Mystics And PK

Praxalis - Archosaur
Praxalis - Archosaur Posts: 190 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Mystic
Im sure someone somewhere has made a thread like this but I want to get some new updated feedback as well as post what's be working ,whats not be working for me and to see if there's anything I could do better.

Cultivation-Demon

Build-Pure mag but will be restating 50 vit after getting R8

Genie- 73 Strength Occult Ice, AD, Expel, Holy Path, EP

My Playstyle- Control heavy.

Skills I main-Devil Stun, Occult Ice, Gale, Thicket (if I have the sparks), Bramble Tornado (if the opponent is melee and they come rushing at me again after all the control skills have fell off)
I try to pin my opponent before they have a chance to touch me and deal damage between the Gale and Thicket phase while my pet is wailing on them. Considering whether I should toss down Listless + Lysing after hitting with Vengeance then Absorb Souling for a kill (as I heard Absorb Soul does not break sleep)

Swapping out Devil for Storm-Ive considered this as another control line option but I'm still not sure yet. Anyone have experience with using Storm in a control type playstyle?

Leeching Sally/Devil/Storm + Nature Barrier/IG...=Any use/has anyone tried this? It's mainly all theory atm since my timing is so horrible with this.

Plants in PK- I dont use them as much if at all-should I start incorporating them in a chain combo aside from the Listless in a control sequence?

Cragg Factor-though I love Thicket as my control playstyle fits it well, can Cragg be just as viable? Considering after a cloud eruption/chi pot after a thicket, summoning crag could be devastating...Any thoughts?





I guess you could say this is half of a question thread, third speculation and a third "share what's been working/tips/tricks/discussion". I know Mystics should be tailored specifically to whatever class they're PKing against but along with the specifics, I want to doubel check in on what's "generally" working.
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I was really disappointed with storm's silence seal when I got, it doesn't really feel like 3 seconds, it feels like lvl 1 force of will without the interrupt... It's mainly just been good for when a melee is rushing into me and giving me enough time to nature's or swirling right before knocking them back. So she can't really do much much with controlling but she can assist with it I guess.

    Listless is actually really nice on casters since it interrupts their channeling a lot and pretty nice on sins too actually. It can knock them out of stealth, but what I really love about it's effect on sins is when it interrupts their stun locking. Granted, they might use an anti stun unless they're noob and waste all their chi on sparking. :b

    I don't really use cragg in pvp simply because it's not hard for someone to just kill him, might be a different story if he came out with full hp though. Thicket is usually a lot more convenient, has an awesome freeze/seal for crazy amount of time, and if I have a pet out they can either help make sure I kill them before seal runs out or protect me long enough to respond to possible gank.

    Also with sins I think you'll find yourself using salvation most of the time.
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  • Blossorn - Lost City
    Blossorn - Lost City Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I was really disappointed with storm's silence seal when I got, it doesn't really feel like 3 seconds, it feels like lvl 1 force of will without the interrupt... It's mainly just been good for when a melee is rushing into me and giving me enough time to nature's or swirling right before knocking them back. So she can't really do much much with controlling but she can assist with it I guess.

    Listless is actually really nice on casters since it interrupts their channeling a lot and pretty nice on sins too actually. It can knock them out of stealth, but what I really love about it's effect on sins is when it interrupts their stun locking. Granted, they might use an anti stun unless they're noob and waste all their chi on sparking. :b

    I don't really use cragg in pvp simply because it's not hard for someone to just kill him, might be a different story if he came out with full hp though. Thicket is usually a lot more convenient, has an awesome freeze/seal for crazy amount of time, and if I have a pet out they can either help make sure I kill them before seal runs out or protect me long enough to respond to possible gank.

    Also with sins I think you'll find yourself using salvation most of the time.

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  • Yui_ - Harshlands
    Yui_ - Harshlands Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I was really disappointed with storm's silence seal when I got, it doesn't really feel like 3 seconds, it feels like lvl 1 force of will without the interrupt... It's mainly just been good for when a melee is rushing into me and giving me enough time to nature's or swirling right before knocking them back. So she can't really do much much with controlling but she can assist with it I guess.

    Listless is actually really nice on casters since it interrupts their channeling a lot and pretty nice on sins too actually. It can knock them out of stealth, but what I really love about it's effect on sins is when it interrupts their stun locking. Granted, they might use an anti stun unless they're noob and waste all their chi on sparking. :b

    I don't really use cragg in pvp simply because it's not hard for someone to just kill him, might be a different story if he came out with full hp though. Thicket is usually a lot more convenient, has an awesome freeze/seal for crazy amount of time, and if I have a pet out they can either help make sure I kill them before seal runs out or protect me long enough to respond to possible gank.

