Going sage what are the max Aps?

Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide

soon i will be lvl 89 and i every Bm is going Demon cuz of the aps what aps is the max for sage BM cuz i don't wanna be one of "those" BM's but one of the few Sage BM's

hope you guys will tell me

knucks

Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide wrote: »

soon i will be lvl 89 and i every Bm is going Demon cuz of the aps what aps is the max for sage BM cuz i don't wanna be one of "those" BM's but one of the few Sage BM's


hope you guys will tell me

Max APS is 5 for either sage or demon. It is a good bit cheaper to achieve 5 aps with demon, there is a reason "those" bm's go demon, it is generally considered the smarter move.

Blaydewind - Raging Tide

Sage BM can obtain 5 APS through a genie with ~80 STR and the relentless courage skill to get a 25% attack rate boost (same one as Demon Spark). I personally have a 4 APS sage bm (my previous main character), but honestly, it would be in your best interest to actually choose the path on its functionality, rather than trying to be "different".

I will tell you that being a high APS sage bm isn't too bad, but it's expensive to reach higher APS. Demon is better overall, imo, but again, the choice is yours. If you're going to pick sage, at least know why you would pick it over demon besides being "different" as that is not a valid point in picking a culti path. Don't just throw the choice away and consider what you like most of each path. Compare and make the choice. Good luck.

Hexalot - Dreamweaver

Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide wrote: »

soon i will be lvl 89 and i every Bm is going Demon cuz of the aps what aps is the max for sage BM cuz i don't wanna be one of "those" BM's but one of the few Sage BM's

hope you guys will tell me

"cuz i don't wanna be one of "those" BM's"

If I didn't know better I'd swear we've just been trolled. b:avoid

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

The max BASE aps for sage or demon BM is 4.0 (assuming every piece of -int). You can then Cyclone Heel to 5.0, or use the genie skills Relentless Courage or Wind Shield (they overwrite your sparks damage reduction effect, though).

The main reason for demon for most BMs is the aps boost and getting 5.0 300+ mil (tome) earlier than a sage BM, but there are many other reasons to go demon. First off, there is almost not a single BM sage skill better than a demon skill, or at least not one worth basing your culti on. Demon has multiple, Like Demon HF, GS crit proc, demon DBB, demon bell, demon marrows. Yes, I do prefer demon bell over sage bell for its much larger def boost, even though the boost only lasts 15 seconds. Second reason is Sage can't achieve 5.0 with endgame G15 claws, meaning you will be stuck with G13 Deicides/Regicides and about a 20% dmg drop anyways. Also, As a demon you either free up genie spaces, or don't burn sparked time needing to cast cyclone.

Unfortunately, BMs don't have much of a culti choice, and people know that. Don't go demon and people will assume you don't understand your class, and honestly they're right.

Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide

The main reason for demon for most BMs is the aps boost and getting 5.0 300+ mil (tome) earlier than a sage BM, but there are many other reasons to go demon. First off, there is almost not a single BM sage skill better than a demon skill, or at least not one worth basing your culti on. Demon has multiple, Like Demon HF, GS crit proc, demon DBB, demon bell, demon marrows. Yes, I do prefer demon bell over sage bell for its much larger def boost, even though the boost only lasts 15 seconds. Second reason is Sage can't achieve 5.0 with endgame G15 claws, meaning you will be stuck with G13 Deicides/Regicides and about a 20% dmg drop anyways. Also, As a demon you either free up genie spaces, or don't burn sparked time needing to cast cyclone.

Unfortunately, BMs don't have much of a culti choice, and people know that. Don't go demon and people will assume you don't understand your class, and honestly they're right.[/QUOTE]

this maked me change my mind ur the only one that posted a serious post

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Deaths_Devil - Raging Tide wrote: »

The main reason for demon for most BMs is the aps boost and getting 5.0 300+ mil (tome) earlier than a sage BM, but there are many other reasons to go demon. First off, there is almost not a single BM sage skill better than a demon skill, or at least not one worth basing your culti on. Demon has multiple, Like Demon HF, GS crit proc, demon DBB, demon bell, demon marrows. Yes, I do prefer demon bell over sage bell for its much larger def boost, even though the boost only lasts 15 seconds. Second reason is Sage can't achieve 5.0 with endgame G15 claws, meaning you will be stuck with G13 Deicides/Regicides and about a 20% dmg drop anyways. Also, As a demon you either free up genie spaces, or don't burn sparked time needing to cast cyclone.

Unfortunately, BMs don't have much of a culti choice, and people know that. Don't go demon and people will assume you don't understand your class, and honestly they're right.

this maked me change my mind ur the only one that posted a serious post[/QUOTE]

G 15 claws seem pretty overated for pvp, would much rather have 25% more attack speed and a 10% amp from g 13 than 10-15% (depending on str) dph unproced

for Pve ya revenge claws are absolute sex, but if you can afford the 800 or so mill for the 320 or so raps (250 base 70 for rerolling) chienkun stones and such...why are you still farming?

Okeano - Harshlands

What? No, by all means, go sage to be different.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

With all the people who post here saying "I want to be different", I'm amazed we dont have at least 200 sage sword BMs on every server.

Akame_Iga - Dreamweaver

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

The max BASE aps for sage or demon BM is 4.0 (assuming every piece of -int). You can then Cyclone Heel to 5.0, or use the genie skills Relentless Courage or Wind Shield (they overwrite your sparks damage reduction effect, though).

The main reason for demon for most BMs is the aps boost and getting 5.0 300+ mil (tome) earlier than a sage BM, but there are many other reasons to go demon. First off, there is almost not a single BM sage skill better than a demon skill, or at least not one worth basing your culti on. Demon has multiple, Like Demon HF, GS crit proc, demon DBB, demon bell, demon marrows. Yes, I do prefer demon bell over sage bell for its much larger def boost, even though the boost only lasts 15 seconds. Second reason is Sage can't achieve 5.0 with endgame G15 claws, meaning you will be stuck with G13 Deicides/Regicides and about a 20% dmg drop anyways. Also, As a demon you either free up genie spaces, or don't burn sparked time needing to cast cyclone.

Unfortunately, BMs don't have much of a culti choice, and people know that. Don't go demon and people will assume you don't understand your class, and honestly they're right.

But you can cast sage cyclone heel before you spark as it last 5 more seconds before you spark should give 2 seconds in advance + as sage with sage fist skill updated you get 90% damage boost contra 75% with demon fist skill = in my book you would be on pair with a demon DD wise if not even better + everytime you spark you get 25% defence for the duration at 700% damage add on for 15 seconds... but ya it is costly as you need any int thing, but worth doing depending on your goals... want to be more squishy or less squishy is the idealogy while basically pounding the same damge +15%

If you go sage by the way, which I did... you would understand your class better... and honestly it is not correct that the choice should be demon... can give alot of reasons to it... demon BM vs mag class = twice as dead as a sage that really can benefit from it other ways around and take much lesser damage but still be dishing out insane amounts... personally I want to be different.

Set a sage and a demon bm against each other with exact same gear... max skills and more... each spark to pound each other at 5aps... Sage BM will win 10 out of 10 times due to it.

Akame_Iga - Dreamweaver

Be different go sage BM with fists or something. you hit harder and can do more stuff but it requires alot of coin or luck to get there as you need any int item in game including expensive int tome.

You take less damage sparked you will be beastly, I see no reason why not to become a sage BM... dunno made my own sage BM not regretting it I do more damage than majority of Demon BMs even with similiar gear.. and what they can't take down I can as funny as it might sound.

krisnda

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