You really need to slow down on the sales.

Allure - Harshlands
Allure - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
As the title says, this is getting ridiculous.

Obviously PWI is a company, and as a company there has to be profit and a decent amount of income. But as a game, you need both the people who invest real money AND the people who don't. People invest money to be better than the ones who don't, thats true, but the only way they invest more is if the people who don't arent THAT far behind from them either that they will still pose a semi-decent challenge.

Do not take me wrong, I do invest real money in here (not on this account), and I did enjoy some sales and they are great for everyone, but... Not when they are EVERY single damn week, making gold price raise to over 1mil.

This is reaching the point of being ridiculous, and soon it will go same path as PW-MY with gold at 1.8mil and people not affording to play at all.

Less people -> Less fun -> Less money.


You really need to reconsider your marketing strategies and give these huge OP sales a few months or at least weeks rest.

Get some new fashion, make some contests, some in game events, promote things that will bring more people and provide more fun, instead of things that do the opposite.


Just my 2 cents.


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  • Iulius - Heavens Tear
    Iulius - Heavens Tear Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i agree, i was so amaized about the 5 dollar sale for mounts
  • Ankiel - Raging Tide
    Ankiel - Raging Tide Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i see your point, but on the other hand, i do like that there is something new every week to buy
  • Nahktuul - Archosaur
    Nahktuul - Archosaur Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    They will figure it out eventually. When their servers are empty and they wonder where everyone went.

    In the meantime, just enjoy the game.
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  • Energize - Heavens Tear
    Energize - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    It's pretty much why I stopped playing a long time ago...
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The real issue is everyone knows the crazy sales are coming and doesn't waste their gold during the non-sales. Merchants with their billions of coins buy up any gold there is in the meanwhile which keeps the price high even when there is nothing to buy at that moment.

    This makes the only affordable things the stuff that is on sale. Everything else is unbuyable. What they should do is just make any sale permanent and concentrate instead on bringing in new content into the cash shop.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    There was always a permanent 45 gold for 50 pack sale, flying mount and mount price has been permanently reduced as well.
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  • Markyouwho - Heavens Tear
    Markyouwho - Heavens Tear Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I want a rep sale QQ moar!!!b:shutup
  • Markyouwho - Heavens Tear
    Markyouwho - Heavens Tear Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    >.> on a serious note, there has been alot of sales lately, but i think sales are a necessity because if i do recall recently, when there was a period where packs were'nt on sale, tokens raised their prices to almost 20k each which made bhwines expensive, and not to mention yuanxio, hypers and everthing else you could trade in @1kb:surrender
  • CandyCorn - Raging Tide
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    There needs to be fashion sales....we are way behind in that.
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  • Nael - Dreamweaver
    Nael - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    When gold was as low as 100k, there were no packs and tokens. People lived fine without them. This is where PWE grabs the players by the throat, we are put under illusions that we can only have cheap gold or cheap tokens, because PWE knows players have been spoiled so much that tokens seem like necessity.

    You know gold prices will stay high...just wait until next "price hike", following the first pack sales and the first rep sale. Perhaps something that will set a 1.5mil per gold benchmark?
  • HeavensRage - Raging Tide
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You must be new here.
  • CandyCorn - Raging Tide
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    HeavensRage - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You must be new here.

    Hey thats what I say...steal another line b:surrender
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  • Firefeng - Dreamweaver
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Nael - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    When gold was as low as 100k, there were no packs and tokens. People lived fine without them. This is where PWE grabs the players by the throat, we are put under illusions that we can only have cheap gold or cheap tokens, because PWE knows players have been spoiled so much that tokens seem like necessity.

    You know gold prices will stay high...just wait until next "price hike", following the first pack sales and the first rep sale. Perhaps something that will set a 1.5mil per gold benchmark?

    10 gold says that the gold price hike is due more to coin inflation across all the servers than it is due to pack sales (although those obviously have an effect). Unfortunately, PWI hasn't found an adequate coin sink just yet, although I'm sure that was one of the intended functions of faction bases.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The major issue isn't the amount of sales, rather how big they are. It used to be that when there was a sale, the items were 20-25% off on average. On a special holliday or whatever maybe even 33% off.


    Now it's a minimum of 33% off, with 50% and 66% off being very common.
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  • _Aubree__ - Dreamweaver
    _Aubree__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Firefeng - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    10 gold says that the gold price hike is due more to coin inflation across all the servers than it is due to pack sales (although those obviously have an effect). Unfortunately, PWI hasn't found an adequate coin sink just yet, although I'm sure that was one of the intended functions of faction bases.

