new bh100

Nbfgangsta - Lost City

did any1 else gt lunar for bh100 is this a new bh or mess up by gms ?

cuz no way is any1 gona pay 3mil for a bh100 n get 50 chips or 12subs for a reward ijs

DaKaan - Harshlands

Its the new BH...

This is done cause PWE wants their playerbase to CS as much as possible, and keep cutting off the ways for players to make coins ingame without using RL money...

(R9 medals where also removed from DQ points system cause this gave people a way to farm coins, so it was bad for PWE)

etc, etc, etc..

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver

Nope I have not done it and refuse to do that BH! b:angry b:shutup

buttercupcruella

I got a quest for the runecrafting thing yesterday in... LUNAR solo mode.
Found it funny, because this actually made me go there for the first time. Was fun.b:chuckle

Boots_Elf - Sanctuary

I pick it up cause you have to in order to get others.. Then I trash it. As for Lunar solo mode for the Divine Contract.. Lunar solo is easy.. they are right at the front door...

eyehaveyou

lol it is not new bh, there was only a bug that finally got fixed now it shows it right. the bug said u got to do 3-3 for bh when it actually was lunar bh.

so far lunar is worth it. u get many mats that sell for lot more money. now that u cant get medals so easy, other gears got more value.

i went in lunar payed 500k split and got 4-5 mil in mat sellings

Leolin - Dreamweaver

eyehaveyou wrote: »

lol it is not new bh, there was only a bug that finally got fixed now it shows it right. the bug said u got to do 3-3 for bh when it actually was lunar bh.

so far lunar is worth it. u get many mats that sell for lot more money. now that u cant get medals so easy, other gears got more value.

i went in lunar payed 500k split and got 4-5 mil in mat sellings

but you forget, all the qq'ers don't want to actually play the game and the different instances.

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver

eyehaveyou wrote: »

lol it is not new bh, there was only a bug that finally got fixed now it shows it right. the bug said u got to do 3-3 for bh when it actually was lunar bh.

so far lunar is worth it. u get many mats that sell for lot more money. now that u cant get medals so easy, other gears got more value.

i went in lunar payed 500k split and got 4-5 mil in mat sellings

Are the mats that drop guaranteed to drop with each squad and each run? Or are they random like any other BH instances?b:puzzled

And by mats that dropped, are you speaking about the frags and essences? In that case I be rich by now, I have a whole bank alt with loads of them from regular non-BH lunar runs.

...Interesting to know if that's what you said you made.

However, paying 500k a person (3mil) squad mode, for a BH run where drops aren't guaranteed (not that anything in game is)..and end up with a reward like chips or subs with my not-so-lucky luck...I'll pass lol.

b:surrender Hey GM's: We needs BH for the poor folks like me! b:thanks

eyehaveyou

how comes that wizzies r poor? when medals where in dq system, i made like 1 mil / hour on my wiz killing a few spiders...
cmon making money is so easy in pwi.

anyways i see where that comes from lol qq new stuff i dont like new stuff, qq why shall i do lunar qq i rather buy packs and get lunar stuff that way qq

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver

Leolin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

but you forget, all the qq'ers don't want to actually play the game and the different instances.

Indeed that may be true in some cases. Not speaking for anyone else but myself, I think it's straight up ridiculous that BH100's basically have u paying for your reward, EXP, whatever have you. Warsong already requires 12 mirages to start. Other BH's have no fee but of course we all run em wined (that's a form of comin out the pocket), Delta requires them Orders which is probably the only form of opening a BH100 that doesn't make you break the bank. And now Lunar! b:infuriated

It's kinda like makin us BUY or PAY FOR our reward. Hence the word reward! b:bye

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver

eyehaveyou wrote: »

how comes that wizzies r poor? when medals where in dq system, i made like 1 mil / hour on my wiz killing a few spiders...
cmon making money is so easy in pwi.

anyways i see where that comes from lol qq new stuff i dont like new stuff, qq why shall i do lunar qq i rather buy packs and get lunar stuff that way qq

Hmm...I done did Lunar before it became a BH and have no issue with it as a run. I was speaking on it as a BH100, not a normal run in itself.

