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Woneo - Harshlands
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Firstly, I never claim to be an epic factor in this game or anything of that nature, I enjoy playing this game the way I play it. I'm not some pro tw'er, I'm a scout and in pvp im squishy as hell. With that being said, I'd like to generate a discussion on this, as I've been thinking about it the past few days.
Most of the endgame people that I know enjoy tw the most out of any aspect of this game. But the current tw situation on Harshlands for Valhalla and Catalyst, and possibly kylin\crimson\mayhem\afterlife is pretty terrible. This is pretty much because... Catalyst can easily beat Val in 5 minutes, so val is just wasting money bidding on Catalyst. On the other hand, if val bids on anyone else they can easily onepush that guild, which is going to be mayhem\afterlife\cirmson\kylin. These four guilds are having epic tw's recently, and by val attacking those people they kind of ruin that for them. So it is pretty much a lose-lose situation for everyone on the server in the next little while if things continue.
As I sloppily write this, this could really be a continuation of Curses' topic. The solution to this is for the server to grow balls and start stacking guilds, whatever they are. If you don't do this soon, things are going to get really boring, really fast.
My sloppily written two cents. Your thoughts?
Ohh edit. What happened to val saying they will attack cata every week? You can't get better if you dont practice, mang.
Most of the endgame people that I know enjoy tw the most out of any aspect of this game. But the current tw situation on Harshlands for Valhalla and Catalyst, and possibly kylin\crimson\mayhem\afterlife is pretty terrible. This is pretty much because... Catalyst can easily beat Val in 5 minutes, so val is just wasting money bidding on Catalyst. On the other hand, if val bids on anyone else they can easily onepush that guild, which is going to be mayhem\afterlife\cirmson\kylin. These four guilds are having epic tw's recently, and by val attacking those people they kind of ruin that for them. So it is pretty much a lose-lose situation for everyone on the server in the next little while if things continue.
As I sloppily write this, this could really be a continuation of Curses' topic. The solution to this is for the server to grow balls and start stacking guilds, whatever they are. If you don't do this soon, things are going to get really boring, really fast.
My sloppily written two cents. Your thoughts?
Ohh edit. What happened to val saying they will attack cata every week? You can't get better if you dont practice, mang.
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Eh.
I think the lack of giving a damn has to be part of it. People feel they have to be in great gear to TW or in some super serious faction.
I mean, there are plenty of poeple in random guilds they joined for fun where half the members are nabs (not the people im talking of b:chuckle) that could be very useful in TW, but they arnt in TW factions because said factions are too serious and dare not stoop so low as have some general nabish fun.
Add onto that that advertising a TW faction without a level req of 90+ tends to get you laughed at, and aiming for 90+ out the gate just makes a faction crash and burn.... Its hard to get anything going if you know what I mean. As for the factions that exist? Out of what you mentioned :
Kylin = Pretends to be nonRPK. Not going there.
Crimson = NonRPK. Not going there.
Mayhem = See above.
Afterlife = Well they pass the RPK check... But I dislike half the faction ( I love some of you, dont worry b:kiss).
If a faction doesnt have what I want, im not going to join, and most of the factions that have what I want dont TW, or suck at it / cant really make a proper go at it due to low attendence/geared population. Ya see the problem?
Im pretty sure many other people willing to TW bump into the exact same barriers, or simply wish to hang with their friends and that takes priority.
(Oh before someone leaps on me, im not some super ******* RPKer, I just like to kill people whenever I feel its appropriate, without risk of getting kicked from faction or looked down on by some nobjockey superior.)
When I hit 100 on this wiz I will choose somewhere tho... Just hope somewhere interesting forms by then....
...Man that doesnt get my point across very well at all. Someone will inevitably write what I meant to say, il quote them later lol.0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »Firstly, I never claim to be an epic factor in this game or anything of that nature, I enjoy playing this game the way I play it. I'm not some pro tw'er, I'm a scout and in pvp im squishy as hell. With that being said, I'd like to generate a discussion on this, as I've been thinking about it the past few days.
