Skill vs Cash shopping.

Dextorian - Lost City

Sun_Burn - Lost City wrote: »

its not just clerics and wizzies that think sins are op, every class, including barbs and other sins say they are op, get over yourself. If you wanna boast about skill try playing a real class that isn't set on easy mode. The fact that sins can drop a well geared charmed barb in seconds is beyond bs. The only way to counter a skilled sin is to be a sin yourself.

Your just jealous cause' you don't got no sin buddies to help you learn how to kill them. QQ.
It is hard, but it's not impossible. If it was impossible, then everyone would be a sin.

Dextorian - Lost City

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

"if they didn't have what makes them OP, they wouldn't be OP"


lol.

Thank you for reading only one part of my explination. Read the rest about everyone being op and take a minute to think. It's okay kitteh. I know it's hard to think with all that muscle making your brain small

Sun_Burn - Lost City

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

Your just jealous cause' you don't got no sin buddies to help you learn how to kill them. QQ.
It is hard, but it's not impossible. If it was impossible, then everyone would be a sin.

ive killed many sins equally geared to myself with the help of expel or badge of courage, which is prolly average gear, maybe less.

But get ANY class, put the highest endgame armour with +10 refines and have them fight a sin with the same endgame +10 gear. The sin will win almost everytime, in duels it would be close to 100%.

Adroit - Lost City

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

I lul at how it's all the wizzies and clerics that think their op and are fighting hard to prove their op.

In all honesty, every character is op in their own different way with their set-backs. You kill a sins' stun locks, they are nothing. You kill a wizs' super tele away spell and one shot kill moves, they are nothing. You kill a clerics' tempest and sleep, they are nothing. You kill a barbs' Health and Armor, they are nothing. You kill a BM's heavy armor and AOE stun, they are nothing. EVERY CLASS IS OP. Sins are just the most loud about what they are OP about.

And Adriot, gtfo. Your absolutely making a fool of yourself in this forum with nothing but repetition.

Ok lets kill what a sin has. Best dps in game (and very good dph), best control skills in the game, best anti-control skills in the game, best chi building in the game, anti death skill, not one.. but two teleports, and top it all off with stealth. Ya that totally balances with all the other classes.

Being that how good you are in this game is in large part dependent on how well you understand it, I think I can safely say.. you are garbage at this game. kthxbai

Okeano - Harshlands

Stop bragging about your duel and go learn a real class b:bye.

Dextorian - Lost City

-.- ffs I'm not arguying with you guys anymore. I'm ****** tired and waiting for this marriage to go by. QQ moar and make a seeker to make you feel better about yourselves for all I care. The only thing I was proving here all along that Skill beats CS any day and I proved it. With all those skills and such, sure. Whatever. It gets out of the main subject matter just so you can troll. Congrats. Have a cookie.

Sun_Burn - Lost City

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

-.- ffs I'm not arguying with you guys anymore. I'm ****** tired and waiting for this marriage to go by. QQ moar and make a seeker to make you feel better about yourselves for all I care. The only thing I was proving here all along that Skill beats CS any day and I proved it. With all those skills and such, sure. Whatever. It gets out of the main subject matter just so you can troll. Congrats. Have a cookie.

if you want to prove that skill beats CS go duel a cash shopped version of your class, this thread is meaningless.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Jeez and I thought it was only PvE servers that thought duels were srs bzness.

OP: WE DUEL, NO GENIE, NO APOTH, FINAL DESTINATION

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

Skilled sin good end gear > CS & any other skilled class

Okeano - Harshlands

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

The only thing I was proving here all along that Skill beats CS any day and I proved it.

Except you used a class that takes no skills to play. Ironic.

And what does Seeker have to do with anything? You are not still believing that Seeker is the anti-Sin are you?

Jesya - Lost City

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

I'd like to add.. If you've played a sin.. You can say something. If not, play the class before saying something. Your a cleric/wiz. Sins are ment to be your hell. But with a well timed Absolute Domain and sleep, clerics can EASILY kick my a ss. So I don't know what your issue is.

