Npc geared PvP *tournament*

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

im in

ryxx and speedytaco are probably the best people to ref, since they have those jungle ruins belts.

Shifong - Heavens Tear

I'm in.

Might want to disallow genies as well. Some genie skills make it a bit unfair for npc gear, and not everyone has the same genies.

Evanera - Heavens Tear

No, having someone watch HP bars would hinder the maximum effective capabilities of a squad if you take away someone who can call targets/tank targets and what not.

I think anyone can referee this, as I don't think everyone will be fighting at the same time, you could just have random people continuously check people, but that may get a bit hectic.

Though I do agree we should have official referees to watch people, and it would be nice to have people from different factions to avoid any biased calls (just in case), likely people whom others can trust so there's no issues. Any volunteers? Try and ask Ryxx and Taco to see if they would wanna be a ref, or lend someone their belt so they can participate in this as much as possible, and someone who's holding their belt can have an easier time watching. Is the belt even tradeable? *wonders if ryxx and taco trust people enough anyways*

Hmm, I figured genies should be allowed because knowing when to use your genie adds to your overall skill level, but since this is supposed to be skill based where all gears are equal, genies would sort of ruin the point of this. We could have some fights with and without genies and see how it goes. Thanks for bringing that up though, didn't really realize that.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear

Evanera - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's true, Aes. I was watching Adroit v Cheze on LC one day just messing around at west gate. They 1v1ed while Cheze used level 3 daggers at +2 I think. Guess who won?

There's a lot of skills that are based on raw numbers and will hurt with a crappy weapon on, which should make for fun times. I think most classes have at least one of these skills though? Hope it doesn't unbalance too much because of this.

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Added a likely location for the event in OP - Giant rock platform outside of Village of the Brutes (on the way towards guild base quests)

Yea... with all the more or less pure magic casters' barely over 2k stock hp... vs an pure dex archer's 5-6k max p.atk and 30%+ natural critical rate with a NPC bow's max damage of 1k. Wonder how that'll work out.

tiranus

Sounds like fun, I am in

Evanera - Heavens Tear

Haha ok Kiyo that's gonna hurt. That will add to the fun though.

Sorry Tiranus but, who are you? I've never seen you or heard of you. Must be level 100+ to participate. Let me know who you are and I'll add you to the list.

DEATHJOKER - Heavens Tear

sign me in Eva this should be fun

Note what about weapon npc also ????

Evanera - Heavens Tear

All armor, weapon, rings, necklace/belt are from the NPC. I'll browse around today to find out exactly where the highest leveled gear is from and edit the OP.

What about Jones' Blessings? Taking those out might help this archer damage problem. Or should we just keep them in since they benefit everyone equally (kinda).

BLcKLiGhT - Heavens Tear

Ryxx doesn't play anymore btw, you'd have to ask his ingame wife if she would do it
and the Belt is not tradeable
kumoNeko if anyone did not know.

Nubispotze - Heavens Tear

*restats to vit and spam heals*

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

id like jones blessings kept out, since they arent really npc gear, they are more like a sales technique.

idk if genies (for defense) are in or out, but offensive genie skills should be out, debating which ones are offensive in defensive could take years and detract from the simplicity that will make this kind of event successful, so maybe just take genies out altogether, maybe limit apoth to keep out purple apoth. but that shouldnt make too much of a difference. chosing your apoth wisely is part of pk.

those belts are tradable.

buffs should be selfbuffed only, because if both participants start fully buffed, venos will have an obvious advantage.


barbs are gonna be the only ones with any HP, since pretty much everyone has restated their vit. b:surrender

Scrubby - Heavens Tear

vitality ftw

XxXvixonXxX - Heavens Tear

sounds like a good event but unfortunatly i not be able to attendb:cry maybe another time for meb:bye

Evanera - Heavens Tear

Hmm..yea thinking about it now genie skills are gonna be a major pain I think. Like I said earlier we could try fights with and without them. Even skills like earthquake and spark could cause problems (my spark already hits 300+ against people with end game gear) so that could be kinda deadly and unfair.

