gear with channeling add for wizzards

nicefox
nicefox Posts: 1 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Wizard
i would like to know some molds with channeling adds and their prices, currently i have 2 rings with -6% each and one wristgurad with -6%, but i dont have any belt or necklace with channel add.i want to have at least -40% channeling, but i still need a lot of gear to reach that, i also want to keep the mag. adds due to my nuker build.i know theres is an arcane headgear with -3% but i dont know its name and price.Can someone help me with this ?
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  • XEmpressX - Heavens Tear
    XEmpressX - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Hi. What is your level? later in the game there are some awesome rings with -6 chan on them.
    As for Neck/Waist orns, these are rare but not that great. Im still using a level9 Elemental Necklace that has terrible stats, but has the -6chan so i put up with it. Waist belt was simillar, but swapped it out for a Warsong Barrier belt, has ok def, but no -chan :(

    Just as a note, there are currently no physical protect necklaces or belts with -chan, which kinda sux imo.

    The headgear you are talking about is the Warsoul of Heaven, and costs around 12-18 mil on Heavens tear server, depending on how many there are around at the time. You can make them from championship scrolls out of packs.

    Some rank armour chests give a small amount of -chan, and the Lunar Glade Calm gives -6. Good weapons have -3 or -6, or really good ones give -10 later in the game.
    Really need to know your level in order to let you know what stuff would be good for you.
  • Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I have the same question... I m lvl 72 I already have the Necklace of the Legion and the Rank IV robe... I will get the Sleeves of sea captain for an additional -6 chann.. what else is available around my current lvl?
  • XEmpressX - Heavens Tear
    XEmpressX - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Unfortunately there is not much until you get up around lvl85.

    There is the lvl31 Fiends Ring which has -3 on it.

    Basically you will have to hunt for non mold **** orns that have -any chan on them. And be prepared to pay, that stuffs expensive. I was lucky and get my first -3 orn from a drop, then i made it my mission to get more and more. Got about -40 atm and it definitely makes a difference.

    Calm robe Wraigth Gate has -6 chan, which you are in level range for. People are making a killing out of farming these at the mo, and good on them. Think it costs around 8mil to get all the runs done for you, well on HT its about that anyway. Depending on my care factor, i may post a PWCALC of my gear later today.

    http://pwcalc.com/

    Use this to see what gear is available, it can be quite handy.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    What's with the channeling fetish? A little channeling here or there is nice, but I don't understand channeling as being a primary focus (ESPECIALLY early game).
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  • Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    What's with the channeling fetish? A little channeling here or there is nice, but I don't understand channeling as being a primary focus (ESPECIALLY early game).

    And what will be your primary focus at early game?
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    And what will be your primary focus at early game?

    leveling. My cleric was using like 3 borrowed pieces of armor (like wep + sleeves/chest or something) until like level 90 where I could get into some of my mage's HH90 gear. I was easily able to get 1-2 levels a day all the way to 100 (I went from 98-100 in a day.. if you aren't getting a level a day at 7x you are doing something horribly wrong.. aka caring about gear). If I remember right, I actually went from 70 to 77 in one day as well.. and my whole journey from 1-100 took me a little over a month if memory serves.

    I know a friend that can level a char 1-100 in 8 days if he wants to (which he has done several times).. so it really isn't that hard. I'm not saying you need to get to 100 like tomorrow, I'm just suggesting you stop worrying about your lowbie gear and work towards end game where your armor actually matters.

    Besides, channeling is one of those neat but lower priority stats. Survivability (hp/pdef/mdef/def level), matk, and crit are all more important imo. Channeling is stupid expensive and doesn't benefit you like you'd think. People think that getting alot of -channel gear will somehow increase their dps by some huge margin.. but because of cast time, you'll never even get into the same ballpark of a -int char.. so if you are thinking getting lots of -channel will somehow make you somewhat useful in pve as a wizard.. you're wrong. Where channeling really comes into play is in pvp/TW where you will be less likely to be interrupted during spells (because you aren't channeling them as long.. duh) and not being stuck in place as long for a skill (makes kiting easier). On top of all that, -channeling gear is less available at lower levels than at end game, which makes it more expensive and less effective than getting it at end game.

