Question to staff regarding gender lock

Kentanu - Heavens Tear
Kentanu - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
edited May 2011 in General Discussion
I'm probably not the first to ask and I'm sure I won't be the last but why did you gender lock the classes?

I don't mean to come off as insulting but that really sucks and I fail to see the point to it.

Only a man can be a fighter and only a women can be a magic user. All except the Tideborn who's gender lock is opposite from the other races.

If not for the gender lock, I'd really like to play as Venomancer but not if I have to look like a girl to play it. That's actually the main reason why I stopped playing PWI because that gender lock is totally messed up.

I know it's just a game and of course, I have no problem playing a girl in plain video games where the main character is a girl but for online games that have me interacting with millions of other players, playing as a girl is like going out in public dressed in drag. It's not something you'll see me doing in true life and it's not something you'll see me do in games either.

So I ask you. Why did you gender lock the classes? What's the point to that and will you ever consider changing the game so that players can play as any gender in any class?

If someone from the staff could please give me an answer, I'd appreciate it.

Also, if any players reading this agree with me, feel free to voice it.
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  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    It's been debated many times....It's not going to be changed. Go play a male Mystic. Lol.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Sig credits to Myra :D
  • Leoti - Heavens Tear
    Leoti - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Only a man can be a fighter and only a women can be a magic user. All except the Tideborn who's gender lock is opposite from the other races.

    You do know you can use male magic users on everything else apart from veno right?
  • Alakai - Heavens Tear
    Alakai - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    There isn't any gender lock on this game, except for one race, and that's the Untamed, Venomancer and Barbarian are the only gender locked classes, its just the art for the classes. so deal with it. and quit QQing. And what, are you so masculine/Feminine that you can't play as your opposite gender?

    Edit: I just read through the rest of your post...and well, man up, REAL MEN AREN'T AFRAID TO WEAR DRESSES! And don't say otherwise, the real men in the world, wear dresses!

    And if you will, please do your research on the Mythology surrounding this game.

    Untamed are, and always will be Gender Specific classes because of mythology.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    What is this I don't even
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Silest - Sanctuary
    Silest - Sanctuary Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    There isn't any gender lock on this game, except for one race, and that's the Untamed, Venomancer and Barbarian are the only gender locked classes, its just the art for the classes. so deal with it. and quit QQing. And what, are you so masculine/Feminine that you can't play as your opposite gender?

    Edit: I just read through the rest of your post...and well, man up, REAL MEN AREN'T AFRAID TO WEAR DRESSES! And don't say otherwise, the real men in the world, wear dresses!

    And if you will, please do your research on the Mythology surrounding this game.

    Untamed are, and always will be Gender Specific classes because of mythology.

    BULL****. I've been a Manomancer for a year now.






    =p
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    dude, it's a video game. that character on your screen? it's just a blob of pixels --- it. isn't. really. you.

    Lenie there ain't really me, either. i don't mind playing her, regardless of what my actual RL gender might be.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.
  • Silest - Sanctuary
    Silest - Sanctuary Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    dude, it's a video game. that character on your screen? it's just a blob of pixels --- it. isn't. really. you.

    Lenie there ain't really me, either. i don't mind playing her, regardless of what my actual RL gender might be.

    First of all.

    No it isn't.
    No it's not.
    Yes it is.It is a projected representational version of yourself.
    Yes she is.


    sorry I can't help myself XD
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    dude, join us "drag" hemales :D

    You might even find it fun! b:cute

    Just dont do what I did and name your venomancer hunnybunney. Its a mistake you will not forget b:surrender
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    dude, join us "drag" hemales :D

    You might even find it fun! b:cute

    Just dont do what I did and name your venomancer hunnybunney. Its a mistake you will not forget b:surrender

    b:laugh Wow... Wait... b:laugh Can't stop... Laughing...

    Did you do the .ini **** to get like J cub **** too, like 90% of the other venos, too? b:chuckle
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    b:laugh Wow... Wait... b:laugh Can't stop... Laughing...

    Did you do the .ini **** to get like J cub **** too, like 90% of the other venos, too? b:chuckle

    Nu D:

    I dun liek massive bewbs. b:surrender They get in the way for the kissing and stuffs b:kiss

    EDIT :

    Assuming C is the sort of "average" size that tends to get no attention (Neither considered flat chested nor big boobed), my venos probably a little smaller.
  • Hiemus - Raging Tide
    Hiemus - Raging Tide Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Nu D:

    I dun liek massive bewbs. b:surrender They get in the way for the kissing and stuffs b:kiss

    EDIT :

    Assuming C is the sort of "average" size that tends to get no attention (Neither considered flat chested nor big boobed), my venos probably a little smaller.

    C cup = Common
    J cup = Jumbo
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Kentanu - Heavens Tear
    Kentanu - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    lizrau wrote: »
    It's been debated many times....It's not going to be changed. Go play a male Mystic. Lol.