Saeidon - Heavens Tear

This does sound like a lot of fun despite the imbalances (vit builds ftw?). The only real problem for me is that I dont really want to have to restat points to strength to be able to equip npc gear.

It may be an idea to allow certain craftable ornaments to be worn to make up the strength deficit. Of course there would need to be rules surrounding that... +135hp +135hp +5str oht rings need not apply.

Not sure on genies. A really important element of pvp would dissapear if we left them out, but then the difference between a 50LP and an 85LP genie with full gear can be significant to say the least.

Not sure whether I can actually make it yet, I'll need to work that out closer to the day.

Zaphael - Heavens Tear

Oooh, I'm so gonna be there spamming eyes of observation and looking at player info.

Conavar - Heavens Tear

You might want people fully geared running as Enforcers .. I'm sure given half the chance some people will " Invent " ways to try to interrupt your event.

Evanera - Heavens Tear

I wouldn't be surprised if people tried to interrupt this (I kinda deserve it anyway) but it's a server wide event so hopefully nobody is silly enough to mess around b:victory

/Zaphael ok have everyone stand behind the town/village and ambush everyone on my signal.

I mean..what?!



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Someone brought up to me that some people may not be able to participate due to the fact that they use strength tomes to wear armor, so I'll have to investigate a bit.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

sano or yao for enforcer.

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

idk if genies (for defense) are in or out, but offensive genie skills should be out, debating which ones are offensive in defensive could take years and detract from the simplicity that will make this kind of event successful, so maybe just take genies out altogether,

I am pretty sure most of us agree that archers is going to one shot the majority of npc geared pure mag casters. Now with all the bm/barbs stat to dex which would run a 4k hp bm and 5k-ish hp barb. Even barbs would be a one shot for a (my) 100 dex genie thunderstorm. Without lag... its possible for an archer to time his metal along with genie metal to make it look like one single hit. In that case... even vit barbs could do down in 1 (2) hit.

X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear

Naw my pvp days are over now, but I wouldn't mind watching

Zaphael - Heavens Tear

*Yao stands quietly in the shadows...waiting...*

Eoria - Harshlands

Good luck Evanera. Hopefully both tournaments go well. :P

Evanera - Heavens Tear

Thanks for the idea

Okay, tested damage with someone wearing npc stuff, and with no blessing on I was hitting her for ~1200 damage, that's with no rings on as well. I'm going to not allow jones' blessings because well..that would just make things go too fast. Note that the 1200 damage was on an arcane class. I think archers are just gonna slap people silly -_-

Attack/Defense charms yes/no? Although it is kinda hard to tell if people are using them..it would be up to us hoping people don't use them if we ask them not to :S

Edit: Typo about showing fashion, fixed now.

Evanera - Heavens Tear

Added two new rules.

Edit: Changed the time of the event to 2pm server time. I meant to make it for 5pm my time, which would make most Euro people able to show up (11pmish?) but I forgot about the time difference with me and the server.

April 21st 2pm server time

My bad

Ehmi - Heavens Tear

2pm would take out everyone that has that work/school on west coast.

Shifong - Heavens Tear

attack and defence charms should be allowed. Won't have a big inpact, and it's not like you can use the 13- ones. Same for apoth, everyone has access to them and it's mostly used for defence.

Shifong - Heavens Tear

As for pets, can it be a leveled rare pet? or does it have to be tamed and staying same level?

Evanera - Heavens Tear

Well, how late would people in Europe be able to stay up till? This may be a multiple hour event so I'm not sure how to center this time slot to make everyone happy.

As for pets, I'm not sure. My veno is a noob now and I'm not sure what pets are *in* now. It should be something that's fair and accessible to everyone so that they don't need to spend too much money. I'm thinking something like a level 100~ pet from heaven/hell? Seems fair.

Bale - Heavens Tear

SHOULD SAY NO TO jONES BLESSING AS IT DOESNT COME FROM A npc...BUT SHOULD SAY YES TO SCHOOL TEACHER BLESSING...IT COMES FROM A NPC AND ALSO GIVES A LIL VERSATILITY TO WHAT YOU CAN DO...


rawr sorry work requires me to use caps and im too lazy to retype that...b:shutup