Barbs becoming obsolete?

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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Seeker doesn't have any aggro skills and can't have high aps but they're definitely gonna hold aggro from barbs.





    In unrelated news claw barb>BM endgame for PvE


    http://pwcalc.com/177d3ae9cd37fc64 b:dirty


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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I don't have any of it yet since I can't play until tomorrow when I get my laptop fixed.
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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No that is not my build lmao, at least, not yet, but we look forward to seeing it..

    The point is that a endgame barb beats an endgame BM because of those gears...........


    Fixed.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    In terms of pure HP and defense, claw barb is the most durable 5.0 class in the game.

    http://pwcalc.com/97408ebd46f5f33f


    Glitched in tiger form has 17k pdef without bell, 22.5k hp, 55 DEF levels.
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  • Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,541 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    In my squads no class will be put above another... In my squads any class is fine as long as it get's the job done... Basicly 1 healer, 1 tanker & 4 DD's should get the job done... Depends on how well ppl can play their class... b:victory
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    In my squads no class will be put above another... In my squads any class is fine as long as it get's the job done... Basicly 1 healer, 1 tanker & 4 DD's should get the job done... Depends on how well ppl can play their class... b:victory

    At 100+, you essentially get up to 5 tanks in 1 squad...if they're all melee/physical based classes.
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    In terms of pure HP and defense, claw barb is the most durable 5.0 class in the game.

    http://pwcalc.com/97408ebd46f5f33f


    Glitched in tiger form has 17k pdef without bell, 22.5k hp, 55 DEF levels.

    for aoe yes, for single target 150% phys def boost with marrow + EQ for spells makes bm's more dureable

    demon poison fang < level 10 fist mastery add on dragons bane, demon sutra, GS+DBB cancle casts and the bm will easily out DD the barb even with the 18% DPS boost from demon BO cancle cast
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  • Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,541 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    At 100+, you essentially get up to 5 tanks in 1 squad...if they're all melee/physical based classes.

    4 tanks... I have no intention of taking agro... b:chuckle And yeah with all the aps **** and such these days it's almost like playing ping-pong... Feel sorry for the clerics... b:lipcurl
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  • Xarathox - Dreamweaver
    Xarathox - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,657 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    4 tanks... I have no intention of taking agro... b:chuckle And yeah with all the aps **** and such these days it's almost like playing ping-pong... Feel sorry for the clerics... b:lipcurl

    If there's a sin in squad, all the cleric has to do is either BB or squad heal. Pretty simple really. BH 3-3 being an exception though.
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  • Slarti - Dreamweaver
    Slarti - Dreamweaver Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    4 tanks... I have no intention of taking agro... b:chuckle And yeah with all the aps **** and such these days it's almost like playing ping-pong... Feel sorry for the clerics... b:lipcurl

    It's not that hard, really. Except for nirvana almost all bosses at 100+ are done using blue bubble or chromatic (squad heals) only anyway. We are mostly buffer/debuffer/revivers who occasionally save someone a charm tick or hp pot, then for about 20-30 seconds we do our old job on bosses.
    I, for one, am glad. Spamming IH on the "tank" gets boring after 2 years.

    On topic: barbs are less useful, maybe, not obsolete. Axe barbs may get ignored for the money runs (which is really the source of the complaints) but they become really popular for BH delta (and warsong/3-3 for the non-aps squads).

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