    You apparently over looked the part where I said I want to be a venomancer. Not a mystic.
    There isn't any gender lock on this game, except for one race, and that's the Untamed, Venomancer and Barbarian are the only gender locked classes, its just the art for the classes. so deal with it. and quit QQing. And what, are you so masculine/Feminine that you can't play as your opposite gender?

    Edit: I just read through the rest of your post...and well, man up, REAL MEN AREN'T AFRAID TO WEAR DRESSES! And don't say otherwise, the real men in the world, wear dresses!

    And if you will, please do your research on the Mythology surrounding this game.

    Untamed are, and always will be Gender Specific classes because of mythology.

    Dude, you come here acting like a **** and you want to tell me to man up? How about you grow up before you tell others to man up.
    First of all.

    No it isn't.
    No it's not.
    Yes it is.It is a projected representational version of yourself.
    Yes she is.


    sorry I can't help myself XD

    Thank you. That's exactly the point I was making. ^5
  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I didn't overlook anything ^.^ Just telling you facts. Closest thing to a male veno is a male mystic, now go play one.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Sig credits to Myra :D
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    You apparently over looked the part where I said I want to be a venomancer. Not a mystic.



    What come here acting like a **** and you want to tell me to man up? How about you grow up before telling others to man up.



    Thank you. That's exactly the point I was making. ^5

    Its still of no point. You dont like playing a girl?

    Hows playing a dude with bunny ears or a fox tail gonna go down? ghey? Or "Thats just how this class is"? If its the first, way to hold on to your man-cards there buddy, if its the second, well thats true already and causes your thread to be redundant.
  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Same thing I'd say, Infernia. Because seriously...If they did that...I'm sure *** men already play female venos lmfao. It'd just make things better O: <3
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Sig credits to Myra :D
  • Rikkai - Sanctuary
    Rikkai - Sanctuary Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    *gets out my psychology notes*

    So it says here that Carl Jung's theories there is an anima and an animus hmmm lets dive deeper into this shall we b:cool

    Anima- the man's unconcious female-like personality
    Animus- the females inner male-like personality

    And in order to be a more perfect person spiritually and emotionally and psychologically bla bla bla you must be comfortable with your anima or animus inner feelings

    -End rant- Go be a girl its good for you cuz we girls are GOD b:cute
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]~Lol dont you just love those random stalkerish guys~b:shocked
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    lizrau wrote: »
    Same thing I'd say, Infernia. Because seriously...If they did that...I'm sure *** men already play female venos lmfao. It'd just make things better O: <3

    Im straight and play all-females (Cept BM, female BMs look constipated in combat :O). Id rather look at a smexy female Cleric than a dude Cleric im forced to make look either Emo, overly Masculine or incredibly camp. Sure others are like that too :p
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Yes it is.It is a projected representational version of yourself.

    see, that's exactly how i DON'T think of my PW characters. i'm not even that much of a roleplayer.

    but, hey, even if i DID think of them that way... i can't act worth a damn in "real life", but a videogame puts a buffer between me and the act. if i WERE that much of a roleplayer, it might be interesting and entertaining to roleplay as the opposite gender. it's not as if crossdressing doesn't have a long, proud tradition in the art and craft of acting, after all.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Males playing venos have good exscuses.

    Males playing other classes as females? They just like wearing panties secretly.


    On topic.... Has always been a crappy deal, But its also one of those things they will never fix. In fact, what do they actually fix?
    re
  • Kentanu - Heavens Tear
    Kentanu - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Its still of no point. You dont like playing a girl?

    Hows playing a dude with bunny ears or a fox tail gonna go down? ghey? Or "Thats just how this class is"? If its the first, way to hold on to your man-cards there buddy, if its the second, well thats true already and causes your thread to be redundant.

    huh?

    Your comment made no sense.
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Males playing venos have good exscuses.

    Males playing other classes as females? They just like wearing panties secretly.


    On topic.... Has always been a crappy deal, But its also one of those things they will never fix. In fact, what do they actually fix?

    What I do in my spare time is my buisness b:avoid
    huh?

    Your comment made no sense.

    Accept that Venomancers / barbs are gender locked. Or quit. Your choice, it wont change, and to be perfectly honest, I wouldnt want it to, it brings out the idiots in droves, lets us spot you early on and avoid you easily.
  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    If a male plays a Veno whether or not he's straight or ghey..It doesn't matter as long as you TELL PEOPLE. Now....a male playing other female chars....A little weird, and you DEFO need to tell them you're a guy...Otherwise you're overusing your assets. A lot of people know males play Venos, but playing other female characters? Please make sure you tell them XD
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Sig credits to Myra :D
  • ReMakaBo - Archosaur
    ReMakaBo - Archosaur Posts: 845 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    What I do in my spare time is my buisness b:avoid

    No shame... Ive woken up once wearing them on my head b:laugh

    oh, the college years.... b:sad
    re
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    lizrau wrote: »
    If a male plays a Veno whether or not he's straight or ghey..It doesn't matter as long as you TELL PEOPLE. Now....a male playing other female chars....A little weird, and you DEFO need to tell them you're a guy...Otherwise you're overusing your assets. A lot of people know males play Venos, but playing other female characters? Please make sure you tell them XD

    Telling people brings up unecessary conversations. I dont tell people unless it becomes an issue, I.E someone tries to come onto me or starts trying to give me stuff.