Everyone has a sin on this server. And yet everyone (including people who have sins as mains) but you say they are OP and unblanaced.



b:bye

Dextorian - Lost City

Can you please have a little common sense to read. all I'm saying from this is skill vs cs, skill wins. Easy. That's all. I proved it. Sins might be OP. Sure. Whatever. I'll say that so you guys can stop b itching about it. But in all honesty, go to the chapel foyer right now. I'm afk there cause' I'm takin' a nap right now. I have **** gears. And I killed a r9 nirvana Archer. Regardless of sins being op you guys have to admit that took a lot of actual knowing what to do, acute timing and knowing when to hit my skills to keep this guy from even being able to touch me. So go on raging and crying about sins being OP, I'll be laughing my *** off when I kill your *** in-game and watch you QQ even more. Done. Over with.

Sun_Burn - Lost City

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

you guys have to admit that took a lot of actual knowing what to do, acute timing and knowing when to hit my skills to keep this guy from even being able to touch me.

if u were a bm sure, doesnt take any skill to 2 spark when someone cant see u in stealth, stun and DD while they are unable to retaliate. Try in real pvp where charms play a factor. If you had any skill at all you would play a real class, but no, you went with the 1 class in the entire game that requires almost no skill at all and brag about when you win DUELS lawl.

Lalius - Lost City

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Ok. Sin is OP.

You beat a R9 in duel, where kiting for charm tick and apoc doesn't come into play, grats. You know the basics, that's it. Beat a R9 +12 with a real class in world PK then come back.

Why do people always have to be faster than me. b:surrender

Here is what you don't wanna hear from another one of those pesky endgame sins: Sins are horribly, ridiculously op. OP enough that they killed PVP entirely. After watching good sins fight and fighting myself I got bored rly rly fast of this easy mode class in PvP.

Two days ago I was fighting a friend of mine who is a R9 psy (all but wep). It was the first time since ages I actually had fun pvping on my sin. It was more fun losing to him after a 5 minutes battle than owning some other class in 5 seconds. I actually had to use tactics and to think about how I fight him, when to use skills, when to retreat. That's not because he is the only skilled player I ever fought - he is skilled, no doubt - but because psys are the only class that can counter sins effectively endgame. So yea, gratz on winning a duel with a broken class!

Risingson - Lost City

Lol, duels.

Also obviously Diesel took you super seriously.

MageFizban - Lost City

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmCx7VA8qGA

Sun_Burn - Lost City

('')_-)

EithneEtain - Dreamweaver

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

1. To boast, of course. Who doesn't like boasting?

2. To pretty much show proof that if you know how to play your class, you can kill almost anyone. It just takes a lot of learning and studying of other classes and how they would react to your skills.

I don't know anything about Sins and duels but it has been my experience that the one that needs to blow his own horn is usually the one with the least to boast about. Just sayin'

xposed1

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

It's pure repetitiveness. I have nothing else to say honestly. They have nothing to base their trolling on, so there is no valid troll. Just random bull**** to make them feel like their intelligent.

they're b:chuckle

Trelmanor - Lost City

Duels actually are a very poor way to demonstrate whether a player has skill or not, because most people in a duel will limit thier skills or use none at all because they will run out of mana too soon.

If you want to judge skill go do it in open pvp, then you will be able to see the players that have more skill than others.

But I will also say this... Sins and psychics so far are absolutely the hardest classes at end game to pvp against.

Most sins can kill thier target w/o them being able to do anything about it due to stuns, headhunt and stealth... in most cases you are dead before you see it coming.

Psychics have a wide range of buffs designed to allow then to survive melee attacks long enough to take down thier target with an extremely powerful array of magic attacks.

Not saying that you can't beat either one in pvp ... but if gear is similar the fish classes have a decided advantage in pvp.

Why do you think there are soooo many of the fishy people on the server now?... cause those that rolled them have found that they are so much easier to kill with then the older characters and they can get by in pvp with less gear and skill then they had to before in order to be competetive.

MageFizban - Lost City

Trelmanor - Lost City wrote: »

Why do you think there are soooo many of the fishy people on the server now?... cause those that rolled them have found that they are so much easier to kill with then the older characters and they can get by in pvp with less gear and skill then they had to before in order to be competetive.

Lol? Because when you play a psy, people just fall dead at your feet when you walk out of safezone.

