Bosses amped after last update?

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  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    was soloing TT 1-1 Last night

    Chienten seems to keep using high high damage magic attack, and it seems i can no longer interrupt it. he has the animation around himself almost constantly

    my charm never ticks by him, and now he totally destroyed it.

    Lord of percussion i just closed my eyes and spam clicked on my crabmeat, it wasnt pretty
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  • Nizari_ - Harshlands
    Nizari_ - Harshlands Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    @ Pyro lol yeah.thats what we were doing with the crab meats
    @ The lvl 100 guys and gals. when you say you dont notice a difference, do you actually mean you didnt notice a difference, or do you mean you can still solo? lol I am just wondering how many 100+ actually looked at damage taken and damage done before and after update.
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  • Michael - Harshlands
    Michael - Harshlands Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Damage done seems about the same, There could be a small change I guess within the error margin of the bosses damage per hit but honestly bosses have such a wide damage range you couldnt honestly say that there is no possible way it could be higher, depends on the run though I mean 3-x modes do have bosses that can go crazy (I have had 3-3 stellation 5aps 3 times in 3 seconds) but they are all able to be handled with the appropriate damage reduction skills, potions, etc.

    Get a bm and a barb and you can chain 50% damage reduction on the boss permanently if you need to, to survive, basically watch the bosses know what they can do and use everything you have to survive. This works for any low level squad in any HH, remember the longer you take to do a boss the more random attacks they will throw at you in 3-x modes.

    For the 1-1 issue if chintien spams his magic attack walk into his circle he will step back and start physical attacking again (works for any boss that magic spams), venos also used to have the same issue with pets back in the old days (im sure if you look deep enough there is threads about it).

    All the issues raised pretty much are old ones that have always existed making me think that the majority just havent had these things occur yet during one of their runs.
  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Something does seem to have happened to alot more then FF.... and it was a couple updates ago..... Take BH 59. If we couldn't find a tank or anything else for that matter.... I TANKED the bosses, ALL of them, with just a cleric BB'ing. I was fine, every time. Then one run last week (i havent' done BH on this since 2X, been on veno), I got my *** handed to me by Zimo, then Glutt...... died on Qianji too before i had ONE cleric BB'ing, the OTHER cleric (we had two that run) throwing IH every couple seconds, AND THE MYSTIC using the healing plant. I mean seriously wtf? Before I just needed BB now i need all that?
  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Michael - Harshlands wrote: »
    Damage done seems about the same, There could be a small change I guess within the error margin of the bosses damage per hit but honestly bosses have such a wide damage range you couldnt honestly say that there is no possible way it could be higher, depends on the run though I mean 3-x modes do have bosses that can go crazy (I have had 3-3 stellation 5aps 3 times in 3 seconds) but they are all able to be handled with the appropriate damage reduction skills, potions, etc.

    Get a bm and a barb and you can chain 50% damage reduction on the boss permanently if you need to, to survive, basically watch the bosses know what they can do and use everything you have to survive. This works for any low level squad in any HH, remember the longer you take to do a boss the more random attacks they will throw at you in 3-x modes.

    For the 1-1 issue if chintien spams his magic attack walk into his circle he will step back and start physical attacking again (works for any boss that magic spams), venos also used to have the same issue with pets back in the old days (im sure if you look deep enough there is threads about it).

    All the issues raised pretty much are old ones that have always existed making me think that the majority just havent had these things occur yet during one of their runs.

    i have been soloing chienten in 1-1 since level 74, i never had so many problems with him

    and thats with new gear from hitting 80 earlier this week

    there is no doubt in my mind that something with him has been tweaked to be harder
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  • Michael - Harshlands
    Michael - Harshlands Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Search for Chientien spamming magic attacks in this section and the venomancer one, and you will see that its an old issue, involving the boss believing he is at range when he is actually at melee.

