Bramble Tornado

A_Cookie - Dreamweaver
A_Cookie - Dreamweaver Posts: 12 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
I have a rather puzzling issue, i recently dueled a level 50 mystic, and they used their knockback skill on me (Bramble Tornado) and i actually knocked me back! why is it that the mystics' knocksback works in PVP when the archer or wizzies knockback doesnt? if you have any kind of information on the subject, please let me know. and please, no mingebags.
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  • Hudini - Harshlands
    Hudini - Harshlands Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    wow they knockbacked a range class. that is skill right there my friends.

    ~this has been a known glitch for a really long time, fortunately the GMs are taking care of more pressing issues like Medals. Thank god they fixed that.
  • Mendy__ - Sanctuary
    Mendy__ - Sanctuary Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    it was just something pwi wanted :/ they said in an interview that the mystic was deliberately supposed to have a knockback skill that works in pvp...

    dont exactly know why- other than they said so xD
    Hudini - Harshlands wrote: »
    wow they knockbacked a range class. that is skill right there my friends.

    ~this has been a known glitch for a really long time, fortunately the GMs are taking care of more pressing issues like Medals. Thank god they fixed that.

    lol
  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    A_Cookie - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I have a rather puzzling issue, i recently dueled a level 50 mystic, and they used their knockback skill on me (Bramble Tornado) and i actually knocked me back! why is it that the mystics' knocksback works in PVP when the archer or wizzies knockback doesnt? if you have any kind of information on the subject, please let me know. and please, no mingebags.

    It not a glitch or a Bug, Bramble Tornado dose work in PvP.

    Why can't can't archers or wizzies get knockback? I don't know, but I think it would be fair for everyone who has a Knockback skill for it to work in PvP. But I think if that happens most likely there will be some type of complaint about Archers and Mages being OP and etc. >_>
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    for the same reason they made psychic bramble work , while veno bramble doesnt, gave sins stealth, and gave seekers a +30 def level buff and the best constant aoe, because they want to advantage new classes so older players re-roll and spend money building another character.
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  • LucifersFury - Heavens Tear
    LucifersFury - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    it ain't a glitch, every new class gets something special now lol
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    i'm sort-of halfway curious now; why were the other classes' knockbacks ever made to not work in pvp, in the first place?
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  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i'm sort-of halfway curious now; why were the other classes' knockbacks ever made to not work in pvp, in the first place?

    because it would be impossible to keep an archer at close range >.>
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    The reason it was made to work because the current devs have no clue what game balance or continuity actually means. They don't actually play the game either.
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  • XMasqueradex - Lost City
    XMasqueradex - Lost City Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Could you imagine if wizards knock back worked in pvp... i mean Will of Phoenix has a very fast cast time and a short cooldown no one would get bloody close to the wizard in a fight lol...

    would just be WoP, Gush, pyro, gush, WoP...repeat till dead
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands wrote: »
    because it would be impossible to keep an archer at close range >.>

    And the logic behind that?

    It MIGHT have made sense back in the old days before genies. But now, it's more or less impossible to stunlock someone with a good genie in PVP. So... 5.0 Archer is a tradeoff? It sucks though, because a fist archer does **** for damage compared to like... Anything else at 5.0.

    I'm not gonna use a Mystic for PVP. That's what my Archer is gonna be for, or my Veno, or my BM, or my Psy, or whatever. I've got so many characters above my mystic, I'm not gonna bother with it until I'm bored on them all.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Hudini - Harshlands wrote: »
    wow they knockbacked a range class. that is skill right there my friends.

    ~this has been a known glitch for a really long time, fortunately the GMs are taking care of more pressing issues like Medals. Thank god they fixed that.

    It's not "just" for the knockback. I'd knock almost any class back as long as they stay in range of my nukes, because it also effectively makes you unable to cast spells for the entire duration of the knockback.. In addition bramble tornado is one of our most damaging regular nukes, as well as having only .5 cast time.
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It achieves the same effect as a wiz's distance shrink. The only difference is it's called a knockback. A wiz can even go any direction they want, mystic (or the target) can only go one direction.
    /quit.

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  • Zarni - Dreamweaver
    Zarni - Dreamweaver Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It achieves the same effect as a wiz's distance shrink. The only difference is it's called a knockback. A wiz can even go any direction they want, mystic (or the target) can only go one direction.

    Yep, wiz gets distance shrink to kite. Archers get alacrity and damage reduction skills. Us psys get psychic will and a irritating array of self buffs to counteract damage (**** kiting, you can't hit me anyway!).

    We'll see how balanced they are in a few months when people learn to play them (and with them).
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »
    It's not "just" for the knockback. I'd knock almost any class back as long as they stay in range of my nukes, because it also effectively makes you unable to cast spells for the entire duration of the knockback.. In addition bramble tornado is one of our most damaging regular nukes, as well as having only .5 cast time.

    Yep. It's basically a three second stun that also puts distance between you and your opponent.

    And perhaps that's why, for some drunkard reason, Soul of Retaliation can reflect the knockback.
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  • Lady_Sam - Lost City
    Lady_Sam - Lost City Posts: 196 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yep. It's basically a three second stun that also puts distance between you and your opponent.

    And perhaps that's why, for some drunkard reason, Soul of Retaliation can reflect the knockback.



    GASP! Can it!? b:shocked ---> *rerolls*

    That sounds ridiculously fun. O.o
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yep. It's basically a three second stun that also puts distance between you and your opponent.

    And perhaps that's why, for some drunkard reason, Soul of Retaliation can reflect the knockback.

    wait.. They knockback THEMSELVES against you?

    Anyway the reason you can't use it in PvP in the first place (originaly), is that it allows you to knockback PvP targets into bosses or groups of mobs, essentially PKing someone by making them get killed by mobs (and thus losing exp)
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »
    Yep. It's basically a three second stun that also puts distance between you and your opponent.

    And perhaps that's why, for some drunkard reason, Soul of Retaliation can reflect the knockback.

    Yup, it was funny to try that on you b:chuckle
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