Out of curisoty? How many of you guys are high strength?(D :)

Yuniryu - Raging Tide

Hello i know there has been tons of build disscuisons.

But i am curious to see how many seeker are actually high strength. I have seen balanced seeker builds and some vit builds but i really curious about the high strength. I want to see if its a big deal and why people pick it over the balance.

Plus i am curious to go high strength toob:dirtyb:dirty

b:surrender

lizrau

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5str, 3dex, 2vit untill I cap my vit. then str build.

Yuniryu - Raging Tide

lizrau wrote: »

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5str, 3dex, 2vit untill I cap my vit. then str build.

Kewl.b:laugh. I just wonder if anyone is pure high str. b:pleased

Omea - Lost City

Pure str, and loving it.

RodaPiao - Raging Tide

I got tank build, so I got more HP to have much more fun b:laughb:victory

Yuniryu - Raging Tide

Kewl. b:pleased. Well i about to be a high strength, i finally made up my mind. I want power. !b:victory

Alsiadorra - Sanctuary

225 str, 161 dex right now. Going for 191dex at lvl90. I've been putting points into dex since level 80 as I wont need any str til lvl90 for TT90. Str is kinda useless and only needed for armor requirements it seems. Though that's not to say those who put more points into it are "doing it wrong".

If my calculations are correct, by lvl99 I'll have 260str and 206dex. This is fine for me.

I used to be pro-pure str, but it caused me some survival issues in the beginning.

Also I only have 39vit(50 with tome). I've tanked all my BHs and I tank in FCC. A seeker IMO doesn't need 100+ vit. Just to throw that out there if you're trying to cram for more points to put into str.

Yuniryu - Raging Tide

Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »

225 str, 161 dex right now. Going for 191dex at lvl90. I've been putting points into dex since level 80 as I wont need any str til lvl90 for TT90. Str is kinda useless and only needed for armor requirements it seems. Though that's not to say those who put more points into it are "doing it wrong".

If my calculations are correct, by lvl99 I'll have 260str and 206dex. This is fine for me.

I used to be pro-pure str, but it caused me some survival issues in the beginning.

Also I only have 39vit(50 with tome). I've tanked all my BHs and I tank in FCC. A seeker IMO doesn't need 100+ vit. Just to throw that out there if you're trying to cram for more points to put into str.

Kewl well i found vit useless after 60. XD But thats me, i am going to back to the strength build although 1 str doesn t seem like a big difference to between my trust blademaster build.

Xd thanks you made me think twice, one thing for sure i am definately not adding vit or very very lit vit like 30.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

wurrs the dex build lol

vristion

377 str, 150 dex with gears atm.. Hit like a truck, and still can tank,

Alsiadorra - Sanctuary

Oh I forgot to mention what I posted was without gear. With it, is 258 / 185

madrith

I happen to be level 49 at the moment, Kind of all over the place. These are my Stat point distributions. If you have any idea how I SHOULD spend my points to become a high hitter please tell me. So far,
Vit: 30
Mag: 5
Str:163
Dex:68

reply and tell me what I should do if I enjoy hitting high

Morghast - Dreamweaver

I was using the tank build, but I restatted yesterday for STR build. I capped my DEX at 160 and from now on will be putting points into STR. You don't really need any more than 160, because with Bladed Fervor, you have 10% crit, so get the rest from gear

Tomoe_ - Sanctuary

been building my seeker since the beginning as a pure str build.. im currently at 454 str and 150 dex.. and loving it.. so far 215k is my highest damage with gemini (on dracoboa in abaddon/ non-zerk damage) with veno, bm, seeker debuffs.. i have yet to test it in tw as im guildless.. xD

SylenThunder - Twilight Temple

Currently I'm using the HA tank build 5, 3, 2. My main question is that, once i cap the VIT, what increases the damage more?

Is the damage output based on STR or DEX? Or is it a balance between the two? With Mages, it's easy, a Pure build is all to MAG, STR for gear, leave the rest alone. For Archers, Pure is focusing fully on DEX. (I think the same also applies for Sin's) with BM's the build kind of depends on the weapons you plan to use and gear req for them.

Has anyone tested the stats fully and figured out what a PURE build would be for a seeker?