    Also with sins I think you'll find yourself using salvation most of the time.

    I will always use cragg if I have the defense to survive there attacks. Craggs damage always out preforms Thickets damage/effect for me.

    But! Saying this I will say i still use thicket a lot more than Cragg. Why?
    Because often times you are in a situation where you need to play more defensively.

    Or if your fighting a sin and just wanna try and 2 shot him before they try and vanish. ;P

    I just need a higher defense ratio before I can use cragglord more safely.
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I will always use cragg if I have the defense to survive there attacks. Craggs damage always out preforms Thickets damage/effect for me.

    But! Saying this I will say i still use thicket a lot more than Cragg. Why?
    Because often times you are in a situation where you need to play more defensively.

    Or if your fighting a sin and just wanna try and 2 shot him before they try and vanish. ;P

    I just need a higher defense ratio before I can use cragglord more safely.

    I think this is why I don't really find a use for him then since my style of pvping is making sure I survive while finding opportunities to deal as much dmg as possible.

    @Blossorn I just googled, "hamtaro gif" :o
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  • Praxalis - Archosaur
    Praxalis - Archosaur Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    PK'd a bit and found that the control style works really well. A good majority of people do not either pop an anti stun or get nuked by thicket w/ HF'd proc before it matters. But I still get owned by Sins occasionally if Im looking away for one second or if they're r8 +10 :/

    My only problem now is that I'm going to have a 1 v 1 soon with my hubby who's a R8 wizzy and he's already caught on to my tricks. If I don't blast him hard enough while he's vac'd, my controls are useless. So Im thinking just having crag chase him around a bit when he wastes time kiting it and burn off vac time because that thing hits like a truck. But outside of that I can't think of much else-I know there's something within my skill set I can do but Im not thinking hard enough.

    Storm + Leech (no stun/seal meaning no Mountain seize or FoW?)+ EP + pop IG/Zooming and attempt to nuke? Vac's are a pain :/

    Any suggestions?
  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    PK'd a bit and found that the control style works really well. A good majority of people do not either pop an anti stun or get nuked by thicket w/ HF'd proc before it matters. But I still get owned by Sins occasionally if Im looking away for one second or if they're r8 +10 :/

    My only problem now is that I'm going to have a 1 v 1 soon with my hubby who's a R8 wizzy and he's already caught on to my tricks. If I don't blast him hard enough while he's vac'd, my controls are useless. So Im thinking just having crag chase him around a bit when he wastes time kiting it and burn off vac time because that thing hits like a truck. But outside of that I can't think of much else-I know there's something within my skill set I can do but Im not thinking hard enough.

    Storm + Leech (no stun/seal meaning no Mountain seize or FoW?)+ EP + pop IG/Zooming and attempt to nuke? Vac's are a pain :/

    Any suggestions?

    Actually FoW still works even with energy leech buff because it doesn't effect movement at all. But this also means you can seal him with thicket and gale force while he's vac'd ;) But leeching storm might be a good idea if you predict a mountain seize coming, and the mag atk and def buffs are nice too. You could use storm's silence to get in a thicket on time, but be careful, because if her silence lasts too long then thicket's won't overwrite so you won't get the effect you want, but if you have good timing shouldn't be a problem. Then from there, you can use rapid growth and tear at his hp as much as possible or if you have chi pots on you, leech storm and summon cragg, and have a genie skill ready in case he sleeps you and tries to get off an ulti. If you want to save the pot cooldown for something defensive, then just rapid growth and try to finish it quick. I'm not really sure if absorb skill is really worth using on an end game wizzy since they tend to have decent pdef, but if you have the channeling for it go ahead and use it with the rapid growth combo. The whole issue with the vacs is pretty annoying having to find ways around them but not impossible .-.
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  • Praxalis - Archosaur
    Praxalis - Archosaur Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Ooooo niiice thanks for the heads up! If his FoW doesn't work he might possibly resort to Mountain Seize. Seeing me go after him with Storm though could make him burn FoW on the pet to make it run away which is perfect for me (unless he assumes vac will protect him with will come as a nasty surprise when he realizes it wont.) b:chuckle And I keep forgetting he has that dam sleep skill lol. Chi pot after thicket is going to require some timing because, on most other players that I manage to seal and freeze, my timing is off to where when I manage to pull crag out they've broken free. Maybe I should stop staring at all the pretty numbers lol. b:surrender

    Just hoping he wont get smart and check the forums for ways on how to combat everything-its too much to predict his predictions.

    Just a toss up on what combo I could pull off with the gear I got it seems. I'm liking my damage output as pure mag w/ R8 but I'm wondering if 50 vit is enough to gimp me to where I'll be charm ticking and no more. Will find more people to practice when he's not online out at West Gate :3