Yataghan Vortex mana cost

Furries - Dreamweaver
Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
edited December 2011 in Seeker
So ive been noticeing the mana cost of the seeker 2 spark skill
Yataghan Vortex

which ironically eats more mana at lvl 1 than sage/ demon dragons breath and bb/rb
and its on a char with a horrid mana pool

so i was wondering

we all use the following at lvl 75
Herb Yuanxiao

Restore MP 5000
Restore Time MP 10 sec.
Level Required: 75
Cooldown Time 10 sec.

that sounds like 500 mana per sec.

so although this would cost a tons on $ does this mean its theoretically possible to keep the aoe up for long peroids of time

and im also wondering how much the mana auras in rebirth give and at what intervals
Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    yuanxiao is what clerics use to keep up BB for long periods of time, so yes, it's what i'd try. how expensive it is depends on token prices; most people get it by trading tokens of luck for it at the... i forget which NPC.
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  • Pwnographic - Harshlands
    Pwnographic - Harshlands Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i use herbs to keep my vortext running, an my vortex is lvl 9, herbs give more then enought to stay in aoe, 1 down side, prepair to go threw a tone of herbs, i have went threw 30 herbs per boss in bh 59 wheni was 7x just so the assassin couldnt take agro an die bc lack of barbs, with mystic healing me, at 80 i set up a 30 min aoe grind party in PQ went threw like 300 herbs or close to it, its a very op skills, an i get alot of people saying good things about it in fc, if they only no how much it cost to keep it lvl an herb cost b:laugh
  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Pwnographic - Harshlands wrote: »
    i use herbs to keep my vortext running, an my vortex is lvl 9, herbs give more then enought to stay in aoe, 1 down side, prepair to go threw a tone of herbs, i have went threw 30 herbs per boss in bh 59 wheni was 7x just so the assassin couldnt take agro an die bc lack of barbs, with mystic healing me, at 80 i set up a 30 min aoe grind party in PQ went threw like 300 herbs or close to it, its a very op skills, an i get alot of people saying good things about it in fc, if they only no how much it cost to keep it lvl an herb cost b:laugh

    the MP cost scares me of the skill, and I've been thinking of getting an MP hat with 2 high grade torquoise shards in it simply because I dont want to burn through herbs like a crack fiend.
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  • Pwnographic - Harshlands
    Pwnographic - Harshlands Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the MP cost scares me of the skill, and I've been thinking of getting an MP hat with 2 high grade torquoise shards in it simply because I dont want to burn through herbs like a crack fiend.

    Hope this not to scary, lvl 9 goes threw 406.7 mana every 1.5 secs, deals base weapon damage + 95% weapon damage+ 7430.4. and i just compaired to a wizards aoe, seekers hit harder:P lvl 75 event herbs i think is around 500 mana a sec, just a little tip, in fc an what not
    lest this works for me because im charmless.
    have lvl 60 mana pots+ herbs
    because herbs,lvl 75 event pots cheeper then pots u buy, use your lvl 60 pots to fil lyou mana bar up, i used vortex when i had half mana bar an a herb right away, i lost out on my aoe, it ate mana so fast, so always make sure your mana full before u go into vortex
    Edit: i still learning out my skills, i did lvl fast,but i took 3 days from lvl to test combos an whatever, i noticed something when i use vortex on boss, it says resist every 3 secs, so i think its trying to maybe stun to?i cant remember what sword buff i had on, but i dont no why it says resist, it never stun mobs...the only way to stun mobs is P.Dance sword buff an wait for the icon pop on the target then use stalagstrike an it stuns... but wtf does it says resist on boss,lol
  • supertroyman1
    supertroyman1 Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    lol ur gonna love this. demon yataghans vortex has a 20% chance to stun for 1 sec every hitb:chuckle.think
    50 mobs-20%=2/5s of the mobs stunned every 1.5 secondes
    kinda funny that its basically possible to stun spam a 59 skillb:laugh
  • Omea - Lost City
    Omea - Lost City Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    supertroyman1 wrote: »
    lol ur gonna love this. demon yataghans vortex has a 20% chance to stun for 1 sec every hitb:chuckle.think
    50 mobs-20%=2/5s of the mobs stunned every 1.5 secondes
    kinda funny that its basically possible to stun spam a 59 skillb:laugh

    Demon skills for lvl 59 skills are available at lvl 99, and only when they're in the game, which the EG Sage/Demon skills aren't.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    supertroyman1 wrote: »
    lol ur gonna love this. demon yataghans vortex has a 20% chance to stun for 1 sec every hitb:chuckle.think
    50 mobs-20%=2/5s of the mobs stunned every 1.5 secondes
    kinda funny that its basically possible to stun spam a 59 skillb:laugh

    Sounds like sage DB, it probably also means you have instand all aggro.
    Good thing seeker is HA with defence lvl buf than XD
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  • QuakeX - Lost City
    QuakeX - Lost City Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    no points stunning them. with tat much more dmg, and using HA armor and having on bloodpaint, with 30 def lvl. id rather have +2 [14m att range] in gv so it hits a wider range.

    but yea watever, sage sux so all go demon pls

    so my sage books cheaper.
  • DrHook - Lost City
    DrHook - Lost City Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Like I said before, it seems as though you could keep the AoE up indefinatly.
    Not to mention that normal pots, apoth, elixers, and mp food all have seperate cooldowns,and you can use a long lasting pot (a higher lvl verion of focus powder) in tandem with there shorter duration counterparts...