    I just don't understand why people go so nuts over -channeling.. ESPECIALLY at low levels.
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  • Magicsaber - Dreamweaver
    Magicsaber - Dreamweaver Posts: 727 Arc User
    edited June 2011

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  • Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver
    Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    leveling. My cleric was using like 3 borrowed pieces of armor (like wep + sleeves/chest or something) until like level 90 where I could get into some of my mage's HH90 gear. I was easily able to get 1-2 levels a day all the way to 100 (I went from 98-100 in a day.. if you aren't getting a level a day at 7x you are doing something horribly wrong.. aka caring about gear). If I remember right, I actually went from 70 to 77 in one day as well.. and my whole journey from 1-100 took me a little over a month if memory serves.

    I know a friend that can level a char 1-100 in 8 days if he wants to (which he has done several times).. so it really isn't that hard. I'm not saying you need to get to 100 like tomorrow, I'm just suggesting you stop worrying about your lowbie gear and work towards end game where your armor actually matters.

    Besides, channeling is one of those neat but lower priority stats. Survivability (hp/pdef/mdef/def level), matk, and crit are all more important imo. Channeling is stupid expensive and doesn't benefit you like you'd think. People think that getting alot of -channel gear will somehow increase their dps by some huge margin.. but because of cast time, you'll never even get into the same ballpark of a -int char.. so if you are thinking getting lots of -channel will somehow make you somewhat useful in pve as a wizard.. you're wrong. Where channeling really comes into play is in pvp/TW where you will be less likely to be interrupted during spells (because you aren't channeling them as long.. duh) and not being stuck in place as long for a skill (makes kiting easier). On top of all that, -channeling gear is less available at lower levels than at end game, which makes it more expensive and less effective than getting it at end game.

    I just don't understand why people go so nuts over -channeling.. ESPECIALLY at low levels.

    Do you use Hypers or another way to get into 100 so fast???
    RIght now i need like 1.4 mill exp points per lvl... if i do the 3 bh`s i have available per day i can get around 350k exp.. plus another 100k for the paperclip for villa... that left me with more than 700k exp to go in one day and you said that you go fom 70 to 77 in 1 day??? wtf!!! pls tell me how you do it? unless you have been with a higer lvl killing heads with full 10 hypers session....
    On the other hand I agree with the point that for the moment I don t need great equipment... i can bite like 30 to 40 % of the damage on mobs on a full squad on bh`s but you know even when you re lvling to reach the end game you can have fun on the road and at least for me the possibility to have small goals while I`m leveling is part of the fun... once again thks a lot for your help Adroit, you a lot about this game and your advises are always appreciated but i must disagree with you on some points this time. b:surrender
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Do you use Hypers or another way to get into 100 so fast???
    RIght now i need like 1.4 mill exp points per lvl... if i do the 3 bh`s i have available per day i can get around 350k exp.. plus another 100k for the paperclip for villa... that left me with more than 700k exp to go in one day and you said that you go fom 70 to 77 in 1 day??? wtf!!! pls tell me how you do it? unless you have been with a higer lvl killing heads with full 10 hypers session....
    On the other hand I agree with the point that for the moment I don t need great equipment... i can bite like 30 to 40 % of the damage on mobs on a full squad on bh`s but you know even when you re lvling to reach the end game you can have fun on the road and at least for me the possibility to have small goals while I`m leveling is part of the fun... once again thks a lot for your help Adroit, you a lot about this game and your advises are always appreciated but i must disagree with you on some points this time. b:surrender

    I had a friend hyper me to like 40, then I did BH and cube every day from 40 to 100. When I got to level 70 I had a number of BH2 exp rewards (brainpower orb?) saved up and used them to give me several levels.. which is kinda cheating because you don't have access to that. After that I just found parties and leveled in frosts all the way to 100. I'd suggest starting cube every day, just make sure you're prepared with do alls for any pk rooms you might hit.

