dueling

Ignathas - Sanctuary

need advice: how to protect self during duels against seals, if genie AD and apothecary is considered ' cheating' ? >,.,< seal = casted faster then wings of grace, faster then any archer skill.. so seal + kill all the time or O,.,o
also if im sealed if i use absolute domain or sutra i break out of seal or no?
sry being busy and having no friends actually have no time to check but wonder how exactly seal works and seal killed me multiple times in duels >.>
also if sealed = cant cast wings of grace, but if used wings of grace = seal has no effect or?

grimreaperhc

I`m not quite sure if Wings of Grace works againts seal. But as you know Wings of Grace resist all the damage taken during the casting time so I think that if you cast it around 1 or 1.5 seconds before the start of the duel you have big chances or resisting the seal.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

You can't protect yourself against seal.
The only way to do it is by being fully invincible at the moment of the seal hitting you.

A seal does not count as anit movement debuf, and thus anti stun skils (actually, anti movement debuf skills) don't protect against it.

The only way to block a seal is with a genie skill (can't remember the name), which almost noone has (cause it ONLY blocks seal).
There is also a genie skill that has a chance to remove seal, like the genie skill with a chance to remove stun. That's called Lawbreaker, and again not many people have it

Fleuri - Sanctuary

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You can't protect yourself against seal.

I thought Will Surge and/or Faith would protect you from seal?

Faith looks like an awesome skill, but it's short duration and its affinities are so limiting (Faith lasts 5 seconds, while Absolute Domain gives you 4 seconds of damage immunity and another 2 seconds of movement debuff immunity, and absolute domain's affinities can be easier to live with, and typically needs lower energy than Faith -- I think Faith's advantage over absolute domain is its cooldown. But if you already have a wood+fire strength genie Faith might be cheaper for you (like maybe if you are a blademaster with Balance and Reflective Aura on your genie).

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The only way to do it is by being fully invincible at the moment of the seal hitting you.

Or, if you are already sealed (like with expel) that might also work?

Ignathas - Sanctuary

and if you are sealed and you cast sutra or absolute domain you break out of seal state? i think that you brake out of stun state that way but idk about seal, and not sure.. yea seal is most annoying thing to counter >,.,<

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

Ignathas - Sanctuary wrote: »

and if you are sealed and you cast sutra or absolute domain you break out of seal state? i think that you brake out of stun state that way but idk about seal, and not sure.. yea seal is most annoying thing to counter >,.,<

No
The ONLY way to break seal is by being purifyd (you can use apo to do that) or with the genie skill Lawbreaker
EDIT: You can't cast a skill while seald in the first place, and I'm pritty sure AD doesn't break stun. Badge does though

And yes Fleuri, I realize the genie skills.
I refered to them in the last part of my post, with the note that almost noone uses them (which is why I don't really concider them important)

Quilue - Sanctuary

Archers are probably the worst class in duels. If a wizard has full chi, decent gear, and genie skills were not allowed, there is almost no way that you can win.

IMO there are 2 options. Either you can Alacrity away and try to hit the wiz from out of range, or you can start the duel in the air and use drop kiting to your advantage. Trying to block with Wings of Grace's invulnerability duration is kind of pointless because Seal casts faster. Blocking with spark might work, but then the Wiz shrinks in and you get slept.

Sometime throughout the duration of the duel, get Winged Shell up; if you get caught in sleep with Winged Shell on, you're relatively safe.

TheDan - Sanctuary

Will surge makes you immune to silence, whereas lawbreaker removes silence. AD or IG protects from being attacked, purged, sealed, everything. But doesn't break stun. Badge will break stun.

Lawbreaker is usually the better choice because it's a STR based skill and doesn't use that much affinity.

And ... I don't know about you, but there's kind of like an un-said rule about using genies in duels, but yeah. Open map PvP is better to test skills on since they simulate more realistic PvP situations.

Sereneai - Dreamweaver

3spark? since popping spark gives you 3 seconds of "invincibility," would that not also resist being sealed?


It would require good timing on your part though.


ETA: if you ever PVP, I would rather a genie skill to REMOVE silence (ie. Lawbreaker) than to PREVENT it. XD can't always have the defense up.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary

This is why I'm always late to TW... I get in, and immediately buy Antidote pots. b:chuckle

I use them sparingly, as they're like a grand a pop, but... They're worth it! I still can't figure out how to make them outside of buying them from the officer inside of the TW instance.

They reduce poison, or remove it (for the expensiver ones), as opposed to preventing it.

Ignathas - Sanctuary

ty all for knowledge now i hate seals even more