    Trust me thats not a new one, its rare yes but it does happen to everyone just walk into the bosses circle and it till stop doing it thus meaning you take less damage and then you can solo just fine again.
  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    will try it 0.o
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  • Nizari_ - Harshlands
    Nizari_ - Harshlands Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Michael - Harshlands wrote: »
    Get a bm and a barb and you can chain 50% damage reduction on the boss permanently if you need to, to survive, basically watch the bosses know what they can do and use everything you have to survive. This works for any low level squad in any HH, remember the longer you take to do a boss the more random attacks they will throw at you in 3-x modes. QUOTE]

    My friend and I did survive, just took way longer than normal. And we died once or twice but had Cleric ons stand by. so survivability wasnt really the issue here.
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  • Michael - Harshlands
    Michael - Harshlands Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Well I cant say anything about FC, havent FC'ed for my alt since 2x started, and honestly the bishop boss doesnt even spawn bishops when we kill it because our dps is insane so that I cant comment on it.

    TT definately doesnt take any longer though, did a squad mode 3-3 about 28 hrs ago, in 25 mins which is about normal for my squad (20-30 mins is our normal time depending on how annoying stellation wants to be)
  • NiightmareXz - Harshlands
    NiightmareXz - Harshlands Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Isn't it obvious? The bosses are mad that they are getting censored too.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    NiightmareXz - Harshlands wrote: »
    Isn't it obvious? The bosses are mad that they are getting censored too.

    XD good one
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I think I need an automated reply to all these threads crying "OMG GUIZ. BOSSES CHANGED." Something like...

    Nothing's changed. You just suck.

    I've had my tanks ****ed over by Drum/Soulbanisher/Wurlord/Behemoth/Steelation/Relic of Wind...the works. Some bosses just decide to be a ***** occasionally. It happens. However, if you're not doing simple things to mitigate those occurrences, you don't really have a leg to stand on.
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  • Woneo - Harshlands
    Woneo - Harshlands Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    What eoria and michael said.
    We are all in the same guild, and we all can run any instance fairly easy. You all just suck.
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    I think I need an automated reply to all these threads crying "OMG GUIZ. BOSSES CHANGED." Something like...

    Nothing's changed. You just suck.

    I've had my tanks ****ed over by Drum/Soulbanisher/Wurlord/Behemoth/Steelation/Relic of Wind...the works. Some bosses just decide to be a ***** occasionally. It happens. However, if you're not doing simple things to mitigate those occurrences, you don't really have a leg to stand on.

    I dont know, being full rank 9 and fully buffed and still getting one shotted on a boss you can normally tank fine isn't exactly the kind of thing that fits into this category.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I dont know, being full rank 9 and fully buffed and still getting one shotted on a boss you can normally tank fine isn't exactly the kind of thing that fits into this category.

    1. You didn't kill enough mobs.
    2. You took too long.
    3. Your r9 doesn't mean much tanking-wise if it's not refined and sharded.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    1. You didn't kill enough mobs.
    2. You took too long.
    3. Your r9 doesn't mean **** tanking-wise if it's not refined and sharded.

    hes refined and sharded, decently, has 9.5k buffed.

    He tells me it wasn't a longer than usual boss kill

    This was BH metal.

    Really, I'm not the kind of person you described earlier, I wouldn't bring this up in the forums if me and the people involved didn't realize something happened differently than it usually is supposed to. I'm not crying about this, I just happened to notice it along with other posters and was wondering about it. I'm not here trying to QQnerf/QQ aps and start rumors, as I stated earlier a few times, wether the boss attacks were actually increased or not I can not confirm. It is a simple discussion.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    1. Did they have bb up or not?
    2. Did he get in phys range? Database shows that Snakefist's patk is much higher than his regular matk and clerics normally have less pdef than mdef.
    3. Why are they having a cleric tanking again anyway? O.o;;
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    1. Did they have bb up or not?
    2. Did he get in phys range? Database shows that Snakefist's patk is much higher than his regular matk and clerics normally have less pdef than mdef.

    about BB i dont remember that detail, and p-attack well this is actually a really good cleric and has been since before he got his r9, I would trust him to know his limits stay out of p-attack range as he always does. Would ask him about the bb but he just went to bed lol. Like I said earlier, could have been a freak glitch or bad luck.