Most of the endgame people that I know enjoy tw the most out of any aspect of this game. But the current tw situation on Harshlands for Valhalla and Catalyst, and possibly kylin\crimson\mayhem\afterlife is pretty terrible. This is pretty much because... Catalyst can easily beat Val in 5 minutes, so val is just wasting money bidding on Catalyst. On the other hand, if val bids on anyone else they can easily onepush that guild, which is going to be mayhem\afterlife\cirmson\kylin. These four guilds are having epic tw's recently, and by val attacking those people they kind of ruin that for them. So it is pretty much a lose-lose situation for everyone on the server in the next little while if things continue.
As I sloppily write this, this could really be a continuation of Curses' topic. The solution to this is for the server to grow balls and start stacking guilds, whatever they are. If you don't do this soon, things are going to get really boring, really fast.
My sloppily written two cents. Your thoughts?
Ok, first of all, I quit pwi. So my opinion here is neutral. Even though I quit I still follow some developments on pwi cause my bro still plays it.
Now, if all the server had to unite under one tag to fight off Catalyst, the newly formed guild would be even worse in terms of organisation, team-work, faction spirit, etc than Valhalla is. This would put that newly formed guild in **** straight away and they would be simply a mindless group of players trying to decide the TW by themselves, cause they believe they are better than anyone else in the guild. Factions like Kylin, Crimson, Mayhem or Afterlife are growing as a GROUP and they will take their time and improve their TW skills as they fight against each other. If you take all the factors from those guilds, players that were so loyal to the guild and fight for the guild to succeed, players that serve as a reference for everyone on their respective guilds, you would ruin all of those factions. You would make TW fun for only those who spend "23 hours a day and 1 hour sleeping" or those who can afford to charge hundreds, or maybe thousands of dollars/pounds/euros,etc into the game.
I dont blame catalyst for gearing themselves as much as they could because they expected they would have some big competition ahead. I dont blame Valhalla for reuniting a group of players mainly focused to take over the map and ruin the TW fun. I dont even blame the sins for ruining pvp. I think if you really want to play pwi and compete, be prepared for deception or prepare your credit card and time spent on the game.(\__/)
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Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »
Kylin = Pretends to be nonRPK. Not going there.
Crimson = NonRPK. Not going there.
Mayhem = See above.
Afterlife = Well they pass the RPK check... But I dislike half the faction ( I love some of you, dont worry b:kiss).
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Crimson is non-rpk, and they enforce it and moderate it very well.
Also, I don't understand what rpk has to do with attacking another guild in tw, which all of these do on a weekly basis.0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »Kylin is rpk...
Crimson is non-rpk, and they enforce it and moderate it very well.
Also, I don't understand what rpk has to do with attacking another guild in tw, which all of these do on a weekly basis.
It has a lot to do with whether people will join a guild. TW isnt the only reason people will join. Why would I join a faction for TW if it prevents me from doing what I wish most of the rest of the time I play the game? Again im sure im not the only person who hits this barrier and refuses to bow to the will of another for just one small bonus. (Doing TW on a competent team).
I will never join Crimson for this reason, despite the fact that for the most part im more towards liking the guild overall than hating it. Its only once in a blue moon that I just want to drop some ******* for whatever long forgotten reason, but Crimson would punish (lol) me for it, because "nonRPK".
As for Kylin, well, wish id known earlier, nice to know they dropped the charade. In fact, I now officially like them 12.4% more.
Aaand as for factions starting up, thats another barrier. People who could end up being pretty good TWers leave their faction because they become a target if they are RPK, and recruitment has always been lower if they declare themselves as nonRPK.
~This is more of an observation as why people dont join existing guilds than as to why they dont fight, I know. More answering your question : More than likely, they just dont feel its worth the effort / they feel like they will simply be overpowered and have no fun.0 -
Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »It has a lot to do with whether people will join a guild. TW isnt the only reason people will join. Why would I join a faction for TW if it prevents me from doing what I wish most of the rest of the time I play the game? Again im sure im not the only person who hits this barrier and refuses to bow to the will of another for just one small bonus. (Doing TW on a competent team).
I will never join Crimson for this reason, despite the fact that for the most part im more towards liking the guild overall than hating it. Its only once in a blue moon that I just want to drop some ******* for whatever long forgotten reason, but Crimson would punish (lol) me for it, because "nonRPK".
As for Kylin, well, wish id known earlier, nice to know they dropped the charade. In fact, I now officially like them 12.4% more.