    You can have fun early game, it is a game and having fun should be the ultimate goal. However, if you want to know how to get into or be wanted for guilds/pk/tw.. you would need to get to 100 asap. I didn't care for the pve in this game.. so I just pushed ahead so I could get into some real pvp. If you play this game for the pve, you probably chose the wrong class.
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  • rgog
    rgog Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    and cube every day

    Can someone explain what you do in the cube every day for exp? Or point to a simple guide?

    thanks
  • XEmpressX - Heavens Tear
    XEmpressX - Heavens Tear Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    What's with the channeling fetish? A little channeling here or there is nice, but I don't understand channeling as being a primary focus (ESPECIALLY early game).

    Meh, typical level 100 arrogance really. Oooooh we're not level 100 so we are useless and dumb. I don't have the time to spend constantly in FF, and its soooo boring. Its taken like 2 years just to get to lvl93. I have pretty much achieved the stuff i want to atm, im in a TW faction and do manage to kill people in there. Might not seem like a high goal for some, but for me, im happy with that.
    Not meaning to flame you Adroit, just that for some of us level 100 isn't the be all and end all.
  • Sun_Burn - Lost City
    Sun_Burn - Lost City Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Meh, typical level 100 arrogance really. Oooooh we're not level 100 so we are useless and dumb. I don't have the time to spend constantly in FF, and its soooo boring. Its taken like 2 years just to get to lvl93. I have pretty much achieved the stuff i want to atm, im in a TW faction and do manage to kill people in there. Might not seem like a high goal for some, but for me, im happy with that.
    Not meaning to flame you Adroit, just that for some of us level 100 isn't the be all and end all.

    for any wizard your goal should be 99 just for the ultis, pre-99 it doesnt really matter how much channeling you have imo. Should spend the coins/effort just getting to 99/100, then work on 99 skills/channeling.

    maybe its a pve server thing, I also don't see whats so great about channeling being a main goal, even with all the channel in the world you will always be limited to less than 1 attack a second because of casting times. I'd take higher crit ratio vs channel any day.
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Meh, typical level 100 arrogance really. Oooooh we're not level 100 so we are useless and dumb. I don't have the time to spend constantly in FF, and its soooo boring. Its taken like 2 years just to get to lvl93. I have pretty much achieved the stuff i want to atm, im in a TW faction and do manage to kill people in there. Might not seem like a high goal for some, but for me, im happy with that.
    Not meaning to flame you Adroit, just that for some of us level 100 isn't the be all and end all.

    You say you don't have much time to play, yet you are frequently on the forums and have played for "like 2 years". It seems to me you have PLENTY of time to play, you just don't manage your time very well. If all you wanna do is sit around talking to friends all day instead of playing the game, the more power to you. Seriously, I could care less what you do with your time. But realize you should be talking about how to make friends in online games.. not how to play a wizard. It has always bugged me when the clueless pretend to be experts.. I've just never understood that mentality.
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  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    You can have fun early game, it is a game and having fun should be the ultimate goal. However, if you want to know how to get into or be wanted for guilds/pk/tw.. you would need to get to 100 asap. I didn't care for the pve in this game.. so I just pushed ahead so I could get into some real pvp. If you play this game for the pve, you probably chose the wrong class.

    well since i am on a PVE server i like to explore the pve content of the game and i really find it refreshing to find pve applications for the wizard. I mean if you look closely there are several bosses who use earth fire water dmg when they are in range attack. Furthermore some groups of mobs like mobs in the past or warsong or ... do elemental dmg you can simply gather 20-30 of them and smile because your high elemental res limit their dmg to a value below 100 which would be compareable to the phydef of a barb when facing physical mobs. It also makes a lot of fun to nuke large groups of mobs with the ultis or to kite some of the minibosses.