    Up til that creepy point, im playing as a girl, the majority of poeple wont take this at face value knowing how many dudes do this and making people refer to you as "he / him" when what they see on screen is a girl is just annoying for both parties.

    ---

    Someday il have to admit that im just a little wierd b:chuckle

    Im still straight however. b:victory
  • lizrau
    lizrau Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Lol. I'm weird too o: >.> <.< :3 This thread is getting out of hand O:!!!!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    Sig credits to Myra :D
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    lizrau wrote: »
    Lol. I'm weird too o: >.> <.< :3 This thread is getting out of hand O:!!!!!

    This thread started out of hand b:chuckle
  • LovesTragedy - Lost City
    LovesTragedy - Lost City Posts: 474 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I'm a guy. I'm straight. I only play female characters, with the exception of my psy.

    Why?

    Two reasons.

    Males on this game generally look like they are playing for the other team
    and
    If I have to stare at an *** all day while I am playing, I'd rather it be female. I dont get off on pixels, but its still more aesthetically pleasing to me.


    If you arent comfortable enough with your own manhood to play a female genderlocked class on an mmo where you will probably NEVER meet any of the people you encounter, then you need help. It's a GAME. Get more comfortable with yourself. Either that, or you are one of those people who bashes stuff for being ghey because you really ARE deep down. In which case, again, get comfortable with yourself and stop QQing about something that will never change just to fix your pathetic insecurities on a GAME. b:bye
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Chars:
    CptMaggots 101 sage R8/NV Seeker
    LovesTragedy 100 demon R8 Cleric

    ~Finally quit this god forsaken game~
    Enjoy the rest of the downward spiral. See you in SWtOR b:bye
  • Kentanu - Heavens Tear
    Kentanu - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    *gets out my psychology notes*

    So it says here that Carl Jung's theories there is an anima and an animus hmmm lets dive deeper into this shall we b:cool

    Anima- the man's unconcious female-like personality
    Animus- the females inner male-like personality

    And in order to be a more perfect person spiritually and emotionally and psychologically bla bla bla you must be comfortable with your anima or animus inner feelings

    -End rant- Go be a girl its good for you cuz we girls are GOD b:cute

    OOOKAAAYYY. In any case, I'll pass.
    Males playing venos have good exscuses.

    Males playing other classes as females? They just like wearing panties secretly.


    On topic.... Has always been a crappy deal, But its also one of those things they will never fix. In fact, what do they actually fix?

    Good question. As far as I know they miraculously took the time to fix one bug in JD. Other then that, very rarely if ever.
    Accept that Venomancers / barbs are gender locked. Or quit. Your choice, it wont change, and to be perfectly honest, I wouldnt want it to, it brings out the idiots in droves, lets us spot you early on and avoid you easily.

    I'm an idiot because I don't want to play as a girl? To be perfectly honest, you wouldn't need to worry about avoiding me. I'd be the one trying to avoid you. The reason would be because I don't like wasting my time with stuck up b1tches who's ego is bigger then your IQ.
  • Infernia - Harshlands
    Infernia - Harshlands Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    OOOKAAAYYY. In any case, I'll pass.



    Good question. As far as I know they miraculously took the time to fix one bug in JD. Other then that, very rarely if ever.



    I'm an idiot because I don't want to play as a girl? To be perfectly honest, you wouldn't need to worry about avoiding me. I'd be the one trying to avoid you. The reason would be because I don't like wasting my time with stuck up b1tches who's ego is bigger then your IQ.

    Im going to find the most sexy set of ladies underwear I can, and personally hunt you down wearing nothing else except 400 rounds of 5mm Ammo b:sin

    Ninja edit :

    Also a 5mm Machine Gun. Forgot that lol.
  • Kentanu - Heavens Tear
    Kentanu - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I'm a guy. I'm straight. I only play female characters, with the exception of my psy.

    Why?

    Two reasons.

    Males on this game generally look like they are playing for the other team
    and
    If I have to stare at an *** all day while I am playing, I'd rather it be female. I dont get off on pixels, but its still more aesthetically pleasing to me.


    If you arent comfortable enough with your own manhood to play a female genderlocked class on an mmo where you will probably NEVER meet any of the people you encounter, then you need help. It's a GAME. Get more comfortable with yourself. Either that, or you are one of those people who bashes stuff for being ghey because you really ARE deep down. In which case, again, get comfortable with yourself and stop QQing about something that will never change just to fix your pathetic insecurities on a GAME. b:bye

    You come in here acting like a total **** and tell me things I already know and how you like to play as a girl for whatever and that makes no difference to me. Although despite your denial, it sounds like you do get off on your pixel girls because you clearly can't get a real girl. So don't come in here telling me that I have pathetic insecurities when that clearly describes you to the letter. In truth, I hope I never do encounter those I see in games because a lot of them are disturbed morons like you.
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