Fish? Really? How many 100+ psys do you know?

Risingson - Lost City

Well he's got a point, the server is riddled with Sins, so much so that people forget about Psychics. Eventhough we said it before, we aren't many.

edit : DUDE WE GOT ARCHO!

Biggyluv - Lost City

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

Your just jealous cause' you don't got no sin buddies to help you learn how to kill them. QQ.
It is hard, but it's not impossible. If it was impossible, then everyone would be a sin.

Almost everyone did make a sin idiot. Hence the "mysterious" disapperance of so many old school mains. You sir are a world class idiot. I applaud your typing skills that say nothing.

Ketania - Heavens Tear

This thread got to 6 pages?

You guys should have just stopped responding after he said sins aren't op.

_Spot_ - Lost City

He won cause he is a sin period.....

hes a tard.... ill duel you see if your skill can beat my csed lvl and wepb:laugh

Adroit demon headhunt dont last 8 sec (i have it) i think you were refering to tackling slash(freezes the target but wont stun him).

Adroit - Lost City

_Spot_ - Lost City wrote: »

He won cause he is a sin period.....

hes a tard.... ill duel you see if your skill can beat my csed lvl and wepb:laugh

Adroit demon headhunt dont last 8 sec (i have it) i think you were refering to tackling slash(freezes the target but wont stun him).

demon headhunt does last 8 seconds. The skill description is wrong. It's easy enough to time with a stopwatch.. or you could find a friend and use holy path/occult or something that lasts 6 seconds at the same time as you headhunt and notice they are still stunned after occult/holy path wear off. Obviously using other genie skills then has a chance at them having the wrong description, but the stop watch doesn't lie Level 10 headhunt lasts 7 seconds, as well as sage. Level 10 tele stun lasts 6 seconds, demon is 7, and strangely enough.. sage is 5 (lol losing a second for learning the lvl 11 version). Please don't try to correct me using skill descriptions, pwi skill descriptions are notoriously bad/incorrect.

Lingzi - Lost City

Diesel, u r making us VengefuIs look bad >.>
n lol, diesel dont even know that the farther u r from your target, the harder u hit. so tard xD

_Spot_ - Lost City

Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »

Diesel, u r making us VengefuIs look bad >.>
n lol, diesel dont even know that the farther u r from your target, the harder u hit. so tard xD

The damage is reduce to 50% when you are close while being an archer(phisical dmg)

Metal skill its full dmg close or far and on the pic we can see he was casting a metal skill...

Anyway our class more broken than a road kill cow, its so easy to kill its not funny...

TheDan - Sanctuary

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

that's why you get that chance of the absolute domain to stun them back and **** them. It's general elementary PKing rule #1.. Keep your enemy from having a chance to do anything. This is still going apart from the subject of this specific duel. I did use stealth to start the duel, but did not use shadow escape. Thus, showing that he has no skill. Just r9 and nirvana gear to think he's pro.

Spoken like a true carebear. You know you're bad when this is coming from a PvE server. b:bye

Using stealth in duel? Genies and apoth in duel too? That's like a barb using invoke or veno using bramble hood in an uncharmed fight. Duels should be made for getting chi only, that's it. Go get yourself real PvP in the world map. As far as I'm concerned, sins that rely on stealth to win in any sort of PvP situation don't know how to play their class.

Gilforin - Lost City

Dextorian - Lost City wrote: »

Can you please have a little common sense to read. all I'm saying from this is skill vs cs, skill wins. Easy. That's all. I proved it. Sins might be OP. Sure. Whatever. I'll say that so you guys can stop b itching about it. But in all honesty, go to the chapel foyer right now. I'm afk there cause' I'm takin' a nap right now. I have **** gears. And I killed a r9 nirvana Archer. Regardless of sins being op you guys have to admit that took a lot of actual knowing what to do, acute timing and knowing when to hit my skills to keep this guy from even being able to touch me. So go on raging and crying about sins being OP, I'll be laughing my *** off when I kill your *** in-game and watch you QQ even more. Done. Over with.

You keep saying that you have skills. Where are those skills you talk about?
I just dont understand how this all adds up? b:byeb:bye