How would you balance stealth?

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  • Troller - Sanctuary
    Troller - Sanctuary Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I think I already said this, but, It's not stealth that's overpowered, it's what happens after stealth that makes them unkillable. Get rid of stealth and you still have to make it through their plethora of buffs, crits, stuns and dps.
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  • RKH - Harshlands
    RKH - Harshlands Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Just cap stealth lv at 100, then see how many sins get a big head XD
  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Chickpea - Lost City wrote: »
    Why do you even need to balance stealth anymore? Around 90% of all those that hangs around West gate, SP, HO to PvP are assassins anyway. No one logs their main to PvP they go on their sin alt. Stealth doesn't effect anyone but sins themselves. Low level sins as in 100-102 are the ones that suffers in PvP now when a 103-105 sins pops up and eats them in 3 sec. Its pretty funny.

    The last 10% that PvPs are R9+12 and they can usually defend themselves against any class pretty well.

    If PWI wanna make PvP interesting again they should make a few non stealth zones for other classes to PK. Venos cant use nixes at Secret Passage, Cave of Sadistic Glee and Nightscream Island for Example. Make similar areas where sins cant use stealth. I dont think anyone would mind actually, specially not the assassins since most of them are alt chars. Majority of players actually miss PvPing on their mains but they have to go on their sins to avoid getting ganked.

    That may be the case on Lost City, but it's different on HL. Not everyone who pks has r9, and moajority of players who have r9 and pvp outside of tw, just come to clear a pvp area, hang around for a minute or two, and then leave unless there's like a small faction war or something.

    And I know many people who do not pvp on their end game sins because they find it boring and not challenging at all, and as a result only use the sins as farming alts. Keep in mind these people have other end game chars as well.

    I do like the idea of non-stealth zones though. I bet pvp would often be active in such areas xD
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  • Nurfed_You - Harshlands
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    stealth really isnt hte issue at endgame. sins worked for 103-5 so why not let them have that advantage. all the buffs make them impossible, imo remove deaden or tidal protection. focused mind isnt so bad, but tidal protection makes them invincisin.

    and quite a few non r9's try to pvp on harshlands then some sin comes and ruins all the fun.
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  • Tygurr - Sanctuary
    Tygurr - Sanctuary Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Niteshadows - Harshlands wrote: »
    what would u guys do to balance stealth?

    Simple. Have it where stealth won't work at all while in combat mode.
    Somewhat retired from PWI, now playing Hellgate Global full time
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Tygurr - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Simple. Have it where stealth won't work at all while in combat mode.

    Can't tell if trolling..
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  • Tygurr - Sanctuary
    Tygurr - Sanctuary Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Can't tell if trolling..

    No, not trolling... I'm actually serious.
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »
    stealth really isnt hte issue at endgame. sins worked for 103-5 so why not let them have that advantage. all the buffs make them impossible, imo remove deaden or tidal protection. focused mind isnt so bad, but tidal protection makes them invincisin.

    and quite a few non r9's try to pvp on harshlands then some sin comes and ruins all the fun.

    Thanks to stealth, sins don't have to work as hard as the other classes to get to those lvls, and they only need to get to those lvls to hide form lower sins. In order for a sin to be able to stealth from 100+ of any other class, they only need to reach 7x, which does not take much work at all.

    But I agree with you, some of the other buffs are more annoying, but the way they can use stealth to always prep with them,(including the very annoying and cheap "stealth spark") kinda makes the buffs more op, which is why I think stealth should freeze cooldowns.
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  • Ibbies - Lost City
    Ibbies - Lost City Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    they can hide from 10xs at lvl 70, but they cant do sht really, unless the go all out on a poorly geared AA char. sins are basically archers with half the dph but almost double the dps. if anything, zerk daggers should be removed, stuns should be nerfed (A LITTLE), and 2-3 of the epic buffs (deaden nerves and tidal protection will not be missed by anyone except the sins :P). but all in all, sins are meant to be 1v1 beasts, but not meant to be able to do the work of an entire pt in half the time.
  • Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I would be content if all they did was make it so ANY spark knocks you out of stealth. Seriously bright shining circles of light should not keep someone invisible. If they fixed it so you can't triple spark they can fix it so you can't double or single spark. I'm fine with R9 daggers, I freaking hate getting hit with them, but hey they spent $1000+ so they deserve to roflpwn. They DON'T deserve to double spark in invis and THEN proceed to roflpwn, that's bs in its highest form.

    I miss the days when all we had to QQ about was nix bleed b:surrender

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