    So maybe i am one of those fail wizards in your opinion but choosing wiz to pwn in pvp is also no good reason to start the class. Because tideborn can kill you and you wont stand a chance archers can 1 shot you from higher range and are as usefull aoe DD in TW as wiz 5 aps bms will **** you without problems. And when it comes to the ability to deal huge magic dmg psychics outdmg you. So the only + left for TW is the larger range of the ultis but that's it. Compared to a fish you are just a slowpoke caster and if you go for -chan you will be as squishy with even lower dmg output. And if you choose wiz for PK 1v1 PvP things are even worse to be competitive with other classes.
  • Pearlwood - Lost City
    Pearlwood - Lost City Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Even on pvp servers, u gotta do pve to level and/or get spirit for skills. At 100 I've also found that Warsong and Lunar runs are farmable and profitable. They aren't high APS NV farming of course, but they're pretty good. Wizards can also solo mode lower level HHs and pull in some cash. The BHs can come up with some good stuff, too. I love those estacy cards that SOT BHs give, 2 for 2M coins a pop. All this stuff helps to reduce the pressure to cashop for gear which adds to the enjoyment of the game. So pve is important, regardless of whether or not your ultimate objective is pvp-TW, which I agree with Adroit, probably should be especially if you play on a pvp server (Of course the events are a no brainer..always profit there in some way).

    As to -channelling, nobody has established to me that a significant investiture (or diversion)
    of focus, money, and gear, is worth it. Maybe if you are demon that route is plausible...I'm not sure. But, IMO no matter what cultivation you are: Getting anywhere close to approaching the Zero Channelling myth is impossible. In fact, the term "myth" is an overstatement, it should be called "fantasy". And, even if you could, the abolishment of survivability would make it not worth it.

    I ran across a -12 channelling belt the other day. Could have purchased it for around 19 million coins. It had no other adds whatsoever, though. None. So, the question of just when I would put it on and use it confused me, until I studied it and realized that it would never happen. Can't get enough Pdef/HP/magdef without a good belt. No way would I eliminate all Magdef/Pdef/HP from my waist to use that belt in any situation.

    So, I'll use -channelling when it's there, but it is definitely secondary to the rest. If my end game gear gives me -30%, I'll be more than happy because I don't need anymore than that to do what I'm supposed to do...that is, hit hard and stay alive as much as possible.

    peace out
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011

    So maybe i am one of those fail wizards in your opinion but choosing wiz to pwn in pvp is also no good reason to start the class. Because tideborn can kill you and you wont stand a chance archers can 1 shot you from higher range and are as usefull aoe DD in TW as wiz 5 aps bms will **** you without problems. And when it comes to the ability to deal huge magic dmg psychics outdmg you. So the only + left for TW is the larger range of the ultis but that's it. Compared to a fish you are just a slowpoke caster and if you go for -chan you will be as squishy with even lower dmg output. And if you choose wiz for PK 1v1 PvP things are even worse to be competitive with other classes.

    Wizards are balanced just fine against the original classes. I don't get rolled by archers/bms etc etc, although they do have a chance at beating me (very balanced imo) but you are right.. tideborn are OP. We have the best aoe DPH in the game (our ultis) like you stated, but no other magic class has the debuffs that we have. You keep saying psychics do more damage, but they don't have undine OR genie spark.. which are both MAJOR debuffs and allow us to do far more damage to a target when it matters. Psychics (or any magic class for that matter) can't match our single target DPH or our aoe DPH.. where the other classes shine is their defensive skills/purge/buffs/heals etc etc.

    Maybe you just didn't see my genie spark amp page.. so I'll post it again.
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&hl=en&key=tauRiuICfJ949xXxQSgn8_w&authkey=CN-3hpEJ#gid=0
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  • Nurfed_You - Harshlands
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    lol at genie spark.

    was pvping yesterday with some wiz Undine+Genie spark+Divine Pyro 18k crit. lets see a psy do that without sparking
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