BH 100 Lunar

jeavette#4644

bh Luna is one big rip off.... deffantly one bh il be scrapping im not paying 500k for a luna run...... lol i havent done luna since they put a price tag on it gees arnt the players getting rip enough with out GM putting the hands in our pokets as well bring back a free luna run in squad mode like it was over a year ago and il consider doing a bh run.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

I heard a few rumors that 3-3 BH still gave credit for hauntery queen, so I went with a squad to 3-3 and........ we didn't get credit.


So yea, it's definitely lunar now, which sucks. Before this change all the BHs were doable and worth running. Warsong was quick, easy and gave a decent amount of emblems and a chance for a medal or two. FB and SoT were cheap to wine and gave a chance for molds and books. 3-3 gave a shot at a gold mat, most people ran it anyways and the BH was just a bonus, easy chance to get card boss done, and only took 3 subs. Delta you got the item you need to enter, didn't cost much except maybe 200k in repairs that you would get most back from the coin drops. But lunar? Expensive, no rewards from the instance itself, not worth it.

Escorian - Dreamweaver

solo mode doesnt count for this i can guarantee it both me and my fiance ran it last night solo just incase and nope.

RexNero - Dreamweaver

So bh lunar have replacement tt 3-3 or is additional bh?

RouxLouka - Dreamweaver

RexNero - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So bh lunar have replacement tt 3-3 or is additional bh?

Replacement. All old BH 3-3 got replaced with it.

Larkray - Dreamweaver

What was the main thing that half the server population cried about? That BH 3-3 boss was too hard to kill, that only people with the epic gear could do that one.

So they gave you an easy BH, a MUCH easier BH, in exchange and everyone else complains about it, I ran it last night for the first time. My squad took about an hour to do it, that was the most fun BH I've had in a long while. Considering you cant just face-roll mobs anymore, it requires slight skill to actually complete.

And yes there is a large saturation of TT mats from 3-3, I've npc'd my fair share of them because they sat there for a month (stacks of 50 in AH 50k no sale wth) Now that there is a BH in lunar maybe the Lunar mat market will actually open up?

BH Lunar entrance fee is 500k per person for a squad of six, average essence profit OUT of 2x is about 450k per person, so thats only 50k, even so 500k coin is NOT that hard to get.

I personally will be doing this BH each time I receive it.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

What was the main thing that half the server population cried about? That BH 3-3 boss was too hard to kill, that only people with the epic gear could do that one.

What? Are you high?

That boss is actually pretty easy to kill. Even without "epic gears" you can easily do him with a high HP barb and two clerics with 3 DDs. The stun and seals don't last that long and with a well built genie any barb should be able to tank him long enough for clerics to res anyone that died.

That boss is only "impossible" If you're wearing 8x one star gears.



I've been running full 3-3s the past few days and I can honestly say the only boss that's really a challenge and presents an opportunity for a squad wipe is steelation.

And yes there is a large saturation of TT mats from 3-3, I've npc'd my fair share of them because they sat there for a month (stacks of 50 in AH 50k no sale wth) Now that there is a BH in lunar maybe the Lunar mat market will actually open up?

No durr. That's true for ALL instances in the game. All instance in this game have their share of mats that are completely worthless and are very hard to get rid of. I suppose nirvana is a bit of an exception but even then flawless ambers are hard to get rid of and don't sell for much. That doesn't change the fact that the golds from there still sell high as well as illusion springs and leg greens.

Namari - Dreamweaver

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

What? Are you high?

That boss is actually pretty easy to kill. Even without "epic gears" you can easily do him with a high HP barb and two clerics with 3 DDs. The stun and seals don't last that long and with a well built genie any barb should be able to tank him long enough for clerics to res anyone that died.

That boss is only "impossible" If you're wearing 8x one star gears.



I've been running full 3-3s the past few days and I can honestly say the only boss that's really a challenge and presents an opportunity for a squad wipe is steelation.

You don't even need 2 clerics even in "non epic" squads. In fact, most squads I've done were with 1 cleric and it worked just as well. The only way a 3-3 squad would fail is if there are extremely crappy geared characters in it. Like a 2k hp cleric. b:shocked

Why fix something that wasn't broken? OR why not just bring back the 3-3 in addition to the lunar if everyone loves it so much? For some people, 500k is a huge chunk of coin that will take a while to regain, unless they really luck out and get ecstasy cards AND have the essence drops sell overnight, which, we have said, will take a while to.

Personally, I trashed that **** after the single mode experiment. I won't mind not doing that unless the 3 mil fee is waived.

Larkray - Dreamweaver

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

What? Are you high?

That boss is actually pretty easy to kill. Even without "epic gears" you can easily do him with a high HP barb and two clerics with 3 DDs. The stun and seals don't last that long and with a well built genie any barb should be able to tank him long enough for clerics to res anyone that died.

That boss is only "impossible" If you're wearing 8x one star gears.



