So yeah...need a little advice.

Eoria - Harshlands

Please read through all of this. Please also keep in mind that I am very defense and support oriented for TW/PVP. So don't suggest **** like restating all of my vit out (at least not until my gear's all done anyway) or getting chan cape/ornas. There's a lot of links too.

This is my current gear: http://pwcalc.com/a1cc8e45891a2f0f

This will be my gear once I get event gold and one more 10 star: http://pwcalc.com/e3c440dd9c74075e

My next immediate goal will be +7ing the wep/neck/belt. http://pwcalc.com/d22952f0580487f6 Wep will be left at +7 until the rest of the gear is done unless I do as stated in 1.

And here is where I'm failing...

1. One of the things suggested to me by a friend of mine was restating to pure vit and +10ing wep. The restat would probably just be until I got my gear up more and then I'd restat it back down to 100 like it is now. So that'd basically end up like this: http://pwcalc.com/95a0c062ce4a7559

2. Cape... Initially, regardless of whether or not I went r9 or Nirvy, I was going to get a Nirvana cape for the complect. Thing is, clerics really don't need atk levels and only +3 def levels is kinda ehh when you think of the money spent on it. Instead, I was thinking of getting a Cloudcharger which ends up being much cheaper, has overall better add-ons for what I'm looking for, and always comes out 4soc. This: http://pwcalc.com/c5a0ca659cb1bde7 Of course, then we come to the problem that there's a Cloudcharger 2.0 out on CN, but uhh... -.-;;

3. And now here's my biggest dilemma... I honestly cannot decide on whether to go r9 or Nirvy. I have my pros and cons for both. In favor of r9, it is overall cheaper than Nirvana (if you leave out the wep anyway), always comes out 4soc, has the better add-ons for what I want out of my cleric, and has a much better complect than Nirvana (especially if I can manage to get the r9 belt too). However, I can't account stash it at all if I happen to want to make a different magic class and then I have the big problem being that you have to get the ring first which basically leaves the other gear to the wayside for awhile. In favor of Nirvy, I can account stash it and even sell it since I'd be going with Lunar Nirvana which isn't auto-bound. But yeah, it's not as good as r9 and more expensive overall. I should probably also mention that I already did out the 1st recast pants last 2x when the future availability of medals was uncertain (okay, not that uncertain and I was pretty ****ing stupid on that account). I can sell them to get money for r9, but I dunno who'd be interested. They came out 4soc, but I probably wouldn't waste the money on chienkuning it since the probability that they'll come out at least 3soc is high.

4. In continuing with that last note, a rather big part of me just kinda wants to do this: http://pwcalc.com/88be28bb17f1ec29 And say **** it to this game. Lol.

P.S. Perfects used as sorta long-term placeholder shards since sharding would be the very last thing I would do to my gear.

Jellytoast - Sanctuary

Well personally, I'm already half done with my second cast nirvana stuff. I've got a wizard already 9x, and 2 other magic classes I'm bringing up soon. Account stashing the nirvana is the best option for me personally. Though I MAY go r9 on my cleric later, just depends.

But I'd say go with wings of cloudcharger. When I upgraded from my lunar cape to that, my defense shot up quite a bit.
Also, I personally wouldn't +10 r8. I've got r8 until I get my second cast nirvana glaive, which is on par with r9 for the magic stat.

Here's what I'm hoping for as far as nirvana: http://pwcalc.com/3e9e28582c79e62a

__Astarte__ - Dreamweaver

Jellytoast - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well personally, I'm already half done with my second cast nirvana stuff. I've got a wizard already 9x, and 2 other magic classes I'm bringing up soon. Account stashing the nirvana is the best option for me personally. Though I MAY go r9 on my cleric later, just depends.

But I'd say go with wings of cloudcharger. When I upgraded from my lunar cape to that, my defense shot up quite a bit.
Also, I personally wouldn't +10 r8. I've got r8 until I get my second cast nirvana glaive, which is on par with r9 for the magic stat.

Here's what I'm hoping for as far as nirvana: http://pwcalc.com/3e9e28582c79e62a

I thought -6% channeling was a unique add and couldn't exist alongside the 20 attack level boost. =O

Eoria - Harshlands

Jellytoast - Sanctuary wrote: »

Also, I personally wouldn't +10 r8. I've got r8 until I get my second cast nirvana glaive, which is on par with r9 for the magic stat.

r8 will be my end-game wep. It's enough for me and for what I want to do. The money spent on a better wep would be better used on my armor.

Ashivas - Dreamweaver

Jellytoast - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well personally, I'm already half done with my second cast nirvana stuff. I've got a wizard already 9x, and 2 other magic classes I'm bringing up soon. Account stashing the nirvana is the best option for me personally. Though I MAY go r9 on my cleric later, just depends.

But I'd say go with wings of cloudcharger. When I upgraded from my lunar cape to that, my defense shot up quite a bit.
Also, I personally wouldn't +10 r8. I've got r8 until I get my second cast nirvana glaive, which is on par with r9 for the magic stat.

Here's what I'm hoping for as far as nirvana: http://pwcalc.com/3e9e28582c79e62a

Just thought I'd point out you cant get -6% and +20 atk level at once, they're both unique addons. You can get -3% though.

Jellytoast - Sanctuary

Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Just thought I'd point out you cant get -6% and +20 atk level at once, they're both unique addons. You can get -3% though.

I know, that was an old calc I tweaked a bit. Was messing around with impossible stuff. Forgot to even look at the weapon adds, that wasn't really related to why I was posting it.

