Double glitch weird when I do it

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

When I cc DBB and CH, my CH buff is still there but CH doesn't animate, just DBB. aM i DoInG tHiS wRoNg oR sUmThIn'?

Agatio - Harshlands

If u got both buffs u should be happy, because it's hard trick, even harder if u are doing it standing still.
The best if u can do both w/o any animation, so it's fastest.

Finaler - Raging Tide

it's not that tough to do. [i learned to do it an about a week] but the thing is it's bannable by pwi's rules because it's abuse of a channel cancel glitch that causes the buff to activate but the skill to be interrupted so no mana or chi is used nor is the skill put on cooldown. Ppl that can do it the most efficiently don't even show the animations.

But yeah in general try not to do it cause it's a bannable offense.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Its commonly talked about and recommended to do in the BM and Sin forums and has never really been stated as illegal or not. The fact that the buff happened during the channeling and not the cast was by pwi design and programmed in the game so it can hardly be called illegal.

I remember about a year ago a forum moderator described CCing as being about as much of an exploitation of pwi programming as people using safety lock to prevent item drop during pk because the intended purpose of safety lock was to prevent item theft, not a loop hole in pk where GA's are more "proper" to use. Not only is this not bannable but its recommended to all pkers, really.

Try to give instructions like how to glitch fists into animal form and the mods will stop you (bannable offense) but CCing has been openly talked about forever.


Archsaber - Have demon DBB? It's animation changes to the same animation as cyclone anyways. Whenever I have managed to double cancel I only see one skill animate but get both buffs. Btw, any idea of how much ping you have? Was told it needs to be less than 150 ping for it to work and I very, very rarely have that little. I also have horrible fps but I think thats more a graphics card issue.

ArchSaber - Sanctuary

Even with hell DBB, it looks like 2 CHs.

Dezto - Harshlands

Finaler - Raging Tide wrote: »

it's not that tough to do. [i learned to do it an about a week] but the thing is it's bannable by pwi's rules because it's abuse of a channel cancel glitch that causes the buff to activate but the skill to be interrupted so no mana or chi is used nor is the skill put on cooldown. Ppl that can do it the most efficiently don't even show the animations.

But yeah in general try not to do it cause it's a bannable offense.

Source?

TheDan - Sanctuary

ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »

Even with hell DBB, it looks like 2 CHs.

If you do it fast enough, the animation won't even show up. This isn't normal, but with perfect timing and perfect ping of like under 150, a cancel cast can cancel before the casting even happened... funny right? While running, I can DBB GS without it even showing the canceling of either one. It will show the weapons switching and my character running forward, but no skill being used. Same goes with DBB CH.

Dezto - Harshlands

Am I the only one that finds it near to impossible to glitch if you are already attacking?

It might have something to do with my ping (200+) but I can double glitch almost every time if I'm not already attacking but if I am I either get only DBB or CH.

Mythsoul - Heavens Tear

What you want to do is tap DBB once quickly, then double tap CH even quicker before switching to another weapon.

TheDan - Sanctuary

Dezto - Harshlands wrote: »

Am I the only one that finds it near to impossible to glitch if you are already attacking?

It might have something to do with my ping (200+) but I can double glitch almost every time if I'm not already attacking but if I am I either get only DBB or CH.

DBB CH is kind of worthless in PvP if you're 5.0, demon spark > CH. I would just single DBB triple spark there.

If you were referring to 1v1 PvP, what you want to do is RoP, dps for about 3 seconds, stop attacking and circle around the enemy while DBB CH and switch to axe Drake bash, then continue dps. During the 7.5 second stun... go full out dps, EP/TM whatever. Demon drake bash is about as overpowered as Demon head hunt.

Agatio - Harshlands

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

DBB CH is kind of worthless in PvP if you're 5.0, demon spark > CH. I would just single DBB triple spark there.

Are u talking about PvP or PvE, because third spark in PvP is lame.

DrowsEdge - Heavens Tear

I'm curious how you say you can glitch DBB and CH while running, don't you need to have a target in range to use them?

Agatio - Harshlands

He meant, that it's much easier to double glitch if you are about to reach the enemy to attack it than if you were already attacking it (i wasn't sure how to explain it in english) :P

TheDan - Sanctuary

Agatio - Harshlands wrote: »

Are u talking about PvP or PvE, because third spark in PvP is lame.

Oops, my first paragraph is meant to be about pve, 2nd paragraph is pvp. If you've got sparks and occult ice, I like dbb gs better. No disrupted dps by using drake bash.

Kaste - Sanctuary

I have seen a BM going GS > HF > Demon spark in like 2 seconds.

I tried it as well, but I don't seem to figure out how to time it correctly.

TheDan - Sanctuary

Kaste - Sanctuary wrote: »

I have seen a BM going GS > HF > Demon spark in like 2 seconds.

I tried it as well, but I don't seem to figure out how to time it correctly.

Why would a bm demon spark after gs hf? 3 second casting time makes you lose the gs crit bonus and also 4-5 seconds of hf.

_Perses_ - Lost City

I prefer Dragon Bane -> Demon Spark -> Cloud erupt/2 spark pot -> HF -> enjoy the numbers.

Kaste - Sanctuary

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why would a bm demon spark after gs hf? 3 second casting time makes you lose the gs crit bonus and also 4-5 seconds of hf.

He did demon spark in order to show us that he still had 3 sparks after using 4. We clearly seen the animation and debuffs on the enemy, yet he could triple spark.

TheDan - Sanctuary

Kaste - Sanctuary wrote: »

He did demon spark in order to show us that he still had 3 sparks after using 4. We clearly seen the animation and debuffs on the enemy, yet he could triple spark.

You can't cancel cast it and save sparks with it casting. If the casting goes through, the debuffs will consume spark, if it's cancelled during the casting it will just give the buff effects of crit from glacial spike.

Cancel casting HF does nothing for self buffs, and glacial spike canceling before a demon spark wastes 3-4 seconds of the 5 second crit buff. Pretty pointless to do.