I've been running full 3-3s the past few days and I can honestly say the only boss that's really a challenge and presents an opportunity for a squad wipe is steelation.





No durr. That's true for ALL instances in the game. All instance in this game have their share of mats that are completely worthless and are very hard to get rid of. I suppose nirvana is a bit of an exception but even then flawless ambers are hard to get rid of and don't sell for much. That doesn't change the fact that the golds from there still sell high as well as illusion springs and leg greens.

I wasn't saying he was hard, but there was no end to the amount of QQ threads about how difficult he was. Those suggestions/threads were forwarded to China from the looks of things is all I'm saying :P

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

It's mostly the fee to open lunar that I'm not happy about. That, and I kind of loved doing bh3-3. But yeah, if they removed the fee I'd probably be willing to try it.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Most of the threads QQing about that boss were about the 3-1 boss and how hard he was to kill for 8x players with gears that are average for an 8x player.


The 3-3 bosses that are practically impossible if not epic geared (read: if not high APS) are emperor, illusion lord and steelation, and in that case it is true. Bosses like steelation the best strategy by far is to have crazy high DPS and hope he dies before he buffs himself and aoe sleep/stuns. Squad I was with yesterday managed to kill him a few times before he ever buffed himself and a few other times got him to 5-10% before he buffed and aoe slept. With a normal squad though, we would have been wiped easily.

Kitsusha - Sanctuary

Completed bh lunar in squad mode, yes with fee, and it counted as kill... sadly got CHIPS as reward but that's a different story -.-

Lunar isn't too hard BUT the fee is the downside not many can ignore. Least if boss dropped good drops x.x b:surrender

Tigerninja - Heavens Tear

Larkray - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What was the main thing that half the server population cried about? That BH 3-3 boss was too hard to kill, that only people with the epic gear could do that one.

So they gave you an easy BH, a MUCH easier BH, in exchange and everyone else complains about it, I ran it last night for the first time. My squad took about an hour to do it, that was the most fun BH I've had in a long while. Considering you cant just face-roll mobs anymore, it requires slight skill to actually complete.

And yes there is a large saturation of TT mats from 3-3, I've npc'd my fair share of them because they sat there for a month (stacks of 50 in AH 50k no sale wth) Now that there is a BH in lunar maybe the Lunar mat market will actually open up?

BH Lunar entrance fee is 500k per person for a squad of six, average essence profit OUT of 2x is about 450k per person, so thats only 50k, even so 500k coin is NOT that hard to get.

I personally will be doing this BH each time I receive it.

Haha, she's QQ'ing on 3-3 cuz she's a squishy veno b:laughb:pleasedb:chuckle

BH 3-3 wasn't hard at all. I done it with 1 cleric and with people with +3 TT90 gears.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

As far as I can see, no one wants to do Lunar as the BH because of the entrance fee. Or would rather not do it with random people.

And 500k for 50 chips or 8 subs is a ripoff.

Larkray - Dreamweaver

Tigerninja - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Haha, she's QQ'ing on 3-3 cuz she's a squishy veno b:laughb:pleasedb:chuckle

BH 3-3 wasn't hard at all. I done it with 1 cleric and with people with +3 TT90 gears.

i'm far from squishy good sir :P and did you not see my second post saying i never said it was hard?


http://pwcalc.com/e5526c7463ab5e10

b:pleased

MistaBwanden - Sanctuary

Kitsusha - Sanctuary wrote: »

Completed bh lunar in squad mode, yes with fee, and it counted as kill... sadly got CHIPS as reward but that's a different story -.-

Lunar isn't too hard BUT the fee is the downside not many can ignore. Least if boss dropped good drops x.x b:surrender

-Hugs Kits-
Getting me to 103 will make you feel better.
I promise.

Smokesalot - Heavens Tear

aww lunar too much for u complainers?
how about free money and xp lol
bit ches

Knownase - Heavens Tear

The fee is just a gamble, which is why no one wants to do it.

500K, for only a 10% chance at 2 mill reward + potential mats from Lunar?

I mean like....500K, for basically going into an instance, killing a boss, leaving, and gain a reward and BH2.

Getting chips, subs, or orb of culti, you lost the gamble and gain nothing else.

Getting 50 mirages, or 2 Ecstasy Cards, grats, you profited.

Anyways, my perspective on it.

SwanBog - Dreamweaver

This new BH in Lunar sucks! Why?
#1 you have a crazy entry fee!
#2 The Drops Still suck!
#3 between the Drops and The BH reward it still doesn't make up for Entry fee.

Between that and takeing away the possability of people to get Rank 9 stuff, now PWI has made this a game that only those that put a Ton of real Money into the Game have the Equipment that makes them much more superior to those that Can't spend money on a game.
Give a Guarnateed BH reward for Lunar that is the Extacy cards and You'll find alot more people will do thier BH's and be happy. (that is if you can do it without causeing another stupid glitch)

Oh!...I forgot it's PWI...they dont care! Just as long as they have your money!