You made 1 mil an hour killing spiders? Which spiders? lol

And sorry hate to burst your 'oh I'm so sure of what I speak on" bubble..but I do not open packs....lol go QQ on that. b:cuteb:bye

SammyStyle - Sanctuary

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Indeed that may be true in some cases. Not speaking for anyone else but myself, I think it's straight up ridiculous that BH100's basically have u paying for your reward, EXP, whatever have you. Warsong already requires 12 mirages to start. Other BH's have no fee but of course we all run em wined (that's a form of comin out the pocket), Delta requires them Orders which is probably the only form of opening a BH100 that doesn't make you break the bank. And now Lunar! b:infuriated

It's kinda like makin us BUY or PAY FOR our reward. Hence the word reward! b:bye

Wow Q_Q more please! Funny to see that everything in this game should be easy and free. You apperantly don't like challenges....whats the fun of doing boring repetetive runs day by day???

- You Q_Q about having to pay 2 mirages for warsong
Unless you have epic bad luck the BH boss always drops some items so you actualy make a profit.

-You basicly Q_Q about all the bh's....lol break the bank b:laugh
You basicly don't need to do them. Lunar ridiculous?? So far most of the people i talked to actually made a nice profit : 2 earth essences and a unknown tinder for the bh that i did. For me it was a change in scenery and fun.

If you don't want to pay or have some fun/action go and do World Quest b:bye

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver

You missed the whole point. If I was not clear enough, what I was tryna get across IS why would we have to pay for something called a 'reward'? Doesn't it throw out the whole definition of the term in itself?

Basically saying hey give me 500k, go kill that Boss and I will give you a reward for it...

GTFO with that! Read the point I was tryna get across instead of skimming thru and make comments without fully understanding. Then Again, ASSumptions is the mutha of all f***-ups.

Now sit and let that marinate before running your mouth off on speculations. b:bye

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver

SammyStyle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wow Q_Q more please! Funny to see that everything in this game should be easy and free. You apperantly don't like challenges....whats the fun of doing boring repetetive runs day by day???


If you don't want to pay or have some fun/action go and do World Quest b:bye

Everything in this game easy and free?? For who, you? I am a non cash player who has played over 2 years and just got to level 100 a few months ago. Farming and Questing got me to where I am and nothing was easy and free for me.

What's the fun of doing the boring repetitive runs day by day? Are you kidding me? This is PWI, tell me what is NOT redundant. Because you are in a different cave with different Bosses to kill, that makes it non-repetitive? GTFO.

And you obviously have not read anything at all I stated prior. I have done numerous amounts of lunar runs even before it became a BH, before I even became a level 100, So wtf are you talking about?

Eh, before you decide to comment on something please read it in it's entirety. Now thanks and have a great day. b:cute

Tricannon - Dreamweaver

lol u could do like a friend of mine does. they pay the full 3mil fee then takes all essences+gold mats as compensation...profit right there most the time

SammyStyle - Sanctuary

Tricannon - Dreamweaver wrote: »

lol u could do like a friend of mine does. they pay the full 3mil fee then takes all essences+gold mats as compensation...profit right there most the time

My thoughts exactly

SQUISHKASS - Sanctuary

Don't care much for this bh; just annoying they took out 3-3 b:sad & no warning or explanation for the change o.o I just thought it was April's fools joke they forgot to remove.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

None of it will be profit for all that long if people start actually running the BHs.... market will be flooded with mats and not all that many people making lunar gear (and a lot of those that do, prefer to farm). Ijs.

So far most of who I've talked to came out of it at a loss, as well. So I'm passing for now, unless I need a full run. But Lunar could be a really fun BH and I wish they would implement some sort of key to let us in with no fee for that valley.

DoctorBaal - Dreamweaver

Nev_Darkmore - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Are the mats that drop guaranteed to drop with each squad and each run? Or are they random like any other BH instances?b:puzzled

And by mats that dropped, are you speaking about the frags and essences? In that case I be rich by now, I have a whole bank alt with loads of them from regular non-BH lunar runs.

...Interesting to know if that's what you said you made.

