Elemental Invocation - Manifest Virtue

Pearlwood - Lost City
Pearlwood - Lost City Posts: 260 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Wizard
Elemental Invocation and Manifest Virtue keep titilating my interest. The cooldown on EI is a whopping 10 min so I don't want to waste spirit and money for it, but the question comes to my mind under what situation were the dev's thinking a wizard would acquire this skill? As for MV, it's cooldown is not as bad (5 min) and I'm thinking of getting that one. For me it would add approx 160 magic attack to my wep for 30 secs. That's not bad at all.

Anybody have these and was it worth it to get them?
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  • Ketania - Heavens Tear
    Ketania - Heavens Tear Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    MV is retar.ded. It adds less damage than a single spark. I don't know the exact math but it's practically useless considering it takes a spark.

    EI is better since it drains mana and chi. When used on a cat barb who doesn't wear an MP charm, this could cause problems if they aren't paying attention, and if anything, will make them have to hit another button, possibly messing them up. The chi loss is self explanatory.
  • Harrydresden - Raging Tide
    Harrydresden - Raging Tide Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    paying 40-60m for a chi drain skill venos can learn for like 50k....hmmmm wat to do
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Don't bother with either of the skills. Manifest gives you less of a bonus than single spark.. which is pretty sad for 40-60m cost. Invocation is kinda neat for a chi drain skill, but again.. hardly worthwhile. These skills are something you get when you literally **** money and already have full +12 r9 with jades and charms/pots/etc to last you a year.
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  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Virtue would only pay off it would stack with other sparks but as far as i know it doesnt and the +% are always said not to be more than 1spark it seems to be useless

    invocation also sounds nice but the earth dmg part is a nonfactor due to PvP reduction and resistances ( a gush would do the same dmg) and the mana drain is also a nonfactor with mp charms and pots and moreover with 1 purify it is gone anyway

    so even if I am a skill addict and i also will try to get those skills I will skip them till i have completed my endgame gear

    greetz harm0wnie
  • Pearlwood - Lost City
    Pearlwood - Lost City Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    MV is retar.ded. It adds less damage than a single spark. I don't know the exact math but it's practically useless considering it takes a spark.

    EI is better since it drains mana and chi. When used on a cat barb who doesn't wear an MP charm, this could cause problems if they aren't paying attention, and if anything, will make them have to hit another button, possibly messing them up. The chi loss is self explanatory.

    Prolly not worth the costs. But, when u say "MV adds less damage than a single spark", I'm not sure I understand. It takes a single spark to invoke the skill. Would MV not be useful at times u don't have 2 sparks for the ult but u need more power? I also suppose one might MV>CE>WizChi>undine>ult = bigdamage. Just thinking out loud here...flaming allowed. It's seems similiar to a 30 sec magattk charm.

    peace out
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Prolly not worth the costs. But, when u say "MV adds less damage than a single spark", I'm not sure I understand. It takes a single spark to invoke the skill. Would MV not be useful at times u don't have 2 sparks for the ult but u need more power? I also suppose one might MV>CE>WizChi>undine>ult = bigdamage. Just thinking out loud here...flaming allowed. It's seems similiar to a 30 sec magattk charm.

    peace out

    If you need more damage you can use sage Wellspring Quaff. Is not big difference from manifest. I also think this skill is not worth money.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Prolly not worth the costs. But, when u say "MV adds less damage than a single spark", I'm not sure I understand. It takes a single spark to invoke the skill. Would MV not be useful at times u don't have 2 sparks for the ult but u need more power? I also suppose one might MV>CE>WizChi>undine>ult = bigdamage. Just thinking out loud here...flaming allowed. It's seems similiar to a 30 sec magattk charm.

    peace out

    I can't really think of a case when you'd be forced to use MV for that extra damage, but even then.. you'd use single spark before you'd use manifest
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    paying 40-60m for a chi drain skill venos can learn for like 50k....hmmmm wat to do

    I like this guy's style, lol. Make a "veno pk in west" video plz. I wanna see you mime a nix
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    If you need more damage you can use sage Wellspring Quaff. Is not big difference from manifest. I also think this skill is not worth money.
    i got it and the only situation where the additional dmg is ok is when you get resed and you use your 1st spark after death for the quarf so you get a lil extra dmg + the mana pool back. I never used it in pvp to boost dmg. And the additional dmg given is not really high so meh.

    Well MV sounds impressing but they should make it

    max mana/ 1000 in +att lvl instead of max mana / 100 in % mag attack

    wiz so needs also + attack lvls on some of the skills to get even close to psy dmg
    and we also need + att lvl on our rank gear and it only would be fair to also add boots and sleeves for wiz for r8 not only for psy but hey PWI supports new classes and gives a ...about old ones

    greetz harm0wnie
  • Galox - Heavens Tear
    Galox - Heavens Tear Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I don't think either skill looks that appealing, apart from the fact you can say "I have it".
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  • DaichiOni - Dreamweaver
    DaichiOni - Dreamweaver Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    OMG GET ELEMENTAL INVOCATION SO YOU CAN BE A GIANT LIGHTHOUSE! FAVORITE 100 SKILL EVAR (looks anyways)
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