Question About Perfect World.

wulfgar85

I am looking to come back to Perfect world. I didn't play it very much the first time i had it but i thought i would try it again. My question is this. Can this game still be fun if a don't plan on buying any items from the item mall. Will still be able to make a decent player with out using the item mall?

Escorian - Dreamweaver

wulfgar85 wrote: »

I am looking to come back to Perfect world. I didn't play it very much the first time i had it but i thought i would try it again. My question is this. Can this game still be fun if a don't plan on buying any items from the item mall. Will still be able to make a decent player with out using the item mall?

no b:bye

endlesstorture

Who buys from the Item Mall? Everything there is more expensive. Its cheaper to buy from people. Only thing cheaper in the Item Mall that is worth it is the Rep if you want rank 8 and packs sales, but dont buy packs. You will have to CashShop and sell AH gold later in game to get coins for gears and tokens and skills and other stuff.

wulfgar85

I guess i'll give it a shot.

Lurani - Raging Tide

Ehh depends on what level you want to hit.
And how many hours a week your willing to put into the game playing/merching/farming.

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

wulfgar85 wrote: »

I am looking to come back to Perfect world. I didn't play it very much the first time i had it but i thought i would try it again. My question is this. Can this game still be fun if a don't plan on buying any items from the item mall. Will still be able to make a decent player with out using the item mall?

Sorry to tell you this but no it isn't... Well it is untill lvl 60 but then it starts being less fun... The biggest changes are that you'll be making less coin and gold prices have rose to over 1,1 mil... Also at higher lvles ppl expect you to have overpowered gear wich is so expensive you'll have to grind for months, maybe even years... If you don't mind working realy, realy hard you might just be able to keep up with the others tough... Best way to find out is to try out...

Lurani - Raging Tide

Gold wont be at 1.1mil = 1gold for long....
Prices just increase to a million when packs/new clothing all that crud comes out.
Then they drop to 800k-900k...even tho those prices are pretty nuts.

endlesstorture

1 dollar = 1million coins. To Max your skills you will need 60 to 100mil+ depending the class.
+ all the gears and repiars you have to get. And All the Quest only gives less than 10mil coins maybe lol. This game is really designed for you to spend your $money$$ to continue playing

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

endlesstorture wrote: »

1 dollar = 1million coins. To Max your skills you will need 60 to 100mil+ depending the class.
+ all the gears and repiars you have to get. And All the Quest only gives less than 10mil coins maybe lol. This game is really designed for you to spend your $money$$ to continue playing

Sad but true... b:surrender

Lurani - Raging Tide

That would all also depend on the fact if your going demon or sage, and on what toon.
From what i witnessed demon books (except some) go for way cheaper then the sage books. Usually going sage is the more expensive way to go. That and usually for all the classes, you don't have to get every single skill to level 10 then get it to sage/demon, since some skills are useless and are good enough at just level 1. Have to place that into consideration.

krittycat

Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »

no b:bye

Hai troll.b:bye

Note what the OP said...

wulfgar85 wrote: »

...Can this game still be fun if a don't plan on buying any items from the item mall. Will still be able to make a decent player with out using the item mall?

I see both of those things as possible. It really depends on your definitions of fun and decent. I have made quite a few friends, and enjoy spending time online with them. That is my definition of "fun" - enjoying myself and taking my time. My definition of decent involves not dying walking into a few mobs around my level. While I may not ever get into a Nirvana run, I still can have decent enough gear.

Please at least consider the question before answering in such a dismissive manner.b:thanks

LordBellmont - Archosaur

well all i want to know is how to you tell the ADMIIN that there may be a bug? cuse i cant play the new race of players. i meen i have made new players and i can play the game but when i make a new Earthguard i cant play the game at all! WTF!? right? can some one help me?

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

KrittyCat wrote: »

Hai troll.b:bye

Note what the OP said...



