attacks and can heal/purify against a poison before it builds up. Clerics have 3 shields, but as far as DD they have Razor Feathers (8 second cooldown),Siren's Kiss (15 second cooldown, 1 spark), and Tempest (5.5 second channeling, 2 sparks).

BM's go and get bloodpaint and find physical mobs which are alot easier to find. They have physical marrows, 9 aoes (Highland Cleave, Cyclone Heel, Drake's Sweep, Fissure, Myriad Sword Stance, Heaven's Flame, Glacial Spike, Bolt of Tyreseus, and if demon Shadowless Kick) about 5 more frontal aoes, an aoe stun, an aoe 50% pdef/mdef debuff, an aoe that can reduce opponents attack damage,and of course HF that doubles their damage. No stopping to heal is needed but if so they have Diamond Sutra.

How is this a competition?

_Nei_ - Sanctuary

Can't tell you about a BM I never played one but as cleric I can solo AOE grind magical mobs with purify + heal + Aoe skills.
You need to have 2 sparks for tempest on mobs or spam Razor and heal+purify or gather more mobs while the razor coldown is over to cast it again. Siren works but you need a spark and be enought close to cast it on mobs.
Do I love to grind at Frozen lands those aracneids lv98 or so.

thumbs

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

BM. Definitely.
As pointed out, level does really matter but...

Clerics do great aoe grinding against wood creatures that stay ranged, which are not hard to find but limited. They are a magic class that has metal attacks and can heal/purify against a poison before it builds up. Clerics have 3 shields, but as far as DD they have Razor Feathers (8 second cooldown),Siren's Kiss (15 second cooldown, 1 spark), and Tempest (5.5 second channeling, 2 sparks).

Razor Feathers is physical. CD's are impertinent if mobs are 2- shot kills (as someone mentioned above), and you're waiting for all mobs in area to re-spawn.

BM's go and get bloodpaint and find physical mobs which are alot easier to find.

-Gets to be a pain. If it takes 10m of your time to get the buff and go back to area; it's taking s wopping 1/6 of your grinding time. -This is one reason why I grind more on my veno than Assassin even when I have a Cleric on alt box for buffs. Veno also has self purify and can 1-2 shot whordes of [?] mobs w/o even getting hit btw.

They have physical marrows, 9 aoes (Highland Cleave, Cyclone Heel, Drake's Sweep, Fissure, Myriad Sword Stance, Heaven's Flame, Glacial Spike, Bolt of Tyreseus, and if demon Shadowless Kick) about 5 more frontal aoes, an aoe stun, an aoe 50% pdef/mdef debuff, an aoe that can reduce opponents attack damage,and of course HF that doubles their damage. No stopping to heal is needed but if so they have Diamond Sutra.

I prefer 1-2 shot grinding. 9 aoes would be over kill on a cleric. I fail to see the point here. So cleric may heal or do other things instead of stun if it takes more shots.

Personally I think in most cases either of these classes should team up with others for grinding.

Decus - Dreamweaver

thumbs wrote: »

...CD's are impertinent...

Neato, never knew that word could be used that way.

Though I suppose logic would imply it. I guess I am just an old speaker.


On topic: I prever AoE grinding on a BM. Much more fun and it goes by much faster, imo. Also, there's more variety of attacks, which is more entertaining than Cleric AoE'ing. Still, either is viable as an option. Once you get to higher levels, you can AoE grind places like OVS (or OUF if you're a veno or like taking ages to grind).

Hiemus - Raging Tide

I like aoe grinding poison mobs on cleric because the only repair bill will be on the weapon.

Kairu_ - Sanctuary

as competition eh. i 2 shot most groups pulled, heck now that I'm 100 the spiders are 1 shots and not even a pure cleric *or sage who's temp hits harder due to much higher mastry*, the chi for 1 temp > 1 razor *maby 1 sirens kiss if i'm in OVS razor > siren > razor with 1-2 heals between on a pull with no tempest, higher then+5 refine just siren > razor will be enough*. i can't pull as fast as a bm *same issues with loosing agro over x distance or time which in ovs is neglagible it's the same for all*. but pulling severely large groups is easy as pie, IH every now and then while flying to keep mobs agro on you, and easy chi build + survival. stop in a corner or poison immy and fly 2 circles around em *only half to do this at spiders which i don't grind anymore* and 1-2 shot em *3 shots in terms of OVS since chi is used for sirens kiss + plume shell, razor AoE, some IH to pass the time till about 4 seconds pass so 2 IH, walk 1-2 steps and sirens kiss immobilizing most, then razor *if you razor 1st good chance it'll be interrupted without good -channel*

genie = chi as well, and holypath if you wanna get distance > razor when AoEing mele mobs which is very possible if your good enough. i say cleric hands down, yes bm is funner to do it with because skill variety, but 1-3 shotting *1-2 average mobs* and never dying + relying only on self rather then somebody elses' paint, why not just play a seeker then, 1 seeker in perma zhen + 1 sin on a mount to pull + provide paint = deadly tag team, never ending grind lol. same with bm + sin too, or cleric + anybody