Are BM and Sins still formidable?

ranaza

Now that channel cancelling has been removed, do you feel that BM and Sins are still as formidable in PvP as before?

On one hand we have BMs that can barely kill anyone end game anymore, but that doesn't prevent them from keeping up stun locks, or aoe stunning people then aoe hfing in group PvP situations.

On the other hand, sins can still kill most squishies in one stun, but they really only have one stun (unless you could shadow teleport that takes a whole 3 minute to cool down) so you can resist it with fortify or use badge of courage then proceed to kite them, and they probably won't be killing end game bms or end game barbs too quickly anymore.

What is your opinion on this matter?

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Sins are still 100% OP

Bm's just lost their bread and butter kill skills for pvp. We can stunlock you for a while but with good gear its no real threat anymore and expel will **** a lock over good.

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

it sux thta bms cnat cc anymore. I mean for some classes it was really the only effective way to play. Sins can still kill pretty much anything though even without cc

Adroit - Lost City

hardly even a speedbump for sins.. definitely a blow for bms, but time will tell how it really affects them. Who knows.. maybe we'll see more bms running around with r9 axes in pvp xD

JSXJoe - Sanctuary

Seriously! I dont know how you pk but DBB and Cyclone are not rly that great for a bm, well they are nice and DBB is great on barbs and stuff but...that way you can concentrate on other skills and stuff, I think both sins and bms are still best pkers out there, I never rly relied on Cyclone and DBB in pk...and if you use just dbb without spark...and if you spark they'll run anyways...so just cast it fully, I mean whats the problem ? The time is nearly the same compared to switching your weapons. So stop QQ, accept it and make the best out of it.

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

i dont really know many bms who glitch cyclone, and dbb isn't the big one. its the pole skill that gives 100% crit rate for like 6secs that cripples bm's. I can't remember the name of it atm, but thats the skill that really helped bms out

stonk

Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »

i dont really know many bms who glitch cyclone, and dbb isn't the big one. its the pole skill that gives 100% crit rate for like 6secs that cripples bm's. I can't remember the name of it atm, but thats the skill that really helped bms out

Its called Glacial spike. Onyl works/(ed) with demon GS. BOth players are still formidible, obviously less then earlier esp for dph sins or bms w/ low refine. If it comes down to not doing enough damage without sparking, just spark b:shutup

TheDan - Sanctuary

Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »

i dont really know many bms who glitch cyclone, and dbb isn't the big one. its the pole skill that gives 100% crit rate for like 6secs that cripples bm's. I can't remember the name of it atm, but thats the skill that really helped bms out

DBB and GS were the biggest factors, DBB has to be cancelled because for some stupid reason every class for example archers, barbs, sins get free elemental buffs without costing spark except BM which cost 2 spark for fire buff.

You need it to stun through expel, unless you're sharding your axes with an elemental gem, and if that's the case GG.

Not to mention BMs are inherently weaker because R9 for them isn't so great.

Abstractive - Archosaur

Never used cc, never needed cc. Good riddance.

SQUISHKASS - Sanctuary

JSXJoe - Sanctuary wrote: »

Seriously! I dont know how you pk but DBB and Cyclone are not rly that great for a bm, well they are nice and DBB is great on barbs and stuff but...that way you can concentrate on other skills and stuff, I think both sins and bms are still best pkers out there, I never rly relied on Cyclone and DBB in pk...and if you use just dbb without spark...and if you spark they'll run anyways...so just cast it fully, I mean whats the problem ? The time is nearly the same compared to switching your weapons. So stop QQ, accept it and make the best out of it.

Hey Joe, isn't Base penner your friend? You should ask him about how losing those glitches sucks since he is one of the few bms I know that was actually decent pking even with relatively worse gear. But I guess he doesn't care for bm much anymore since he got his sin.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

I like how all the people I never once saw pvp on sanc are in this thread telling folks how useless CC is.