2 Billion coins : Which would you pick?

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  • IBaMBii - Heavens Tear
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    post above ^

    ..then you obviously haven't met a good R9 barb play in pk.. b:chuckle
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  • Crescendia - Harshlands
    Crescendia - Harshlands Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I think a mystic would be interesting as R9. So i voted mystic xD
    Originally Posted by Curses - Harshlands

    Sidenote: hilarious name for a boat: "Yeah Buoy".

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  • zbzkda
    zbzkda Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I want to change my vote to Veno :/
















    Or to Assassin just to troll XD
    I seriously wonder: people who don't RPK, if you play the board game "Sorry!" and you roll the dice so that you land on an opponents piece and send it back to the beginning, do you sincerely apologize and ask everyone if you can have a do-over roll so you can give your victim another chance? It's a god damn game..

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  • Michael - Harshlands
    Michael - Harshlands Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Voted BM because despite popular opinion I still love my bm for TW, pvp and pve. I will admit to be a decent BM you dont need 2 billion coin of gear. Although honestly I dont even know how many coins I have put into gear now
  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Demon Psychic??

    Is this a joke?

    Eh, apparently demon is pretty viable on psy once you get a certain amount of refines for various reasons. I am not an advocate for demon psychic...

    I voted mystic, but honestly I wouldn't go r9 even if I had the money cause then I'd be so OP may as well just roll a sin .-.
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  • Garaver - Harshlands
    Garaver - Harshlands Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Okopogo - Harshlands wrote: »
    I would buy a lot of hamburgers.

    This

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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »
    Eh, apparently demon is pretty viable on psy once you get a certain amount of refines for various reasons. I am not an advocate for demon psychic...

    I voted mystic, but honestly I wouldn't go r9 even if I had the money cause then I'd be so OP may as well just roll a sin .-.

    If they took out Jones blessing mystics would be more OP. I've noticed there seems to be a .5 second window where you're almost immune to 1-shots while getting the heal effect from BiTC. It's similar to how a properly stacked Ironheart can sometimes let you take more damage than you have in HP, due to server lag (server fails).

    Also I think 40% seal chance from Demon soul of silence would just be too funny...with a 7 second charm cooldown time you basically have less than 4 seconds to kill them before another charm tick, and then you get sealed again...
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  • linkism
    linkism Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    RedBetty - Harshlands wrote: »
    2 billion isnt much nowadays.
    you cant do anything with it.
    shards for the armor alone is already half of it..now get the gear + decent refine o0

    and stop braging about your so called (with a 1000 real dollar input started) merchanting skills, we both know that mine are/were better :D ask Propsi <3

    Good merchants don't constantly get ***** by the weekly sales... thats usually where we make our money.. ^^
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »
    Eh, apparently demon is pretty viable on psy once you get a certain amount of refines for various reasons. I am not an advocate for demon psychic...

    Your silence is only 3 seconds compared to a sage's 5 (for me, the 3 seconds felt more like 1-2, the 5 is huge), you can't purify, your physical resistance is only 8 seconds, your soulburn is shorter, you're chi challenged, your charm buff/debuff is inferior, your two best demon skills require two sparks or for you to be incredibly close to your target, and you'd eat MP like friggin CRAZY.
    And what's the benefit in return? You have two skills that increase your crit chance temporarily. One requires you to be super close to your target to cast, then it has a 30% chance to increase your crit rate by 50% for 4 seconds. So great. If an opponent is closer than I'd like them to be, I have a 30% chance of having another 50% chance of critting on the next hit. The other is a more reliable 15 second 20% increase, but it costs two sparks; two sparks you'd much rather use to stun or save your life. And the ~7% extra chance of silence? As I said, the difference between the 3 second demon silence and the 5 second sage silence feels more like 1-2 seconds vs. 5 seconds. 3 seconds is enough for a fellow Psychic to basically skip casting one spell, then they continue. 5 seconds on the other hand is quite large. 5 seconds will break you out of a sin/BM stunlock, 3 seconds usually won't.

    I pulled cata for CrimsonJr and it was amazing how quickly my MP was eaten by my Psy skills when I was getting shot at. It made me wanna pay for the stupid overpriced sage Soul of Vengeance. A demon Psy doesn't have this option, and the increased soul of silence rate means they'd eat MP like mad. I'd be willing to bet that a 5aps BM or sin could just ironguard and melee the balls out of a demon Psy, depleting it's MP pool, charmed or not, before the ironguard ends, giving them a small window to attack the Psy without any reflects or silences going off. Yes a good player would run, react, Psy will or MP pot, but I'm just making a point about how sick that MP loss would be.

    The reason demon on Psy is "viable once you get decent refines" is because you've got decent refines. A Psychic with +12 gear is like Superman. Making said Psychic go demon is like dipping Superman in a pile of horse *****. Yeah he smells bad, but he's still Superman.

    But sure, ok, go make demon Psys.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • GhostDuck - Harshlands
    GhostDuck - Harshlands Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Your silence is only 3 seconds compared to a sage's 5 (for me, the 3 seconds felt more like 1-2, the 5 is huge), you can't purify, your physical resistance is only 8 seconds, your soulburn is shorter, you're chi challenged, your charm buff/debuff is inferior, your two best demon skills require two sparks or for you to be incredibly close to your target, and you'd eat MP like friggin CRAZY.
    And what's the benefit in return? You have two skills that increase your crit chance temporarily. One requires you to be super close to your target to cast, then it has a 30% chance to increase your crit rate by 50% for 4 seconds. So great. If an opponent is closer than I'd like them to be, I have a 30% chance of having another 50% chance of critting on the next hit. The other is a more reliable 15 second 20% increase, but it costs two sparks; two sparks you'd much rather use to stun or save your life. And the ~7% extra chance of silence? As I said, the difference between the 3 second demon silence and the 5 second sage silence feels more like 1-2 seconds vs. 5 seconds. 3 seconds is enough for a fellow Psychic to basically skip casting one spell, then they continue. 5 seconds on the other hand is quite large. 5 seconds will break you out of a sin/BM stunlock, 3 seconds usually won't.

