Lvl 90 Gear For Sins

Xinnz - Heavens Tear

okay well im 1 FF away from lvl 90 and ive searched around but i couldnt find any posts about my question so here goes,

what is better, rank VI Legs or TT90 Legs?

In what ive noticed i think the rank legs is more of a DD gear cos it gives off dex, since im a pure dex sin i think this will be good, but, i also notice that tt90 legs give off reduction of 1% from the phys damage taken so i assume it would be good for survivability.

Knowing that sins are squishy i think TT90 is better but i wanna know what others use and their reasons for it so i can get a better view on what i should wear.

hoping for an experienced pro to comment aswell :P ty

Olbaze - Sanctuary

I'd take the R6 leggings just because they are cheaper.

Xinnz - Heavens Tear

how much do they cost from the npc though? oh and i got one for free so costs is covered :P

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

TT90 has a higher base defense and will refines higher, as well as better defensive adds which will be needed for sins at this point since your dmg is already very high so you'll be tanking. For most people its just not worth the money. At level 90 you will want 35k rep for your plate upgrade. For 250k you get a better plate than what most classes are paying around 6 mil for, minimum. For another 250k you can get the thighs, or go for TT thighs for 3-4 mil. Also, TT90 thighs aren't "really" needed since Lunar are better for Nirvanaing anyways. TT Nirvana thighs are just a cheaper version that bind to you and aren't as good but give you your aps.

I would recommend TT90 gold wrists (or preferably DQ60 bracers, since they still have more pdef than TT90 gold). Be prepared to make a pair of TT90 green wrists for your tt99 LA souledge.

TT90 boots. These will also become your souledge for TT99LA.

Pirates helm, or Warsoul if you have the coin.

TT90 HA belt is meh, but okay enough. I can't even remember what I'm using. Chrono Map belt maybe... Demon Slaughter is a very valid option. The reason TT90 HA belt is okay is the pdef will refine nicely, as well as added attack for paint heal. You'll need for TT99 souledge.

TT 90 HAneck also works well, although Sky Demon's is preferred until 99. Of course, cube neck and warsong belt blow anything else out the water but there's its price tag. TT90 neck for TT99 soul edge.

Rings. Band of Heaven's Jail, Perfect Attendance, Rank 6, or even FCC gold ring is okay. Best is Lunar ring at 95 then refine it up for sexy sexy pdef, yum.

Weapon Choice: Hitman Legends are your best option, but out of most peoples price range. Most people will stick with Hook and Thorn. They're very decent for the added -int although I've been meaning to look into actual dmg increase. Even with every piece of interval and demon spark at lvl 90 you can only get 2.86 with H&T, or 2.5 without. That's a14.5% dmg difference by attack rate but H&Ts would be outdamaged by FCC daggers and TT90 daggers, just not sure how much refines you'd need for them to do 14.4% more to cover the aps difference, yet alone the spark time lost. Either way, since 80-100 is so quick nowadays you may not even care about changing daggers before Rank 8 or Nirvana.

Xinnz - Heavens Tear

yeha i have bracers of blood moon, wraithagte robe and other int stuff already and also i have 35k rep so yeah.. i probs wont go hitman legend since its bound so i got a 2+6 perfect sharded H&Ts so thats covered aswell, and i got warsoul helm

so i might aswell get tt90 legs.. but just out of curiosity, money being out of the matter, how much approx does hitman legend cost?

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Rings. Band of Heaven's Jail, Perfect Attendance, Rank 6, or even FCC gold ring is okay. Best is Lunar ring at 95 then refine it up for sexy sexy pdef, yum.

I'd have to disagree on this. Personally I think that Sign of Frost: Chaos is a massive waste of coin unless you're actively PvPing.

There's a billion rings out there with 3% crit, such as Rank 7 ring, Perfect Attendance, Seal of Eternal Solitude.

The Patk on the ring is pathetic at only 97, whereas Rank 7 ring, Rank 8 ring, Band from Heaven's Jail all got better +patk

Outside of PvP, the +50% Accuracy is useless, so the only real advantage of using Sign of Frost: Chaos is that it's got +200 mag def while it refines to Pdef. However, I'd take Seal of Eternal Solitude over them in this case, because Seal also has +dex and +vitality, not to mention higher +patk.