    Edit: and he tanks things many times because he can tank over the other squad members. If he was tanking this time or not I'm not sure, but I have seen him tank it comfortably before without full buffs and he was fully buffed when he was one shotted.
  • Krarenka - Raging Tide
    Krarenka - Raging Tide Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Uhh there isn't even a confirmation that the bosses are stronger, that was simply a speculation. We don't need to start rumors by jumping to conclusions here.


    ehmmm.....rumors have started with this thread tho. I know it was just a question that made this thread to be made, but look at the earlier answers : aren't them already rumors?
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    about BB i dont remember that detail, and p-attack well this is actually a really good cleric and has been since before he got his r9, I would trust him to know his limits stay out of p-attack range as he always does. Would ask him about the bb but he just went to bed lol. Like I said earlier, could have been a freak glitch or bad luck.

    Edit: and he tanks things many times because he can tank over the other squad members. If he was tanking this time or not I'm not sure, but I have seen him tank it comfortably before without full buffs and he was fully buffed when he was one shotted.

    I would just chalk it up to bad luck, honestly.
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  • Biatch_ - Harshlands
    Biatch_ - Harshlands Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Nizari_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    Hi,

    Ok let me start by giving some detail.

    My friend is a lvl 90 BM and I am lvl 90 Sin

    We were soloing (duo) TT and also FC for the past few days.

    Last night we tried FC but we were having a hard time with the bosses.
    Like the bishop boss was spawning new bishop about when the previous one's hp is only half where as before we have more than enough time to kill them. Bosses also took longer to be killed.

    We experienced the same thing in TT. Before we had no probs with drum boss, last night he killed us twice.

    So my question is, does anyone know if bosses have been amped in the last update?

    LOL Blitz can be cause they do it with the Nirvana bosses and Doom in 3-3 also....they trying to fuc everybody now making it not so easy to farm anymore and more cash shop for stuff and mats .........WAY TO GO and now the censor thing woot totally fuced it upb:thanks
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    I would just chalk it up to bad luck, honestly.

    Yea that's the conclusion I was leaning towards >.<
  • Tollingbell - Sanctuary
    Tollingbell - Sanctuary Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Seems to me that if you have a cleric actually holding aggro in BH metal, you just don't have enough DD to get it done. Could be wrong, but that's my impression. Don't know what to say about the other bosses, haven't tried in a few days.
    It's TollingBell b:angry
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Tollingbell - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seems to me that if you have a cleric actually holding aggro in BH metal, you just don't have enough DD to get it done. Could be wrong, but that's my impression. Don't know what to say about the other bosses, haven't tried in a few days.

    have got it done with underpowered squads, it was really not so bad.
  • NOTREAL - Archosaur
    NOTREAL - Archosaur Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    I would just chalk it up to bad luck, honestly.

    I wouldnt. The longer he stays alive the more he stacks his frenzy. Coupled with his wierd range of MAtk id assume it took too long to die and they got hit with a maxed out high-end hit.

    As a reference my Cleric has been hit for 7k in BB with her buffs up in slower squads. Normally the boss is dead before the damage can exceed 2-3k however.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Nizari_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    Hi,

    Ok let me start by giving some detail.

    My friend is a lvl 90 BM and I am lvl 90 Sin

    We were soloing (duo) TT and also FC for the past few days.

    Last night we tried FC but we were having a hard time with the bosses.
    Like the bishop boss was spawning new bishop about when the previous one's hp is only half where as before we have more than enough time to kill them. Bosses also took longer to be killed.

    We experienced the same thing in TT. Before we had no probs with drum boss, last night he killed us twice.

    So my question is, does anyone know if bosses have been amped in the last update?


    Don't worry....
    It was just minor localization changes.b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Back from work. ProtocoI, sorry for the argument. I was tired, pissed and out of line.
    Can we call a truce?
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  • ProtocoI - Harshlands
    ProtocoI - Harshlands Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Back from work. ProtocoI, sorry for the argument. I was tired, pissed and out of line.
    Can we call a truce?

    Apology accepted and of course. We're cool bro b:victory
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