Yuniryu - Raging Tide

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

Currently I'm using the HA tank build 5, 3, 2. My main question is that, once i cap the VIT, what increases the damage more?

Is the damage output based on STR or DEX? Or is it a balance between the two? With Mages, it's easy, a Pure build is all to MAG, STR for gear, leave the rest alone. For Archers, Pure is focusing fully on DEX. (I think the same also applies for Sin's) with BM's the build kind of depends on the weapons you plan to use and gear req for them.

Has anyone tested the stats fully and figured out what a PURE build would be for a seeker?

Lol mate I am the wrong to ask I have rest 5 times lol. I give up I am going for the 5str and 5 dex every 2 levels and 30 vit cap. I don't care about builds anymore time to Make my own build my rulesb:surrender

_Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver

I capped my VIT at 60 then went 3 STR 2 DEX and its going pretty well atm. Going to restat down to ~30 VIT or so once I get R8 and shard for enough HP

Knightblayde - Raging Tide

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

Currently I'm using the HA tank build 5, 3, 2. My main question is that, once i cap the VIT, what increases the damage more?

Is the damage output based on STR or DEX? Or is it a balance between the two? With Mages, it's easy, a Pure build is all to MAG, STR for gear, leave the rest alone. For Archers, Pure is focusing fully on DEX. (I think the same also applies for Sin's) with BM's the build kind of depends on the weapons you plan to use and gear req for them.

Has anyone tested the stats fully and figured out what a PURE build would be for a seeker?

Technically, for the most part, damage comes from skill use (especially skills like vortex and gemini slash). STR would benefit only regular attacks or the base damage + add-on attacks like stalagstrike. Following the pattern of "pure" builds, I would define pure as following minimal equipment requirements and enhancing the stat that gives the class its main source of damage. I would say 7 str/3 dex per lvl would be the "pure" build for Seeker. Adding dex is just for minimal requirements or if you aim to get their crit to maybe 10%. Seeker crits are quite nice, though.

I plan to add a better explanation of the builds on my guide to discuss the importance of stat points better.

Alsiadorra - Sanctuary

Knightblayde - Raging Tide wrote: »

. Adding dex is just for minimal requirements or if you aim to get their crit to maybe 10%. Seeker crits are quite nice, though.

I have 14% and yes they are quite nice ^_^. Too bad I can't get the amount I really want.

Oscars_SOUL - Lost City

there is no way 2 knew what stats are seekers best stats i am being oure str butmight go all vit end game if i see my seeker cant take the hist necesery 2 survive gank of sin wish in my point is seekers true strength.
we are very simular 2 barb only that our tanking come from deff lv and not hp so if u look seeker liek that minimum str and dex and pump on vit would we a true tank seeker.
hopefully enogh for the rank9 sins 100 attack lv idk cos my seeker isnt there yet lv77
all i knew str does help kill faster so its a + as for pvp who knews.

Yuniryu - Raging Tide

Well i have gone to capping vit at 30 and then 5str and 5dex and i love it!.

14% criticals i love it . I will enjoy doing this till 90, then i am going do high strength. At last a build i feel comfortable in.b:thanks It feels right. I guess there is no real build its down to the person and comfort and i have found mine.

Knightblayde - Raging Tide

Yep, this class has a lot of freedom for that purpose. The str/dex goes up to minimal requirements for what you want to equip in the upcoming levels and the rest of the points is where creativity happens. b:pleased

After reading many posts related to build design discussions, I feel that I should help explain the process in my guide's build section. I'll cover extra stat point distributions a bit more and add some tips on evaluating your personal needs as someone playing the seeker class.

Wunderkind - Dreamweaver

http://pwcalc.com/808f08f3d8a510a1 soon as I hit 101, *fc's more*

Cemina_Russe - Raging Tide

Oscars_SOUL - Lost City wrote: »

there is no way 2 knew what stats are seekers best stats i am being oure str butmight go all vit end game if i see my seeker cant take the hist necesery 2 survive gank of sin wish in my point is seekers true strength.
we are very simular 2 barb only that our tanking come from deff lv and not hp so if u look seeker liek that minimum str and dex and pump on vit would we a true tank seeker.
hopefully enogh for the rank9 sins 100 attack lv idk cos my seeker isnt there yet lv77
all i knew str does help kill faster so its a + as for pvp who knews.

