At what level...

rayvore
rayvore Posts: 0 Arc User
edited April 2011 in Assassin
Does leveling a Sin start to get less... dangerous? I've heard that Sins begin to level insanely fast, and don't need to focus so much on using pots (due to bloodpaint)

My question is, when does it start to become noticeable?
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Well it depends.

    I'd say the breakpoint is 89, 90 or 92.

    89 because that's when you get your demon/sage culti, which can change a lot.
    90 because that's when you can start doing the OHT daily and get 50,400 Genie Stamina daily, which kinda puts Tree of Protection as the cheapest heal.
    92 because if you went Sage that's when you'll get Sage Bloodpaint, hopefully.

    Personally, I'm 94 with Sage Bloodpaint and I mostly get away with using Tree of Protection once a while. If I actually bothered to watch my cooldowns and healed with Sage Spark whenever possible, that might not even be necessary.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I say it starts around the level 59, when you can get Inner Harmony and double spark. Double spark heals 10% of your max health, along with increasing your DD for 12 seconds, which increases your BP intake by a bit. Combine that along with Tackling Slash, Rising Dragon Strike, and Inner Harmony, and you can begin to perma-spark with double spark.

    It's not THAT noticeable yet, but you can definitely notice a change in survivability at 59+.

    The next best notable time you'd see any change is when you turn 74 and can use the Legendary Daggers with blood defect. I don't know about many sins who use them, but when I did, I loved the proc. I had about 5k hp unbuffed back then, and healing 500 on top of heals/spark every now and then helped a lot.

    Other than that Olbaze said it all.
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  • Empu - Sanctuary
    Empu - Sanctuary Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Imo it goes pretty much like this :
    1-34 = horrible pot eater of any kind, hp and mp
    34-59 = a bit better, but bp kinda sucks at low damage of those lvls (nobody gets some awesome refined weap for those lvls)
    59-89= grinding will be easier, and minibosses with double spark
    89 = you start to be able to solo a lot, and will barely touch a hp pot with tripple spark (same for sage and demon)
    90-99 = better gear available in armor and -int, increases survivability a lot
    99/100+ = endgame gear, which you will refine more usually, and become a monster.
  • Yulk - Raging Tide
    Yulk - Raging Tide Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    99-100
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  • rayvore
    rayvore Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Ah, I see... Probably not the class for me, then. xD Trying to find one that doesn't drive me crazy - I.E. After killing 5 mobs, have no MP left over (**** THE PSY)

    Oh well...
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    In my experience, most Sins are actually alts of players with 100+ awesome sauce mains who can powerlevel them to 90+ and juice them up with great gear.
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  • AqueoLupas - Lost City
    AqueoLupas - Lost City Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    im not... well i have a "used to be main" that was lvl 18 on another sever but not any more so yah im a pure sin not an alt beacuase i love sins on alll games b:pleasedb:victory
  • Laurrixa - Dreamweaver
    Laurrixa - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    My "main" is a sin and would say it's pretty fun to play and level through the lower levels. You will go through pots or powders or charms to play without resting for awhile but it's still fun. Then once you get into your 70's and 80's it's easier for sure.

    I started mine more than a year ago and had to break until recently so my experience was before the power leveling craze of FC runs and hypers. So now you really have two options to go. I think in the end though the effort is well worth the result (at least until the pvp'ers finally get us nerfed lol)
  • /VagPie - Heavens Tear
    /VagPie - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I honestly don't have a major problem with Hp at my current level, and Sins have low low HP starting out. I'd give it some time (59ish is what experienced players are saying). As for myself, I have my Sin make Life powders in bulk, and I can say it helps tons.

    Just be smart and plan your killing well, each mob might need a different approach to your skills. Use Apothecary cures early in your Sin's life, save cash, and get better gears and the Legendary Daggers mentioned above.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    AqueoLupas - Lost City wrote: »
    im not... well i have a "used to be main" that was lvl 18 on another sever but not any more so yah im a pure sin not an alt beacuase i love sins on alll games b:pleasedb:victory

    Neither am I to be honest. This is my main, my first character, my first rogue (in MMOs or single players), and I have no alts above level 31 xD
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  • AqueoLupas - Lost City
    AqueoLupas - Lost City Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    lol i knooow what you mean in almost all games i never got to the middle and almost none at endgame i always move on to a new one (im kinda a nomad that way) but i think i might stick around for PWI
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It's kinda in it's dying stages. I'm not sure how much longer any of us can stick around xD
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  • Sereneai - Dreamweaver
    Sereneai - Dreamweaver Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    to the OP: the first step at being easy is lvl 59, when you get your second spark and inner harmony. before that, bloodpaint helps, but you really don't do enough damage yet for it to keep your HP up.

    after that, the next step is going to be your third spark at 89....at which point you are scary to everything around you. b:chuckle

    there are some in-between steps, but these seem to be the really noticeable ones.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sereneai - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    after that, the next step is going to be your third spark at 89....at which point you are scary to everything around you. b:chuckle
    2.5aps with demon spark at 91 is godly, ijs b:cool
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  • psicho69
    psicho69 Posts: 142
    edited April 2011
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    2.5aps with demon spark at 91 is godly, ijs b:cool

    this b:chuckle
  • AqueoLupas - Lost City
    AqueoLupas - Lost City Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    wait i came to the party when the beer was almost gone b:infuriatedWWWHHHHHYYY!!!!!!!!??????b:cryb:faint
  • Waterscyth - Harshlands
    Waterscyth - Harshlands Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I dont know about yall, but at lvl 59 with 25 vit i didnt die, unless ganked by 3+ mobs, was PKed, forgot BP and fought 2 at once.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    AqueoLupas - Lost City wrote: »
    wait i came to the party when the beer was almost gone b:infuriatedWWWHHHHHYYY!!!!!!!!??????b:cryb:faint
    No, actually you came to the party when they're bring out every bit of beer for half price to keep the party-goers around as long as possible.
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