However, paying 500k a person (3mil) squad mode, for a BH run where drops aren't guaranteed (not that anything in game is)..and end up with a reward like chips or subs with my not-so-lucky luck...I'll pass lol.

b:surrender Hey GM's: We needs BH for the poor folks like me! b:thanks

i did a few non BH Lunar runs in the past, 5/5 runs dropped gold / rare mats.
1 Ancient Tinder = worth 9 mil with chips, hasn't sold yet
2 chromatic tinder = worth 9 mil with chips, both sold
1 unknown tinder = worth 3 mil with chips, sold right away to Larkray
1 rare necklace mat from Mystical Jarax, no clue on value - can't be chipped - hasn't sold yet. but it needs 2 other rare items to craft. The necklace isn't half bad at g13 and giving 2 defense levels - but people want the cube neck moreso.

numerous earth essences I've sold for 2 mil+

Lunar can be profitable, but the way I prefer to run them is either:
1 person fronts the 3 mil fee and claims all essences that drop - gold is sell/split everything else random (because it can be obtained in solo mode easily)

or

Each person pays a split of the 3 mil (can be done with less than 6 people even) fragments and crystals are random, everything else is sell/split.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

But Lunar could be a really fun BH and I wish they would implement some sort of key to let us in with no fee for that valley.

or allow it to be done in solo mode

Riverwalker - Sanctuary

Can anyone tell me why there needs to be an entrance fee for lunar at all? I've never understood that. 3 mil? Was somebody smoking crack that day? wth is up with that? The other bh 100s do not require wines. Rebirth (delta) orders are free, I make sure to pick mine up every time I cut throught the cube to get back to Arch from the Adventure Assistant. b:lipcurl

I've done lunar many times for quests and mat runs. No guarantee you will ever see a gold drop land in your inventory. As more people do this bh and the mats become more available they will drop even lower in price, so essentially they will become nothing but wasted inv space. If you ARE going to go in, make sure you have LOTS of inv space for all the common drops you will get in there, you may only get 1 or 2 of each, but there are so many different kinds. b:surrender Maybe PWI's way of making sure you max out your inv and safe to hold all of it.

Yudai - Sanctuary

speaking of bh lunar... what do you have to do to get the correct path for the bh boss. I don't want to go in to find out i killed the wrong tombstone(s) or something.

TheDan - Sanctuary

There's an entrance fee because it was too cheap to go through Lunar with Neo Deity scrolls and mass farm all the gold mats etc.

The "new lunar" squad mode fee is like 1/5th the entire lunar instance. So in essence, you save hours of time to get to the gold mat bosses in 30 mins or less. Those being Chromatic Tinders, Ancient Tinders, and Unknown Tinders.

IMO that is still too easy, and it should be reverted back to the old lunar, but that's just my thoughts. PWI has a thing for making instances too easy, making new frost a joke compared to the old one.

Yudai - Sanctuary wrote: »

speaking of bh lunar... what do you have to do to get the correct path for the bh boss. I don't want to go in to find out i killed the wrong tombstone(s) or something.

You kill both totem poles, the left and right one, then engage the tower boss. From there it will lead you to the BH Hauntery Queen boss, and eventually the Ancient Tinder boss Primal Fear.

Along the way however; you will pass the BM and Cleric wygie. Easy opportunities to make back the 3M entry fee with a few fragment / transparent crystal drops.

Yudai - Sanctuary

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

You kill both totem poles, the left and right one, then engage the tower boss. From there it will lead you to the BH Hauntery Queen boss, and eventually the Ancient Tinder boss Primal Fear.

Along the way however; you will pass the BM and Cleric wygie. Easy opportunities to make back the 3M entry fee with a few fragment / transparent crystal drops.

Wygie? Is that the NPC for the Invitation to Purgatol Quest Item?

TheDan - Sanctuary

Yudai - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wygie? Is that the NPC for the Invitation to Purgatol Quest Item?

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/23451

Invitation of Purgatory Quest reward. Re-usable and you can summon another special boss after each boss assuming you are the correct class.

BM wygie spawns after the Tower boss is killed, so a BM can summon every single Lunar run.

Barb wygie is on the right path, Archer wygie on the left, Cleric wygie when killing both totems (BH path).

Veno and Wizard wygies are only inside Lunar trophy mode (old lunar) unfortunately.

Yudai - Sanctuary

ahh, thanks o:
I'll go try it sometime soon then.

lizzywitch

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/23451

Veno and Wizard wygies are only inside Lunar trophy mode (old lunar) unfortunately.

Trophy Mode is available. The Veno wygie is unique.....

As far as the BH our squad had great success 6 people 2 Earth Essence 2 Fragment Crystals 1 Ancient Tinder 52 frags 42 crystals 5 other essences = 3MIL Each and a necklace mold from the BM wygie "Priceless" (snickers) plus got credit for bh and chance for ecstasy card. All in about an hour Lunar is an easy run. For us it was worth the 500k

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

This is just a fail attempt at a coin drain.


I think they should at least kept the old 3-3 BH and just added lunar to the list of BHs.