Aaand as for factions starting up, thats another barrier. People who could end up being pretty good TWers leave their faction because they become a target if they are RPK, and recruitment has always been lower if they declare themselves as nonRPK.
~This is more of an observation as why people dont join existing guilds than as to why they dont fight, I know. More answering your question : More than likely, they just dont feel its worth the effort / they feel like they will simply be overpowered and have no fun.
FTK list of Crimson:_Equinox_
AdultsUSA
AfterLife
Ares
BackStabR
Banished
bankaiGOD
Basilisk
BlackFox
Catalyst
CrimsonJr - faction of the best (scout) psychic of the server.
Deicide
DisOrdeR
Dragon7
Emperno
EMPEROR
EVOKE
Frogz
GEO
HATED
Helvette
Image
Jihad
Kylin
KoRuPtIoN
Mokona
NightOwls
Omerta
Pitbulls
PnButt
Q_Qmore
RedArmy
Rehab
Sexaholic
Shadow
SinPieDad
Smoke
SupremoS
TeamLiama
Thug life
Thug_Life
VaeVictis
Valhalla
Vendeta
Vongola
Watchers
WolfBlood
If you cant pk with all those factions above, it's because you're killing lowbies.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »As I sloppily write this, this could really be a continuation of Curses' topic. The solution to this is for the server to grow balls and start stacking guilds, whatever they are. If you don't do this soon, things are going to get really boring, really fast.
My sloppily written two cents. Your thoughts?
You kinda lost me. As you know, the other 4 big TW factions got their hands full fighting each other, so you won't really see much else from them for now. I guess it's up to Insanity? They still got 2 lands they need to take from Watchers I guess. You can also make a difference personally by leaving Catalyst and fight for the other side if you are not happy with how things are going b:chuckle.0 -
Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »FTK list of Crimson:
If you cant pk with all those factions above, it's because you're killing lowbies.
Ok, gimme your allies list Also, those factions contain many a lowbie, and on top of that, with an FTK that large, who the **** is actually safe from you? Aside anyone who knows how to play / isnt a lowbie I mean.
Also, might wanna put your KoS on your open forum, so people can know if its worth pointing out your peeps were RPKing a lot.
Been bugging me a lot lately that has, asking for people to apply and say theyl follow the rules / kill lists but having them locked in members only sections. I mean really, wtf. (Thats not just aimed at Crimson P:)0 -
Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »Ok, gimme your allies list Also, those factions contain many a lowbie, and on top of that, with an FTK that large, who the **** is actually safe from you? Aside anyone who knows how to play / isnt a lowbie I mean.
Also, might wanna put your KoS on your open forum, so people can know if its worth pointing out your peeps were RPKing a lot.
Been bugging me a lot lately that has, asking for people to apply and say theyl follow the rules / kill lists but having them locked in members only sections. I mean really, wtf. (Thats not just aimed at Crimson P:)
allie's list? lol> Mayhem, Insanity.
we dont have KoS, even when we were in open PvP war with Zulu
It's public if you register, only... You dont need to be a Crimson to know the list.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »allie's list? lol> Mayhem, Insanity.
we dont have KoS, even when we were in open PvP war with Zulu
It's public if you register, only... You dont need to be a Crimson to know the list.
See? Allies. If I drop some poor ikkle Mayhem youl curse me for it. b:cry
And why should I have to register just to see your KoS / rules? Applying to 20+ faction websites sucks *** x_x
That said, I might look into Crimson later.... Assuming I can still kill any particularly annoying allies on my alts b:sin0 -
Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »See? Allies. If I drop some poor ikkle Mayhem youl curse me for it. b:cry
And why should I have to register just to see your KoS / rules? Applying to 20+ faction websites sucks *** x_x
That said, I might look into Crimson later.... Assuming I can still kill any particularly annoying allies on my alts b:sin
to have allies is always nice. it's not a faction of 200 members we can have, but 600. It's how we won against Zulu 2 times b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »to have allies is always nice. it's not a faction of 200 members we can have, but 600. It's how we won against Zulu 2 times b:thanks
Considering the amount of times you lost... Thats no achievement.
Also tell your admin to approve my rulechecking account.
Stupid signup.