    I pulled cata for CrimsonJr and it was amazing how quickly my MP was eaten by my Psy skills when I was getting shot at. It made me wanna pay for the stupid overpriced sage Soul of Vengeance. A demon Psy doesn't have this option, and the increased soul of silence rate means they'd eat MP like mad. I'd be willing to bet that a 5aps BM or sin could just ironguard and melee the balls out of a demon Psy, depleting it's MP pool, charmed or not, before the ironguard ends, giving them a small window to attack the Psy without any reflects or silences going off. Yes a good player would run, react, Psy will or MP pot, but I'm just making a point about how sick that MP loss would be.

    The reason demon on Psy is "viable once you get decent refines" is because you've got decent refines. A Psychic with +12 gear is like Superman. Making said Psychic go demon is like dipping Superman in a pile of horse *****. Yeah he smells bad, but he's still Superman.

    But sure, ok, go make demon Psys.

    Hilarious,

    I voted Psy, and i just assume if this happened with the coin i went sage
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The best comparison I can think of for a demon Psy's best skills is if the demon effect of the BM sword ulti gave an additional 50% crit for 6 seconds. Yeah sure, that's great and all, but I've got better **** to waste my chi on. Never see myself realistically using it.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • Nyxyo - Harshlands
    Nyxyo - Harshlands Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    any rank 9 is OP ..no matter class really...but from all i would like to make a psy...duno if sage or demon really.....i don't care what rank9 i fight.... archer ..wizzy...barbar...bm...but attacking rank9 psi still seem suicide to me lol....they got some amazing defensive skills and the dmg is ..well...rank9 dmg lolb:laugh
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Nyxyo - Harshlands wrote: »
    any rank 9 is OP ..no matter class really...but from all i would like to make a psy...duno if sage or demon really.....i don't care what rank9 i fight.... archer ..wizzy...barbar...bm...but attacking rank9 psi still seem suicide to me lol....they got some amazing defensive skills and the dmg is ..well...rank9 dmg lolb:laugh

    Double spark and ironguard?
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  • Hellsarcher - Harshlands
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »
    Double spark and ironguard?

    psy resist + ad...easy counter
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »
    psy resist + ad...easy counter

    Don't be stupid. R9 dags cut through AD.
  • Rhyme - Harshlands
    Rhyme - Harshlands Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hellsarcher giving PvP advice is like shoelace giving battery lessons.
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »
    psy resist + ad...easy counter

    Double spark + Ironguard the first time, force stealth, his will/AD is now on CD but he can't see you, double spark again, use lawbreaker/AD this time around and double click on his char
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  • Rhyme - Harshlands
    Rhyme - Harshlands Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Veno is the most voted for option. Burnout tried excluding it with his right wing agenda but he wont stop us!
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Rhyme - Harshlands wrote: »
    Veno is the most voted for option. Burnout tried excluding it with his right wing agenda but he wont stop us!

    Venomancer and BM have a default -10 votes, so actually veno is at -1. Mystic gets a default 10 votes, so actually it's winning with 13 votes, with wizard not far behind at 9.

    The post ends here so stop reading my post and skip to the next post. b:byeb:byeb:bye














    This was all stated in the fine print right below the poll, not my fault none of you guys ever read that stuff.
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    20k crit wiz? o.O
    I only have R8+10 and I can do 18k...
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    20k crit wiz? o.O
    I only have R8+10 and I can do 18k...

    Ok, if we're talking about maximum hits then obviously under dragons, crits, extreme poison, on a person with phy. def orns BIDS can hit for an obscene amount.

    But I am referring to an average hit on a similarly geared person, so BIDS against a R9 fully JoSD sharded opponent would hit for a much lower number.

    Just consider the standard "vanilla" BIDS on a fully buffed R9 archer without undine debuff:

    [[(1.25 * 1.17) * (21000 + (5*2950) + 13955)]*.3)]/4.

    5452 non crit, 10800 crit, 21k under dragons amp, which would be enough to one-shot a fully-buffed R9 JoSD archer at full hp. This is without undine, too.

    Tell me a psy, demon or sage, that can accomplish that even half as often as a Sage R9 mage :p.
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ok, if we're talking about maximum hits then obviously under dragons, crits, extreme poison, on a person with phy. def orns BIDS can hit for an obscene amount.

    But I am referring to an average hit on a similarly geared person, so BIDS against a R9 fully JoSD sharded opponent would hit for a much lower number.

    Just consider the standard "vanilla" BIDS on a fully buffed R9 archer without undine debuff:

    [[(1.25 * 1.17) * (21000 + (5*2950) + 13955)]*.3)]/4.

    5452 non crit, 10800 crit, 21k under dragons amp, which would be enough to one-shot a fully-buffed R9 JoSD archer at full hp. This is without undine, too.

    Tell me a psy, demon or sage, that can accomplish that even half as often as a Sage R9 mage :p.

    I prefer wiz than psy too b:victory
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  • Zenorx - Harshlands
    Zenorx - Harshlands Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I think this wins

    http://pwcalc.com/df3b85267ef56864

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