Though personally I'll be using Band from Heaven's Jail and a Rank 8 ring.

Weapon Choice: Hitman Legends are your best option, but out of most peoples price range. Most people will stick with Hook and Thorn. They're very decent for the added -int although I've been meaning to look into actual dmg increase. Even with every piece of interval and demon spark at lvl 90 you can only get 2.86 with H&T, or 2.5 without. That's a14.5% dmg difference by attack rate but H&Ts would be outdamaged by FCC daggers and TT90 daggers, just not sure how much refines you'd need for them to do 14.4% more to cover the aps difference, yet alone the spark time lost. Either way, since 80-100 is so quick nowadays you may not even care about changing daggers before Rank 8 or Nirvana

Hitman Legend is a colossal waste of money. It costs twice that of Rank 8, has worse DPS and it's much harder to get. Oh and you cannot even sell it. The only reason to have Rank 8 nowadays is if you bought it before the first rep sale or if you happen to have one that is highly refined and have a bucketload of -interval.

so i might aswell get tt90 legs.. but just out of curiosity, money being out of the matter, how much approx does hitman legend cost?

Depends on how long you're willing to wait. If you wait for good deals, you might get it for less than 100m. On the other hand, if you'd be able to farm it, you could get it for pretty much free. But that's unlikely since the events where you get the badges are mostly dominated by 5 aps squads.

Xinnz - Heavens Tear

cheers mate thats really helpful :P

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Outside of PvP, the +50% Accuracy is useless, so the only real advantage of using Sign of Frost: Chaos is that it's got +200 mag def while it refines to Pdef. However, I'd take Seal of Eternal Solitude over them in this case, because Seal also has +dex and +vitality, not to mention higher +patk.

Though personally I'll be using Band from Heaven's Jail and a Rank 8 ring.

I agree. Like I said, the main point of Lunar ring for me would be that it refines for pdef (and has mdef adds), which is not worth the 25 mil price tag for most people. Other rings are much much cheaper, have better adds, and are almost as good overall. But I left out Rank 7 and Rank 8 because those are 99 and 100 rings and he asked about equipment in the 90's.

I like Seal of Eternal Solitude for its adds best but it refines for magic defense which magic attacks aren't as much of a problem in pve for my sin.


And I'd say the price tag for Hitmans runs around 120 mil average.

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

I agree. Like I said, the main point of Lunar ring for me would be that it refines for pdef (and has mdef adds), which is not worth the 25 mil price tag for most people. Other rings are much much cheaper, have better adds, and are almost as good overall. But I left out Rank 7 and Rank 8 because those are 99 and 100 rings and he asked about equipment in the 90's.

Excuse me, but Marshal's Badge is lvl 90. The other Rank 7 gear, though, is 99.

And personally I find it strange that you'd recommend level 95 Lunar rings whereas not recommend lvl 100 Rank 8 ring. Especially since 95-99 doesn't take too long. You should be able to do it easily in less than 2 weeks.

I like Seal of Eternal Solitude for its adds best but it refines for magic defense which magic attacks aren't as much of a problem in pve for my sin.

Well, it's not like there are no magic attacks in the game, right? And besides, Seal of Eternal Solitude does yield you a pretty good overall DPS.

Other than a few special cases of ornaments, you mostly only get DPH from your weapon and your rings. So, I'd say that it's rather important to prioritize the DPH on your rings.

And really, Band from Heaven's Jail is G12, so the difference in the amount of pdef you get between that and a Sign of Frost: Chaos is pretty much negligible. Even at +12, you're talking of a difference of 113 pdef per ring. The cost difference just does not warrant that kind of spending unless you PvP. And besides, the 24m you save on not buying a Sign of Frost Chaos would get you like +6 on that ring. And now that's a difference of 249 pdef.

And you really can't even try to compare them on an even footing exactly because of the massive cost difference. Because hell yes it's fair to put the "saved" money towards making the comparison off-balance, because that's what most likely is actually going to happen.