Class armor for fashion?

Asone - Raging Tide

Unless I missed something when I was researching, I'm a bit discouraged that there aren't many armor choices in late levels specifically designed for your class as far as it went looking like it belonged to your race.

But beyond the -lv20 noob armor (this doesn't even include the first 3 races) and Rank 8, there doesn't seem to be an interesting armor look.

Don't know if there are any updates in the future whenever and if they ever rise the level cap. But I seriously hope so. I get bored of looking like everyone else, and fashion tends to grow old after awhile.

There's also a fact that's hard to make a good male fashion combo. b:sweat

Anyone else got opinions?

Infernia - Harshlands

Want : TT80 Green lookalike fashion.

Sexy Clericz all round :

http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/images/a/a2/Cleric1.jpg b:dirtyb:dirtyb:dirty

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Want : TT80 Green lookalike fashion.

Sexy Clericz all round :

http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/images/a/a2/Cleric1.jpg b:dirtyb:dirtyb:dirty

Oh yeah.. I'd hit it... b:dirty

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear

As someone who sometimes runs off to the tailor and grab some random armor just to wear, I highly approve of this. This is actually something that should be easy to do.

...Facing reality it will most likely never happen.

ColdSnow - Dreamweaver

i find all robes ugly, do something about it

Infernia - Harshlands

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

As someone who sometimes runs off to the tailor and grab some random armor just to wear, I highly approve of this. This is actually something that should be easy to do.

...Facing reality it will most likely never happen.

Random Task : Go buy Veteran Armor of Greatness (I think thats the lookalike to TT80LA Green b:question) and wear / screenie it for us

I wanna see how a barb looks in it b:chuckle

Waterfal - Sanctuary

Ever since the first time I saw a lvl 60+ run around I've loved this armour... I even thought it was fash back then and wanted it.. so badly..
http://ecatomb.net/armure/mf-07.jpg

ILubby - Raging Tide

Well that's the point of fugly armors - to make you buy fashion.

jiq

I'd love the Necromancy set as fash. xD (lvl10-ish AA)

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Random Task : Go buy Veteran Armor of Greatness (I think thats the lookalike to TT80LA Green b:question) and wear / screenie it for us

I wanna see how a barb looks in it b:chuckle

http://imageshack.us/m/135/528/20110511114333.jpg
http://imageshack.us/m/94/4955/20110511114349.jpg

^q^
A bit... expensive, but w/e.

Kieve - Dreamweaver

And people thought I was weird for liking the lvl 60 LA.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/Kieve/PWI/M_Serrated.jpg

For the longest time, I did want the TT80 Lunar Chaser stuff, but could never get over the lower cut of the chestpiece - don't like the bare-chest look on it at all, and it pretty much ruined the set for me.

And it may as well be mentioned - since PW's fashion and armor equips both take the same slots (arms, chest, legs, boots), the models themselves are more or less interchangeable. So it would be little more than some database work to make "fashion" versions of armor. However, enabling dyes would be another matter since armor textures use the alpha channel as a specular map to achieve their shiny look, whereas fashion employs it as a guide for color-mapping*.
*[/Tech]: the shiny bits of your armor would be the only ones to change color.

Infernia - Harshlands

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

http://imageshack.us/m/135/528/20110511114333.jpg
http://imageshack.us/m/94/4955/20110511114349.jpg

^q^
A bit... expensive, but w/e.

b:chuckle Epic. If you ever come to HL, remind me of this thread and il pay you back ;P

On a side note, it actually looks pretty good. A little stretched (Huge barb so ofc) but the style = win. Gogo HolyPaladinbarb.

Waterfal - Sanctuary

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And people thought I was weird for liking the lvl 60 LA.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/Kieve/PWI/M_Serrated.jpg

For the longest time, I did want the TT80 Lunar Chaser stuff, but could never get over the lower cut of the chestpiece - don't like the bare-chest look on it at all, and it pretty much ruined the set for me.

And it may as well be mentioned - since PW's fashion and armor equips both take the same slots (arms, chest, legs, boots), the models themselves are more or less interchangeable. So it would be little more than some database work to make "fashion" versions of armor. However, enabling dyes would be another matter since armor textures use the alpha channel as a specular map to achieve their shiny look, whereas fashion employs it as a guide for color-mapping*.
*[/Tech]: the shiny bits of your armor would be the only ones to change color.

It looks awesome imo ^^

Also I wouldn't even want to color the set I want as fash if it was fash b:chuckle The only problem I see is.. how much people would actually buy it hardly any I guess x'D

Infernia - Harshlands

Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »

It looks awesome imo ^^

Also I wouldn't even want to color the set I want as fash if it was fash b:chuckle The only problem I see is.. how much people would actually buy it hardly any I guess x'D

You underestimate the amount of barbs who would wear a set of fake Nirvana robes "for teh lulz"

fuzzywuzz

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

You underestimate the amount of barbs who would wear a set of fake Nirvana robes "for teh lulz"

The panda is one of those barbs. A full set of Dragon Rise AA would be awsome! b:chuckle

ILubby - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well that's the point of fugly armors - to make you buy fashion.