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My stupid weapon isnt good enough. Damn wand being devalued by rank salez and my **** refining QQ
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Okeano, I like it in catalyst. It's laidback chill and fun...
and I'm saying, valhalla will ahve to attack one of the four guilds having good wars soon, either wiping them off the map or whatever, causing them to have no fun wars anymore...0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »Okeano, I like it in catalyst. It's laidback chill and fun...
and I'm saying, valhalla will ahve to attack one of the four guilds having good wars soon, either wiping them off the map or whatever, causing them to have no fun wars anymore...
Well that's certainly their choice, and I'm sure the guild being attack won't just lay down to get walked over. I'm still not finding the point you are trying to convey. Are you saying two of the 4 should stack on Valhalla before Valhalla decide to attack one of them? Are you asking... I really don't know lol. Valhalla's choice to attack a guild other than Catalyst is pretty obvious so idk what pointing that out does.
I guess there isn't a central point to this since you didn't know how to title it xD. Next time don't just post w/e pops into your head b:chuckle.0 -
Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Well that's certainly their choice, and I'm sure the guild being attack won't just lay down to get walked over. I'm still not finding the point you are trying to convey. Are you saying two of the 4 should stack on Valhalla before Valhalla decide to attack one of them? Are you asking... I really don't know lol. Valhalla's choice to attack a guild other than Catalyst is pretty obvious so idk what pointing that out does.
I guess there isn't a central point to this since you didn't know how to title it xD. Next time don't just post w/e pops into your head b:chuckle.
Hey, this thread let me find out im not worthy of CRIMSON. This thread was ****ING AWESOME.0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »Okeano, I like it in catalyst. It's laidback chill and fun...
and I'm saying, valhalla will ahve to attack one of the four guilds having good wars soon, either wiping them off the map or whatever, causing them to have no fun wars anymore...
Ok, say a couple guilds stack you. What happens? The game doesn't stack wars in a decent manner and we end up with **** stacks, maybe say, random guild + afterlife vs cata, now we end up with random guild, cata, and afterlife all having **** wars. We could actually control this somewhat by coordinating where we bid on, but what are the chances everyone will work together like this?
I mean what's easier? Getting a core of 50-60 people with uber gears working together, or getting 300-400+ mediocre-geared people all in different factions to all somehow work together and agree with everything?
There's really no easy solution to this problem even though you make it sound easy. Cata will continue to roll every faction, maybe the re-release of medals will change what happens, maybe not. I doubt it. Meanwhile at least the Mayhem wars are enjoyable.
I can almost go afk and still live easily through a +5 R8 bow. Slowzz on the other hand crits me regularly for 4-6k fully buffed on autoshots, my gear is about as good as it can be pre-nirvana and pre-R9 (7500 hp, 10k p. def buffed). I haven't really fought any cata archers, but I'd imagine they'd hit for a similar amount on me. There's really not much strategy or tactics that could possibly help me when in a cata war I'd be a 2-4 shot for multiple archers all with more range than all of my skills combined.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »Considering the amount of times you lost... Thats no achievement.
Also tell your admin to approve my rulechecking account.
Stupid signup.
EDIT :
My stupid weapon isnt good enough. Damn wand being devalued by rank salez and my **** refining QQ
b:cry
lol, you dont remember well, I think.
we did only 2 times 3 stacked wars with 3 strong factions. everyone was biding on zulu.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte0 -
There isn't really a central point to this. Just thought I'd throw it out there that the funnest part of the game is boring and will be boring.
It's just a shame, and I thought I would bring it to peoples attention.0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »There isn't really a central point to this. Just thought I'd throw it out there that the funnest part of the game is boring and will be boring.
It's just a shame, and I thought I would bring it to peoples attention.
If you want TW then quit complaining and join a faction like crimson, afterlife, mayhem, or kylin. They have the best wars.
I mean it's not like cata will never take you back if you quit right? Or that being in kylin suddenly means you can't talk to your friends in cata? or use skype IRL? The only benefit you'd get from staying in cata is typing in GC.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »There isn't really a central point to this. Just thought I'd throw it out there that the funnest part of the game is boring and will be boring.
It's just a shame, and I thought I would bring it to peoples attention.
You like being in Catalyst but their TW is boring, so idk what you can do >_>. Kylin/Crimson TWs are pretty exciting and we'll have exciting TWs for months to come.0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »Firstly, I never claim to be an epic factor in this game or anything of that nature, I enjoy playing this game the way I play it. I'm not some pro tw'er, I'm a scout and in pvp im squishy as hell. With that being said, I'd like to generate a discussion on this, as I've been thinking about it the past few days.
