How to fix weakness?

Nyuchama - Archosaur
Nyuchama - Archosaur Posts: 101 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
I probably have the WORST HP/MP... I am a lvl 30 veno with 1,200+ HP and 1,300+ MP... I wasted a lot of the skill points on strength because at the time me and my friend were trying to see if we could have a strong veno... It failed because my physical attack only deals about 70-100 damage even though I have 70 strength. Then my mana attack is 400+ on monsters my level, and 700-800 on low level monsters. My friend abandoned her "strong" veno (lvl 21) and made a new one (lvl 18 now) and her mana attack does about 2k... I guess it doesn't matter since I have a level 30 pet with me doing 200+ damage, but still... I hate getting posioned by arachnids and DYING.. I am improving on my vitality and magic, my vitality is at 20 something and my mana is about 41. Then my Dexterity is 31... But like I said I am really sick of dying all the time, is there a way I can fix it besides improving vitality every level? (I don't level up much because I die too much)
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Continue your strength build. It will increase your magical damage and defense my end game and your physical attack. Trust me lol in the end you will be able to pwn ur friend with magic+physical attack.
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  • L_y_n_x - Raging Tide
    L_y_n_x - Raging Tide Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It depends what u are doing with ur veno.

    Do you want to wear arcane armor, use high end magic weps, do good damage with spells and good heals on pet ? Barely going into fox form ? If that's the road you seek, u barely need enough str just to support beeing able to wear your weps. You don't really need dex either. Remember a full magic atk char must have strict minimum in other stats and all possible remaining points in magic.

    Or u are going the warrior/fox form way. That case, u will probably wear light armor where dex will be more important as requirement but all ur spells will be weaker.

    Been a year i'm on this server and as % , I would say I saw 1% Heavy armored one, 4% light armor ones and 95% going full arcane/magic build.

    Must be funny to see though..A BM say, that would treathen you thinking he will one-shot your weak physical def but bang..u transform into fox and have phys def rivalising his..b:chuckle
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It depends what u are doing with ur veno.

    Do you want to wear arcane armor, use high end magic weps, do good damage with spells and good heals on pet ? Barely going into fox form ? If that's the road you seek, u barely need enough str just to support beeing able to wear your weps. You don't really need dex either. Remember a full magic atk char must have strict minimum in other stats and all possible remaining points in magic.

    Or u are going the warrior/fox form way. That case, u will probably wear light armor where dex will be more important as requirement but all ur spells will be weaker.

    Been a year i'm on this server and as % , I would say I saw 1% Heavy armored one, 4% light armor ones and 95% going full arcane/magic build.

    Must be funny to see though..A BM say, that would treathen you thinking he will one-shot your weak physical def but bang..u transform into fox and have phys def rivalising his..b:chuckle

    Light Armor is not the way to go.

    Heavy Armor is.

    And I tried to punch a HA veno on my BM in TW... It didn't work so well.
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  • _Aubree__ - Dreamweaver
    _Aubree__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    You may not need any more str cause as you lvl you will need like 55 str for arcane gear. Dex is only valuable in quanities of 20 for crit percent. I would use a reset note and take it out. From my understanding of the venos I know they go vit build arcane. Start pumping in some magic points.
  • Jette - Dreamweaver
    Jette - Dreamweaver Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It's all about what you want to do at end game. Personally, if you're an Arcane class, I say stick with AA. Use just enough STR to hold your junk, the rest in Mag and Vit (Most in Magic). LA/HA venos are nice, but they have lower Mag Attack, due to the lower Mag Stat they'll have compared to AA venos. Honestly, it's all about personal preference.
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Most venos go pure mage/hybrid mage, and once they hit 100, they restat to HA.