Decus - Dreamweaver

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

And here is where I'm failing...

1. One of the things suggested to me by a friend of mine was restating to pure vit and +10ing wep. The restat would probably just be until I got my gear up more and then I'd restat it back down to 100 like it is now. So that'd basically end up like this: http://pwcalc.com/95a0c062ce4a7559

That is more of a personal choice. I never statted more than 20 vit. You could bump up some armor refines and keep the weap at +7. In the end, after I played with it a bit, the HP is 500 less than the 161 vit variant and you keep a similar mattk to the +10 weap. So meh, it would appear that the vit is a better choice for the character's stats though I am not sure how your coinage plays out. My point being that +10 weap + restat is more expensive than bumping a few armor refines. It's up to you really and what you want to prioritize.

2. Cape... Initially, regardless of whether or not I went r9 or Nirvy, I was going to get a Nirvana cape for the complect. Thing is, clerics really don't need atk levels and only +3 def levels is kinda ehh when you think of the money spent on it. Instead, I was thinking of getting a Cloudcharger which ends up being much cheaper, has overall better add-ons for what I'm looking for, and always comes out 4soc. This: http://pwcalc.com/c5a0ca659cb1bde7 Of course, then we come to the problem that there's a Cloudcharger 2.0 out on CN, but uhh... -.-;;

I'd get the cloudcharger, imo; even if there's a newer, better one on the horizon. The usefulness of the cape is not diminished.

3. And now here's my biggest dilemma... I honestly cannot decide on whether to go r9 or Nirvy. I have my pros and cons for both. In favor of r9, it is overall cheaper than Nirvana (if you leave out the wep anyway), always comes out 4soc, has the better add-ons for what I want out of my cleric, and has a much better complect than Nirvana (especially if I can manage to get the r9 belt too). However, I can't account stash it at all if I happen to want to make a different magic class and then I have the big problem being that you have to get the ring first which basically leaves the other gear to the wayside for awhile. In favor of Nirvy, I can account stash it and even sell it since I'd be going with Lunar Nirvana which isn't auto-bound. But yeah, it's not as good as r9 and more expensive overall. I should probably also mention that I already did out the 1st recast pants last 2x when the future availability of medals was uncertain (okay, not that uncertain and I was pretty ****ing stupid on that account). I can sell them to get money for r9, but I dunno who'd be interested. They came out 4soc, but I probably wouldn't waste the money on chienkuning it since the probability that they'll come out at least 3soc is high.

Again, that all really depends on what kind of future you see for that char versus your other alts. I would say r9 (cheaper, I like to PK, four sockets, better grade...), but I only have my failcleric. Others will say things differently based on their own predicaments.

4. In continuing with that last note, a rather big part of me just kinda wants to do this: http://pwcalc.com/88be28bb17f1ec29 And say **** it to this game. Lol.

Imo that's already really good, but endgame is different now than when I stopped playing my cleric.

P.S. Perfects used as sorta long-term placeholder shards since sharding would be the very last thing I would do to my gear.

Idk if my notes were useful. I hope they help. Cheers!

apex1predator

R9 or gtfo :P

On a serious note; I went R9 and havent regretted it one bit. Sure i cant use it through my account stash but TT99 is still good enough(if i make another magtoon).
Ask yourself this: how big is the chance that my next magtoon will become my 'main' PVE/PVP/TW char? if its not really likely then farming your *** off for nirvana isnt worth it imho. And lets be honest how many mag classes(besides veno) get a regular nirvana with all the 5aps crazies running around? Clerics basicly get invited to the 'lesser' aps squads or if APS squads need an opener.

R9 will cost a pretty penny to get it all in one go..but the rewards are well worth it. Much more than nirvana.

As for the cape and helm..its all personal choice tbh. I dont want cloudcharger nor the nirvana helm purely due to loss in channeling. Saying clerics channeltimes are low to start with is true, but in pvp/pve/tw how many times have you been caught with your pants down cuz you couldnt complete the spell in time?( being sage will give you accelerated channel with..umm magicshell? so that could compensate a tad)

Eoria - Harshlands

apex1predator wrote: »

R9 or gtfo :P

On a serious note; I went R9 and havent regretted it one bit. Sure i cant use it through my account stash but TT99 is still good enough(if i make another magtoon).
Ask yourself this: how big is the chance that my next magtoon will become my 'main' PVE/PVP/TW char? if its not really likely then farming your *** off for nirvana isnt worth it imho. And lets be honest how many mag classes(besides veno) get a regular nirvana with all the 5aps crazies running around? Clerics basicly get invited to the 'lesser' aps squads or if APS squads need an opener.

R9 will cost a pretty penny to get it all in one go..but the rewards are well worth it. Much more than nirvana.

Yeah. I guess this is true. I like my cleric too much, honestly. And as much I'd like to learn another class, I really don't see myself getting around to doing that.

As for the cape and helm..its all personal choice tbh. I dont want cloudcharger nor the nirvana helm purely due to loss in channeling. Saying clerics channeltimes are low to start with is true, but in pvp/pve/tw how many times have you been caught with your pants down cuz you couldnt complete the spell in time?( being sage will give you accelerated channel with..umm magicshell? so that could compensate a tad)

-27% to -33% is honestly enough for me at end-game. And I'm demon so I don't get the option of using that particular sage buff. o.o;;

Anyway, thanks Decus and apex. I really appreciate it.