I see both of those things as possible. It really depends on your definitions of fun and decent. I have made quite a few friends, and enjoy spending time online with them. That is my definition of "fun" - enjoying myself and taking my time. My definition of decent involves not dying walking into a few mobs around my level. While I may not ever get into a Nirvana run, I still can have decent enough gear.

Please at least consider the question before answering in such a dismissive manner.b:thanks

I was just being honnest... b:surrender

@wulfgar85: If decide to try out and you're looking for someone to chat with or to do stuff with when you're a bit higher even if you don't have the best available gear feel free to let me know... Always happy to get to know more ppl especialy friendly ones... I only play on Heaven's Tear though so I can't be there for you on other servers... b:cute

VonCrowley - Sanctuary

well all i want to know is how to you tell the ADMIIN that there may be a bug? cuse i cant play the new race of players. i meen i have made new players and i can play the game but when i make a new Earthguard i cant play the game at all! WTF!? right? can some one help me?

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

VonCrowley - Sanctuary wrote: »

well all i want to know is how to you tell the ADMIIN that there may be a bug? cuse i cant play the new race of players. i meen i have made new players and i can play the game but when i make a new Earthguard i cant play the game at all! WTF!? right? can some one help me?

Send in a ticket might help... But it can take up to 2 weeks before they respond... It can also be that your pc is just a little to old for the new Earthguard area... Can you fly there without problems with one of your other character(s)?

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear

Well I started playing PWI originally back in October 08 (on 2-3 other characters), and was pretty active until September last year when I took a break. Just came back a week ago though.

To be honest I used to cash shop a little bit and I still do occassionally. However, I don't think it's extremely necessary. I'm pretty certain that Twilight Temple, which you'll run a bit more once you're in your mid 50s and onward for gear, can end up being a good way to make money. You can sell the materials you farm from them. I used to solo farm TT on my veno, until they sort of messed up the 3-X instances to where it's kinda impossible to do. At least it was for me... but anyway that's where I made a lot of my money.

Also if you're clever with your merchanting and buy/sell items that are in demand or are at least common enough you know they'll never go "out of style" you'll pretty much be set. I've seen people not spend a dime on this game who made a hell of a lot more than I ever did. It just takes patience, and a lot of time (if you're willing and able to keep either your character or an alternate character on a separate account logged in as a shop 24/7). Of course you need a separate computer if you want an alt shop. It's really up to you and how much time you intend to spend on PW.

Sorry for the long post lol. Hope it helps a little at least, and good luck if you choose to come back!

Lurani - Raging Tide

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Of course you need a separate computer if you want an alt shop.

Not necessary rules have been changed (again woopyy doo). You can now double client if you wish. No need for a second computer.

RosangeIa - Heavens Tear

Lurani - Raging Tide wrote: »

Not necessary rules have been changed (again woopyy doo). You can now double client if you wish. No need for a second computer.

Oh really? Well that's a relief... cuz that's how I've always done it. :X Even if I do have a second computer, it's just... more energy efficient to run two clients on the same machine lol.

Lurani - Raging Tide

Yeah lol, can read more about the change here. (:
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1052691

Sir_Puma - Raging Tide

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sad but true... b:surrender

Why are people so negative about the game ?

Let's see now :

Skills books can be very costy at high level : True

You can find friends, make squad and actually get them as drop/farm them: Also true


Items and armor get very costy at high level : True

You can find friends, make squad and actually get mats as drop/farm them : Also true


You will need high level gear to be up to date and get invited to high level instances : True

You can find friends and make squad and go do them with them : Also true


Notice something here (except I was repeating myself) ?

Mitachi - Dreamweaver

if you have merchanting skills yes. I merchant i love sales, ive made 70mil with this current pack sale alreadyb:pleased

Lurani - Raging Tide

Sir_Puma - Raging Tide wrote: »

Why are people so negative about the game ?

Let's see now :

Skills books can be very costy at high level : True

You can find friends, make squad and actually get them as drop/farm them: Also true


Items and armor get very costy at high level : True

You can find friends, make squad and actually get mats as drop/farm them : Also true


You will need high level gear to be up to date and get invited to high level instances : True

You can find friends and make squad and go do them with them : Also true


Notice something here (except I was repeating myself) ?