    Being that there was no good sales for 3 consecutive weeks and gold dropped to 500k-550k, I'd say sales have more of an inpact.
  • Avriel - Harshlands
    Avriel - Harshlands Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    (i only read the first page of posts, sorry if any this has been said already)

    Here's the deal as it seems to me; PWE doesn't want people playing PWI anymore. They would love everyone to switch over to FW and then they can stop updating/fixing PWI. Similar to how a construction company would look at tearing down old buildings to put in a new mall. The downside to this is that some of the players who have been playing for 2,3,4+ years really don't WANT to play FW. So in turn... PWE is forced to "encourage" players to switch games, namely by putting ridiculous sales in until every single scrub on the server is max refined in the best possible gear. On paper, this looks like a great idea, getting everyone into their end-game gear so they get bored and move on.. However, in the process, they ruin the thrill of the chase. And thus you have PWI as it is today.

    Sorry if I don't have it all straight, this is just my viewpoint on what is going on, I promise its not a "personal attack on PWE" or anything crazy lol.


    Personally, I remember back when +4 TT90 was hot stuff, as well as even farther back when making a +3TT60 weapon made you OP. :P
  • Toxie - Dreamweaver
    Toxie - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    _Aubree__ - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Being that there was no good sales for 3 consecutive weeks and gold dropped to 500k-550k, I'd say sales have more of an inpact.

    This exactly. When packs are off sale for some time, gold always drops low.
  • IDecision - Raging Tide
    IDecision - Raging Tide Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I think pwi is just going broke lol. I read some where that they are not bringing in new players but exisiting players are paying more. Or something along those lines. Ive played for alittle over a year now and every week there has been sales without fail. Not much content has been added imo compared to other games. The new city and classes are interesting but ive already leveled a toon to 100. It was a fun awhile, but theres less buggy,balanced, better looking games out there. Time to move on to greener pastures b:surrenderb:bye
  • Summer_Blush - Heavens Tear
    Summer_Blush - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,187 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Now it's a minimum of 33% off, with 50% and 66% off being very common.

    its called... the game is getting old and boring and they are cashing in
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    There was always a permanent 45 gold for 50 pack sale, flying mount and mount price has been permanently reduced as well.

    Qui thats not the sale price that's the normal price. Noone want's to buy for 45 gold when they can hold the gold and wait for the sale when it will be 18 gold. When packs are not on sale you have the merchants with their billions of coins buying up all the gold in preparation of the crazy sales.

    The way things are now the only way to buy something from the boutique at the right price is when it is on sale. Else you have to buy from merchants at a markup.
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  • Rickioo - Archosaur
    Rickioo - Archosaur Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    i see a QQ topic
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  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    They should just put everything at the sale price and just leave it. They would make more money..
  • Wenomus - Dreamweaver
    Wenomus - Dreamweaver Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Pshhht, when first rep sale was, gold went up to 1.8m
  • scarfaceclaw
    scarfaceclaw Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Allure - Harshlands wrote: »
    .

    Get some new fashion, make some contests, some in game events, promote things that will bring more people and provide more fun, instead of things that do the opposite.

    :)

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  • sethh
    sethh Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3APWRD that's why they are doing freaking sales lol
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  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    sethh wrote: »
    http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3APWRD that's why they are doing freaking sales lol
    You mean the part where they started buying back their shares last month, which in stock-broker language roughly translates to, "We're earning so much profit at the moment that we can't think of what to spend it on next, so we're going to spend it on not having to share our profits in the future"?
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  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You mean the part where they started buying back their shares last month, which in stock-broker language roughly translates to, "We're earning so much profit at the moment that we can't think of what to spend it on next, so we're going to spend it on not having to share our profits in the future"?

    In this case, I think it means "we're making enough that we can try to artifically jack up our share prices, and maybe get our Buy rating back! Maybe people won't look at our fundamentals next quarter!" b:bye
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  • Faisk - Heavens Tear
    Faisk - Heavens Tear Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    i want events b:cry not those wraiths eventtttt, a cooler one, c'mon T_T
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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Perfect World Shares Down 21.0% Since SmarTrend Said Sell (PWRD)
    Posted on 04/01/11 at 6:32am by Chip Brian

    SmarTrend identified a Downtrend for Perfect World (NASDAQ: PWRD) on November 16, 2010 at $26.82. In approximately 5 months, Perfect World has returned 21% as of today's recent price of $21.18.

    In the past 52 weeks, shares of Perfect World have traded between a low of $19.70 and a high of $39.17 and are now at $21.18, which is 8% above that low price.

    Perfect World is currently below its 50-day moving average of $21.92 and below its 200-day moving average of $24.47. Look for these moving averages to decline to confirm the company's downward momentum.

    Source

    Oh my... I wonder if I should invest in this company... No wait I am investing in this company.
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  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide wrote: »
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    Oh my... I wonder if I should invest in this company... No wait I am investing in this company.
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    And that's the reasoning behind the buy-back, I think, as I stated above... b:shutup
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