    A combination of all these options might be a tad cheaper than the token food alone... Just my two cents.
  • OMarvelous - Sanctuary
    OMarvelous - Sanctuary Posts: 339 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Just wondering if I'm the only one that plays

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE-rD8vcY4U

    whilst playing his Seeker? Especially when I pop on Vortex on some bosses. Lol.
  • martygdog
    martygdog Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    even at lv10 it dont drop just keep ur finger on herb. n continue watchin tv.
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    some of the buffs already need mirages so why dont you simply get a MP charm that's PWEs easy solution to the problem here b:chuckle
  • Dagnatic - Sanctuary
    Dagnatic - Sanctuary Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Im not sure, My seeker isnt that high, but i dont think a MP charm can replentish HP fast enough to keep it going, so maybe a combination of it and Herbs would keep it up cheeper
  • CptMaggots - Lost City
    CptMaggots - Lost City Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    OMarvelous - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just wondering if I'm the only one that plays

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE-rD8vcY4U

    whilst playing his Seeker? Especially when I pop on Vortex on some bosses. Lol.

    I play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo b:laughb:victory
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  • OMarvelous - Sanctuary
    OMarvelous - Sanctuary Posts: 339 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Haha CptMaggots! Totally appropriate. :3
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Right now at 61, I can't hold the AoE even with a mana charm. It kinda takes the fun out of this skill. At what level did charm alone support this skill for you guys?
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Right now at 61, I can't hold the AoE even with a mana charm. It kinda takes the fun out of this skill. At what level did charm alone support this skill for you guys?
    u gotta MPpot. and mines still lv1 :P
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  • OMarvelous - Sanctuary
    OMarvelous - Sanctuary Posts: 339 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Mines level 1 still and yeah, you gotta pot even with charm. Then it lasts for as long as I want it. FUN.
  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    At lvl 60 you need 40ish pints in mag, to get 1500+ mana pool to keep it running with charm..

    Once you get to 75... the Yujunahjsd whatever pots work fine,
  • Feridon - Raging Tide
    Feridon - Raging Tide Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I agree. As soon as you can use Level 75 Mp Herbs, there is no need for a Mp Charm anymore. Not even when you max Vortex.
  • DrHook - Lost City
    DrHook - Lost City Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    vristion wrote: »
    At lvl 60 you need 40ish pints in mag, to get 1500+ mana pool to keep it running with charm..

    Once you get to 75... the Yujunahjsd whatever pots work fine,

    I'd sooner poo myself in public, than put magic on a physical class...
  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    DrHook - Lost City wrote: »
    I'd sooner poo myself in public, than put magic on a physical class...

    Kewl....take pictures for us that like votex to run longer than that of a standard AoE...



    b:chuckle


    must not realize there is a way to restat when not needed there anymore b:chuckle
  • Eraldus - Sanctuary
    Eraldus - Sanctuary Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    vristion wrote: »
    Kewl....take pictures for us that like votex to run longer than that of a standard AoE...



    b:chuckle


    must not realize there is a way to restat when not needed there anymore b:chuckle

    40 points in mag will make you spin for what, 1 or 2 more secs?

    Now that is an achievement...
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  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ^^ Wow people should read before responding....^^


    40 - 45ish points in mag will give you 1500 mana pool, which you will need for it to run continuiously with a CHARM...... Thats the ACHIEVEMENT for lvl 60s who cant use lvl 75 mana pots...



    kkkkkkkkkkkkk?
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    At what level did anyone able to run it with just charm and no added MAG?
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    people are adding mag to their seekers? 40 of it? in order to run one skill, between level 60 and level 75?

    well. i no longer feel at all bad over having added 25 vit to mine before level 30.
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  • vristion
    vristion Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    At what level did anyone able to run it with just charm and no added MAG?

    95+ with OUT some mag gear
  • DrHook - Lost City
    DrHook - Lost City Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    vristion wrote: »
    Kewl....take pictures for us that like votex to run longer than that of a standard AoE...



    b:chuckle


    must not realize there is a way to restat when not needed there anymore b:chuckle

    My friend, instead of wasting potential damage and money for restat, take the money you would spend to restat and buy...

    normal pots
    elixers
    long lasting apoth
    and instant apoth (can be stacked with long lasting apoth)

    Sure, you might have to push some buttons, but is that so hard? XD
  • brent40
    brent40 Posts: 49
    edited March 2011
    DrHook - Lost City wrote: »
    My friend, instead of wasting potential damage and money for restat, take the money you would spend to restat and buy...

    normal pots
    elixers
    long lasting apoth
    and instant apoth (can be stacked with long lasting apoth)

    Sure, you might have to push some buttons, but is that so hard? XD

    Why would i take money, and spend it on somthing that take 3 times more effort to get the same effect?..



    Your logic is a bit flawed here...
  • DrHook - Lost City
    DrHook - Lost City Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Three times more effort = moving your finger?
    DrHook - Lost City wrote: »
    My friend, instead of wasting potential damage...

    My logic...

    And vit might actually be better than mag...

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