2 points:

1) At endgame, a seeker can't hold agg.

2) Before endgame, to hold agg, a seeker can't take hits like a barb or BM with marrows.
OR
2a) Before endgame gears, to tank boss's damage, a seeker can't hold agg. [that, or you have to have coin for refines and shards] A vit. seeker can't hold agg off of my lvl 69 fist BM. I only have one piece of -interval, but if they've skimped on their str., one spark and it's all over. AND I'M A VIT BUILD FISTY!

Sum up: Seekers can tank [sorta], but they shouldn't. I view the defense as more of a bonus, "you won't die when your crit pulls agg." [like a wizard would]

Just my 2 dq poitns. b:bye

Alsiadorra - Sanctuary

There are ways to deal damage as a seeker, while going around the whole vit bind that you and quite a few clueless players are banking on.


And I will say it again. Seekers are NOT made out of paper. We aren't "squishy" and for all who has said so, is not equipping it right and is not leveling up adrenal numbness. So people need to stop(the person above me) with the implicating remarks that we're so weaksauce class because we can't go 5.0, and tank on the calibur of barbs. The logic there does not compute because obviously no one can match the tanking capabilities of a barb.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Seeker: What is our meaning in life?

ResMePls - Heavens Tear

Yuniryu - Raging Tide wrote: »

Kewl. b:pleased. Well i about to be a high strength, i finally made up my mind. I want power. !b:victory

Then demon seeker is for you my friendb:victory.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

ResMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Then demon seeker is for you my friendb:victory.

that was a joke right? >.>
sometimes i cant tell if pple are joking or serious here

Julian - Dreamweaver

I have 4 Seekers:

1) 2.5str, 1.5dex, 1vit Vitality build
2) 3.5str, 1.5dex Heavy attack build
3) 2.5str, 2.5dex Heavy Dexterity build
4) 2str, 1.5dex, 1.5vit Light armor build

So yeah, I guess I do have a high-strength one in there somewhere.

Cemina_Russe - Raging Tide

Alsiadorra - Sanctuary wrote: »

There are ways to deal damage as a seeker, while going around the whole vit bind that you and quite a few clueless players are banking on.


And I will say it again. Seekers are NOT made out of paper. We aren't "squishy" and for all who has said so, is not equipping it right and is not leveling up adrenal numbness. So people need to stop(the person above me) with the implicating remarks that we're so weaksauce class because we can't go 5.0, and tank on the calibur of barbs. The logic there does not compute because obviously no one can match the tanking capabilities of a barb.

So, yeah. The person I was responding to had said, "like a barb" [not to be confused with "like a boss" b:chuckle]. From your own post, I do not think you would disagree with me that that was a completely wrong assumption. But, in instances, for me to hold agg off of BM's and sins, I need to use Vortex. To keep it up, I need a charm. [until lvl 75, at which point it is even harder to keep agg off of BM's and Sins] If I am in a situation where I actually can hold agg from a BM without vortex, he probably has more HP than me and should tank anyway. [or he's an idiot]

I know we can take a hunk of damage [I look at numbers and compare them to my BM when it was this lvl] but my point is, in every case where it is practical for us to tank, we shouldn't because there is someone more qualified. In a squad of casters, we should definitely be taking the hits, but in any "normal" squad, the seeker tanking is either expensive, impractical, or just weird. I've seen us do it, and, no denying it, as far as damage tanking it goes pretty well. [except on Wyvern with a mystic. I miss clerics b:surrender] The problem comes with damage dealt without Vortex, and crowd-control getting to the boss. If a squishy catches agg, we have no good way to be sure and get it back. With a BM, just stun it and you have 6 seconds to figure out what to do. With a Seeker, if void-step is on cooldown [from the last time a squishy pulled agg], there is very little you can do, other than hopping that HS freezes.

To my mind, a seeker tanking is almost like a 5.0 wizzie: it is not what the class was designed for and it can cause problems/is impractical.

Sverdet - Heavens Tear

I have done 5str 3dex and 2vit every 2 lvls, capped vit at 50, and switched to 3str and 2dex every lvl. Once my dex meets r8 requirement (either soon or it already has, I'll have to look again), it's all going on str. I can get more hp from shards if needed.