Mystics at Endgame?

phatlewt1

Okay, so I really enjoy the mystic, except for the horrible expense of mana pots. I'm considering taking it to endgame, but then I can't help but wonder, where would it fit in?

We can't use bows in FC, making heads a pain and we can't replace a cleric. Post FC, its all about aps, which, as a magic class, we don't have. We're a great backup healer and have some nice skills, but is a Nirvana group really going to take a mystic over another high aps sin or bm? I suppose a really high aps group with bp on might survive with just a mystic healer, but not sure on that.

Its still early days, and we don't have all our skills yet, but anyone else thought about where we might fit in at 100+?

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

I'm wondering the same. One of the things that makes venos valuable endgame is their debuffs, which mystics lack. In certain instances we can heal as well as a cleric, but all around we're not equal.
I think we'd be decent in FC though, with our plants/aoes. Heads aren't really an issue since NV goes off so fast with such a low cooldown, and I would think a nicely placed plant would also be helpful. I think in some Nirvana squads we could easily replace clerics. As for everything else... well, people aren't too picky really. The only thing that might be hard for us is RB because there would be so many other people competing for just one spot. lol

TuIip - Raging Tide

We can't use bows in FC, making heads a pain and we can't replace a cleric.

Try using ur ranged pet the one with the whip...i'm too lazy to log in and get the name. Give pet chi/mp leash it so that it follows commands enable its aoe spell by right clicking skill. When heads pop tab and send pet to attack then tab again for another head target for urself to cast on...you'll be pro at heads then.

One of the things that makes venos valuable endgame is their debuffs, which mystics lack.

If i'm not mistaken this is a debuff...

Mystic: lvl 60 Spirit: 64000 Coins: 85000
Befuddling Creeper Level 10
Range 26.5 meters
Mana 438.0
Channel 1.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 6.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic instrument

Requisite Cultivation Spiritual Adept
Summon a Befuddling Creeper near the target. Befuddling Creeper may reduce
the Attack Rate and Casting speed of nearby enemies by 40% and reduce
their Physical and Magic Defenses by 20%. Lasts for 6 seconds.
The Lysing of Befuddling Creeper deals moderate damage, and has a great
chance to reduce a target's Attack Rate and Physical and Magic Defense.
Lasts for 18 seconds. Befuddling Creeper appears for 1 Minute.


and also...


Mystic: lvl 66 Spirit: 128000 Coins: 168000
Spidervine Level 10
Range 26.5 meters
Mana 482.0
Channel 1.0 seconds
Cast 1.0 seconds
Cooldown 12.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic instrument

Requisite Cultivation Aware of Principle
Summons a Spidervine, which may Distract, Slow, and
Stupify nearby enemies by 40% and
Weaken them by 20% for 6 seconds.
The Lysing of Spidervine deals moderate damage, and
has a high chance to Distract, Slow, Stupify, and Weaken
enemies for 12 Seconds.
Spidervine appears for 1 minutes.
Requires 30 Chi.

Vixter - Harshlands

FC accepts every class. i mean, look at archers. they only have 2 AOEs (that i know of lol), and one of them is meh. their buffs for the party are ok, but able to life without. sure theyre experts at hands and heads but anyone can do that. but, theyre welcome to the party because theyre good DDs on bosses.

I think Mystics will be accepted into FCs easily. They can really help the puller not die so much with their over time heal that activates -when they get hit- unlike clerics overtime which will probably run out by the time that happens. not only that, but lvl 10 salvation can help in many situations there also. We have 2 AOEs, 3 if you count lysing punishing sting, 4 if u count cragglord. we cant purge an enemy but we can cast debuffs on enemies to make them die a little quicker. our attack isnt weak, comparable to a veno so DDing isnt a problem either.

as for heads... i wonder if punishing sting will attack them?

phatlewt1

Oh, I think we'll get into FC okay - people will take anyone just to fill a squad. Its the later instances like Nirvana that I'm worried about. Its all about aps there and are our plant debuffs and backup heals really going to be enough to get us squads? I don't think our damage will compare to a 4 or 5 aps sin or bm.

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

TuIip - Raging Tide wrote: »

If i'm not mistaken this is a debuff...

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Yeah, but other classes have the same debuffs that last longer and have a higher percentage. We also don't have an amp like venos do. We can debuff, sure, but it would be stupid to do so if it overwrites better debuffs from another class.

TuIip - Raging Tide

Has it been determined if it does over write them yet?

RedsRose - Lost City

TuIip - Raging Tide wrote: »

Has it been determined if it does over write them yet?

^ Not that I have seen on mine.

The debuffs that Mystics have are invaluable to any instance. Additionally, Mystics have Resurrect...

So, debuffs, summon (pet) for dd, resurrect, healing herb, vital herb, "back-up" heals, etc etc etc...I think Mystics will do just fine. Sad to say, I think they might do better for instance parties then Psy's b:surrender

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

I assumed it would overwrite them because the icons are the same, but I can't remember if I've used them while another class (that knew to debuff) was around. If it stacks then they're decent. Awesome for any instance that requires some AOEing, regardless of whether or not they overwrite.

Audrian - Archosaur

People have to try to understand the fact that at any one job, mystics may seem unfit to it compared to other classes. though the mystic is so versatile, it does every job. Yes you would get stuff done quicker with another dd but a mystic gives the party a little bit of everything (not to mention an amazing buff that will save parties countless wipes). all this, while we haven't even acquired our high level skills. I'm sure most parties would be glad to have a mystic in it.. b:laugh

Yui_ - Harshlands

Audrian - Archosaur wrote: »

People have to try to understand the fact that at any one job, mystics may seem unfit to it compared to other classes. though the mystic is so versatile, it does every job. Yes you would get stuff done quicker with another dd but a mystic gives the party a little bit of everything (not to mention an amazing buff that will save parties countless wipes). all this, while we haven't even acquired our high level skills. I'm sure most parties would be glad to have a mystic in it.. b:laugh

Pretty much this.

The mystic is the anti wipe/makes things run smoother tool for parties, They may not do any 1 job as well as there counterparts but that's simply because they shouldn't. (Why would there be a reason to play the others if they were)

We'll provide a plethora of unique abilities to save peoples butts/make the run easier and provide dps and heals along with a good chunk of the debuffs in the entire game.

Yes we're not aps, but honestly we are not the only class in the game without it either.

violetvalor

Vixter - Harshlands wrote: »

as for heads... i wonder if punishing sting will attack them?

Yes it will. b:victory