Not all armour is fugly. Fuzzy thinks there are a number of sets that look good "as fashion". The 80gold Feng's complete set is pretty nifty, as is the OHT Polaris Clarity set. Not to mention the Cascade Glow. b:dirty

Infernia - Harshlands

FuzzyWuzz wrote: »

The panda is one of those barbs. A full set of Dragon Rise AA would be awsome! b:chuckle



Not all armour is fugly. Fuzzy thinks there are a number of sets that look good "as fashion". The 80gold Feng's complete set is pretty nifty, as is the OHT Polaris Clarity set. Not to mention the Cascade Glow. b:dirty

Oh my, the OHT armors... I think I just... b:shy my pants.

Im going to get my hands on a fullset for fun. Or I could risk my Lunar Green (Eventually planned for Gold - Nirvana but itl never happen lol) for some tempting OHT Gold.... Hmm....

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear

Way ahead of ya, keph:

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1220/20100627153242.jpg
http://imageshack.us/m/101/799/20100627153129.jpg

And this was almost a year ago. b:surrender


-Adding on OHT: http://imageshack.us/m/41/5889/20110511131440.jpg
I used to receive PMs when I wore it about how awesome it looked. Nowadays people just want to see Rank 9.

Asone - Raging Tide

Dude Yukkuri, that looks even more awesome then Rank 9!

However, enabling dyes would be another matter since armor textures use the alpha channel as a specular map to achieve their shiny look, whereas fashion employs it as a guide for color-mapping*.
*[/Tech]: the shiny bits of your armor would be the only ones to change color.

That might actually be interesting.

Infernia - Harshlands

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Way ahead of ya, keph:

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1220/20100627153242.jpg
http://imageshack.us/m/101/799/20100627153129.jpg

And this was almost a year ago. b:surrender


-Adding on OHT: http://imageshack.us/m/41/5889/20110511131440.jpg
I used to receive PMs when I wore it about how awesome it looked. Nowadays people just want to see Rank 9.

Ive got gold sleeves, ive got the lunar chest + pantz and its not hard to get boots.

You made me choose OHT Gold for its looks alone

Thanks for the reminder of its awesomeness-ness.

Kieve - Dreamweaver

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Way ahead of ya, keph:
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1220/20100627153242.jpg
http://imageshack.us/m/101/799/20100627153129.jpg
And this was almost a year ago. b:surrender

-Adding on OHT: http://imageshack.us/m/41/5889/20110511131440.jpg
I used to receive PMs when I wore it about how awesome it looked. Nowadays people just want to see Rank 9.

Never did make it as far as OHT, but I used to get those PMs too, as well as "Why are you wearing light armor? o_O" Wolves look pretty awesome as well I see.
(also - I quit playing about nine months ago - I was in my 60's before anni-packs rolled out, so you're not "way ahead of me" XD but that's nitpicking. LA barbs ftw!)

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear

Asone - Raging Tide wrote: »

Dude Yukkuri, that looks even more awesome then Rank 9!

Your mileage may vary, but with a little bit of private server power, I can make Rank 9 look like it's worth something.

I was starting my 90's when them Anniversary Packs invaded. ZING

Waterfal - Sanctuary

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

You underestimate the amount of barbs who would wear a set of fake Nirvana robes "for teh lulz"

hehehe... Maybe I do... xD

Kieve - Dreamweaver

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I was starting my 90's when them Anniversary Packs invaded. ZING

b:chuckle Yeah yeah, zing away. Wasn't meaning it to be a contest or anything.
Did make me wonder how long ago it was though, so I went digging - my forum join date was May 2009, at which point I was using this as a sig (until switching to the MediaWorks one). EDIT: Some older screenshots with TT60 axes date back to the end of April (4-27-2009), so somewhere between end of April & beginning of May, then?
We've both been 'strange' for a long while I guess. b:surrender

Epic timing on the R9 shot, by the way.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Your mileage may vary, but with a little bit of private server power, I can make Rank 9 look like it's worth something.

I was starting my 90's when them Anniversary Packs invaded. ZING

.................<3

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear

Luv ya, keph. b:cute

Double off topic: You're not doing more videos, aren't you?

Kieve - Dreamweaver

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Luv ya, keph. b:cute

Double off topic: You're not doing more videos, aren't you?

I may have one more in me, when I finish the female version of [check PMs]. Otherwise, my focus is elsewhere. I've wanted to work with my own material for a very very long time.

As to the topic of the thread... the only flaw I can really see is the Specular->Color-map issue I mentioned. Armor would lose its shine and you'd have weird colors until you dyed it back to white (since all fash comes random-color at first). But otherwise, there's no technical reason why it'd be "impossible." Hell, barbs can wear headfash even, the devs are just mean and don't let us.
b:cry

Infernia - Harshlands

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I may have one more in me, when I finish the female version of [check PMs]. Otherwise, my focus is elsewhere. I've wanted to work with my own material for a very very long time.