Yay friends!

...well unless your a loner on the server like me.
Then yay rolling around till you get a random squad for things, or join FBs.

But yeah anything in game is possible with out spending money, just because others spend thousands of dollars on the game doesn't automatically mean that you have to do the same. Majority of the people that do spend a ridiculous amount of money are either on PvP servers and don't have any real time to farm/etc so they spend the doe on things. Or they have the money to spend on **** like games with out worrying about there income. Then the addicts who really have no money to spend, end up taking loans on the **** they own juts to get top gear on a virtual game. b:shocked


Cuz i mean come on guys, who needs to eat when you can be all 'cool' on a virtual MMO with your awesome rank gear!

ChloeAgave - Archosaur

Yeah, you can, it really is not as hard as people make it out to be. Every time I make a character, it is completely self sufficient. I do not transfer money between characters, except to my Cleric, but my Cleric is used to make my own gear, so the money is used to buy mats and molds. My characters all fund their own skills, their own repairs, their own pots, their own mounts, their own fashion, their own gear. I've been doing this for nearly three years here, being completely self sufficient. The only time I am not is when I don't have the manufacturing level to create something, which a friend or faction mate will do for me (providing I have the mats (and mold).

I'm not gonna lie, it's no walk in the park. You have to be willing to slow down on leveling (which compared to when you last played probably, is a hell of a lot faster) and work on getting those. If you would like, I can give you advice on how I do it personally. If you happen to decide to play on Archosaur server, I'd even be willing to help you.

What you need to remember though is that some of it is kind of ridiculous, but it works. Hell, right now I'm about to start a new method to see if it works, and if so I'll be rolling in some pretty good money from it. If not, it will be fun to try.

Anyways, regardless, I'll leave you with a little piece of advice that is fairly common knowledge. When you create a character, you will get an item from the starter NPC called a supply chest. At level 40 (or 45, can't remember which) you will get 500 Perfect Stones. These are actually a good start into merchanting, especially now that we are allowed to multi-client (see here) you can run a shop all day, even while you play another character.

Just look around shops, see what people are selling them for (on Archosaur, about 1.2-1.5k right now) and sell for that. Keep one though, and use it as your "buy" item and buy them at about 200-300 less. As long as you do this and avoid spending the money you make from it, you can start to make several hundred thousand a day, and eventually a few million each day. It takes a while, and you have to have a good location to sell (west Archosaur, somewhere in that area), and be aware of any shops around you selling them so you don't get undercut.

As I am now starting to get into the merchanting, I'm sure my characters complete self sufficiency will decline, as they will all share a single "bank" of money. However, for the most part that money will be used more towards any emergencies I find them in need of, or just for certain pleasures such as charms and such.

Now at the end of this wall, just remember that it is possible to play this game completely free and still enjoy it. I've never spent a dime on this game, and I probably never will. Just be patient, give it time, and be smart with your money, and you will do fine.

So, should you choose to play on my server, just give me a PM in game and I'd be happy to help you out. Or just PM me on here and I'll give you a list of my characters.

Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear

Lurani - Raging Tide wrote: »

Yay friends!

...well unless your a loner on the server like me.
Then yay rolling around till you get a random squad for things, or join FBs.

But yeah anything in game is possible with out spending money, just because others spend thousands of dollars on the game doesn't automatically mean that you have to do the same. Majority of the people that do spend a ridiculous amount of money are either on PvP servers and don't have any real time to farm/etc so they spend the doe on things. Or they have the money to spend on **** like games with out worrying about there income. Then the addicts who really have no money to spend, end up taking loans on the **** they own juts to get top gear on a virtual game. b:shocked


Cuz i mean come on guys, who needs to eat when you can be all 'cool' on a virtual MMO with your awesome rank gear!

Totaly agree... b:victory

wulfgar85

Thank you everyone with the helpful replys. I'm going to give the game a shot when i come home tonight.