    HA venos are pretty sick if done correctly. And then again there really isn't a solid "correct" way to build one :P
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  • Aesthor - Heavens Tear
    Aesthor - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,845 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Being HA is a bit risky. I know some really great HA venos and some really terrible HA venos. It's a hit or miss; there is no "in the middle."
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  • Zairi - Dreamweaver
    Zairi - Dreamweaver Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Hm this might be better placed in the Veno forums :O

    HA Veno here.
    First: I know that sounds weird, you putted points in vit. You have already not enough point those ~15 vit will kind of degrade your build. For hp youd want citrine shards in your armors and at later levels refine for more hp. +2 is just fine. Anyways you will always kind of be low on hp a long while. Leech will make that a not existant problem tho, atleast as long as you arent tanking. If you want to be a sucessfull "strong" veno i fear you gotta get rid of those vit....:/

    Second: Going HA on that low level is a pain you might just want to add mag only from now on and seeing your dex wear LA or AA till 60+. You have to make up for missing stat points with ornaments which have str/dex/mag + stats. Many advice to wait for HA till ~100 and they do have a point there i spend lots of time scanning the AH for more +gear.

    Third: Foxform is very weak at low levels. Also you dont have the sp to level fox and magic skills you have to decide and try to max the important skills. To do decent melee damage that would be as must have melee mastery. But even beeing melee Veno youd want Ironwood and Bramble. The other spells you kind of have to ignore out of great lack in spirit.
    If you try to max both youll suck in both because you can do none good. At 70+ you start to catch up with sp and can max out some of your skills.
    Be sure to melee in foxform only even as strong veno you dont do much in human form. :3

    Last but not least: HA is damn expensive and you cant solo stuff as soon as pure mag can cos of your low magic attack. Yes i wear lv 70 Sakyamunis Light and lv70 TT HA since 72. Ill wear legendary lv 77 HA pants at 78 but to get there i spended **** loads of coin. My Tome alone was 3.5 million. I refined my HA +2 and spammed it with flawless shards that too wasnt exactly cheap. But if i hadnt id be too low on HP.
    Also i have a not exactly cheap AA set always with me to be able to quickly switch for max flexibility.
    If i had spend that coin on lets say on my Wizzy... oh nice she would be so shiny. XD

    HA is not the easy way if you want to level fast and with less of a hassle go AA or LA.

    I for my part just LOVE to be able to amplify damage on every Boss no matter if the got physical AoE or magical one. Most times i can heal the damage out with my Leech so i am no bother for the Cleric. I even can use alpha male to save the cleric from a bunch of physical mobs going after her/him and live.b:victory
  • Jeremied - Sanctuary
    Jeremied - Sanctuary Posts: 2,259 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Light Armor is not the way to go.

    Heavy Armor is.

    And I tried to punch a HA veno on my BM in TW... It didn't work so well.
    ^This, lol. <_< I personally have a full mag veno, but I just use her for grinding atm. The full mag build is much easier to level if you're just starting out, as long as you get a good tank pet. (Magmite/Walker)

    HA venos are usually pretty difficult to build from lvl1, but they're really fun to play later on when done right. Running up to a barb in TW, purging and amping, surviving an Armageddon and running away laughing while your guildmates unleash on him. XD
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  • Avriel - Harshlands
    Avriel - Harshlands Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Pro tip. Re-roll a sin, get 5aps and 8k+ HP. You can solo almost any instance no problem, GG.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ^This, lol. <_< I personally have a full mag veno, but I just use her for grinding atm. The full mag build is much easier to level if you're just starting out, as long as you get a good tank pet. (Magmite/Walker)

    HA venos are usually pretty difficult to build from lvl1, but they're really fun to play later on when done right. Running up to a barb in TW, purging and amping, surviving an Armageddon and running away laughing while your guildmates unleash on him. XD

    You can do all of that, and more! Survive and arma while being barraged. probably won't last long under an R9 bow, or even an R8, but anything else, you should survive long enough to at least debuff the barb. b:chuckle

    Plus, he just took half his own HP away, resulting in a charm tick (oneshot now for a Psy if he's a low HP barb), or cannon fodder for some Archers.
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