Most of the endgame people that I know enjoy tw the most out of any aspect of this game. But the current tw situation on Harshlands for Valhalla and Catalyst, and possibly kylin\crimson\mayhem\afterlife is pretty terrible. This is pretty much because... Catalyst can easily beat Val in 5 minutes, so val is just wasting money bidding on Catalyst. On the other hand, if val bids on anyone else they can easily onepush that guild, which is going to be mayhem\afterlife\cirmson\kylin. These four guilds are having epic tw's recently, and by val attacking those people they kind of ruin that for them. So it is pretty much a lose-lose situation for everyone on the server in the next little while if things continue.
As I sloppily write this, this could really be a continuation of Curses' topic. The solution to this is for the server to grow balls and start stacking guilds, whatever they are. If you don't do this soon, things are going to get really boring, really fast.
My sloppily written two cents. Your thoughts?
Ohh edit. What happened to val saying they will attack cata every week? You can't get better if you dont practice, mang.
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Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »They gave my scout job to you? Nonsense, you're underqualified!
wtf man. This is a serious thread, stay on topic plzz. The fate of Harshlands, nay, the entire WORLD rests on the outcome of TW in the next few months on this server.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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It actually doesnt matter at all. Your attempts of trolling are really bad, burnout.
Seems like you are all missing the point, and as I'm writing this I can tell supercop okeano will come through challenging every word I say demanding solid proof and proper references.
Oh well. Three-Six months from now everyone will be making topics about stopping the evil Catalyst from dominating gatherings of pixels, thats if the game lasts that long.0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »It actually doesnt matter at all. Your attempts of trolling are really bad, burnout.
Seems like you are all missing the point, and as I'm writing this I can tell supercop okeano will come through challenging every word I say demanding solid proof and proper references.
Oh well. Three-Six months from now everyone will be making topics about stopping the evil Catalyst from dominating gatherings of pixels, thats if the game lasts that long.
Read my palm plox. I wanna know if its worth spending my last bit of cash on packs ^__^0 -
I enjoy how quickly you were able to respond. Even though you are one of most nonsense posters in our subforum... And reading palms isnt the same as saying the inevitable. If you knew anything about our server or the game, you would understand.
I guess history will repeat itself kkkkkk0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »I enjoy how quickly you were able to respond. Even though you are one of most nonsense posters in our subforum... And reading palms isnt the same as saying the inevitable. If you knew anything about our server or the game, you would understand.
I guess history will repeat itself kkkkkk
Im pretty bored in south arch listening to vent and trying to work out a plan as to what to do next. I can reply damn fast.
And its not inevitable, its just incredibly likely.0 -
If you factor in the responses from the people in this thread so far (Kylin, Afterlife) it is inevitable.0
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Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »If you factor in the responses from the people in this thread so far (Kylin, Afterlife) it is inevitable.
You have a point. Imma cling to hope still however, its the only reason I even log in, to hope **** improves0 -
Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »It actually doesnt matter at all. Your attempts of trolling are really bad, burnout.
Seems like you are all missing the point, and as I'm writing this I can tell supercop okeano will come through challenging every word I say demanding solid proof and proper references.Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »Oh well. Three-Six months from now everyone will be making topics about stopping the evil Catalyst from dominating gatherings of pixels, thats if the game lasts that long.0 -
So why did you make this thread then? To boast about how strong catalyst is and how everyone should band up together and stop you guys? Well no ****, really?
So you're mad that you're in the strongest faction on the server and no one can stop you so you get boring TW's, and yet you're unwilling to leave your faction to help remedy the situation?
...instead you're just gonna stand by and post condescending messages about how we're dumb for not all joining together and stopping your army of R9's. That's way more constructive.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yep. And I never once said how epic we are, we can field about 60-70 for a war, is that enough to defend a triple stack?
And why should I habe to leave the guild ive had the most fun in, in over 32 months of playing pwi, just because the server can win 20 vs 80? Even if I did leave I would accomplish absolutely nothing.
Btw you seem a little burnt out, brah.
@ okeano. Your right, I should have posted tjis in curses topic, but if I posted it there it wouldnt have generated the same response.0
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