As to the topic of the thread... the only flaw I can really see is the Specular->Color-map issue I mentioned. Armor would lose its shine and you'd have weird colors until you dyed it back to white (since all fash comes random-color at first). But otherwise, there's no technical reason why it'd be "impossible." Hell, barbs can wear headfash even, the devs are just mean and don't let us.
b:cry

Am I the only one who clicked "Check PMs", got taken to their inbox and then felt very,very stupid? b:surrender

Waterfal - Sanctuary

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I may have one more in me, when I finish the female version of [check PMs]. Otherwise, my focus is elsewhere. I've wanted to work with my own material for a very very long time.

As to the topic of the thread... the only flaw I can really see is the Specular->Color-map issue I mentioned. Armor would lose its shine and you'd have weird colors until you dyed it back to white (since all fash comes random-color at first). But otherwise, there's no technical reason why it'd be "impossible." Hell, barbs can wear headfash even, the devs are just mean and don't let us.
b:cry

Well... why not make the armour-fashion undyable and fixed color O_o I mean, I know some of the female fash is ^^ Can't see why armour can't be a fixed color then
(unless I'm saying something really stupid now xD )

Kieve - Dreamweaver

Waterfal - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well... why not make the armour-fashion undyable and fixed color O_o I mean, I know some of the female fash is ^^ Can't see why armour can't be a fixed color then
(unless I'm saying something really stupid now xD )

Not stupid, but it's not something most people will realize unless they know how PW handles texture mapping, and/or have dug around in the game's guts a bit. So! A little Texturing 101 for ya:

PWI uses .DDS texture format, which stores two images: the "Diffuse" base texture, which you see, and an Alpha Channel texture which works behind the scenes.
DDS Texture + Alpha
For armor that channel specifies the places where metal gets shiny - trim, bright points, sharp edges, mainly. For clothing, PWI reads that channel in a different way - as a place to map and overlay pigments. So, say you have a piece of "Fashion" armor, and you buy it from the boutique dyed bright green.
Alpha as color-map
Not very pretty, is it? Note that only the parts that were highlighted in white (shiny bits) get the full effect of the color, the rest of it is left pretty much alone. Certain fashions (those that can't be dyed) have an all-black Alpha channel. They still have color - you can see this if you mouse over them, they show the "dyed" color, but because their Alpha Channel doesn't have any mapping for the pigment, it doesn't affect the Diffuse layer, and so you only see the one, fixed color.
If you were to go into the textures and change that alpha channel to white, the "dye" your fixed-color item has would suddenly appear. Worse, since it's registered in the database as "unable to be dyed," you couldn't change that color - it's stuck with whatever you bought it as.

tl;dr - to make "fashion armor," PW would have to modify the textures (specifically the alpha channel) of every armor piece in the game, in order to correct the dye/pigment issue. Or simply leave it as-is and make a killing on white/black/red dyes.

This concludes today's lesson. b:victory

EDIT: lol, Infernia. b:chuckle Sorry, wasn't intentionally trolling...
EDIT 2: fixed second image link

Infernia - Harshlands

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Not stupid, but it's not something most people will realize unless they know how PW handles texture mapping, and/or have dug around in the game's guts a bit. So! A little Texturing 101 for ya:

PWI uses .DDS texture format, which stores two images: the "Diffuse" base texture, which you see, and an Alpha Channel texture which works behind the scenes.
DDS Texture + Alpha
For armor that channel specifies the places where metal gets shiny - trim, bright points, sharp edges, mainly. For clothing, PWI reads that channel in a different way - as a place to map and overlay pigments. So, say you have a piece of "Fashion" armor, and you buy it from the boutique dyed bright green.
Alpha as color-map
Not very pretty, is it? Note that only the parts that were highlighted in white (shiny bits) get the full effect of the color, the rest of it is left pretty much alone. Certain fashions (those that can't be dyed) have an all-black Alpha channel. They still have color - you can see this if you mouse over them, they show the "dyed" color, but because their Alpha Channel doesn't have any mapping for the pigment, it doesn't affect the Diffuse layer, and so you only see the one, fixed color.
If you were to go into the textures and change that alpha channel to white, the "dye" your fixed-color item has would suddenly appear. Worse, since it's registered in the database as "unable to be dyed," you couldn't change that color - it's stuck with whatever you bought it as.

tl;dr - to make "fashion armor," PW would have to modify the textures (specifically the alpha channel) of every armor piece in the game, in order to correct the dye/pigment issue. Or simply leave it as-is and make a killing on white/black/red dyes.

This concludes today's lesson. b:victory

EDIT: lol, Infernia. b:chuckle Sorry, wasn't intentionally trolling...

DW, I thought youd done some comedy or something about the PMs people get on PW. (I want royalties if you use that idea b:shutup)

As for the armor, im sure that the "undyable" flag could be applied without having to make the colour black couldnt it? I mean, the programming cant be that ****.... Wait this is PW, yes it can, ignore me. b:bye

Yukkuri - Heavens Tear

My pants have been wet! ^q^

No wonder you talked firmly and with knowledge. There is a little something I'd like to discuss with you, so if you ever decide to pass by HT's North Arch and find me, it would be lovely. (I'm not pm-friendly).