Mid-barbs plea

TigerGate - Archosaur

I just want to start this off by apologizing if it sounds like a QQ thread

so i was trying to do a bh39 today and after spamming for healers and dd's in arch for about 30 minutes (how hard is it to find dd's, i mean really!) i started spamming in WC and eventually managed to get a squad togeather.
i had several people ask me if i had tabs (leeches)

so i had a squad together, a fairly standard affair, one tank (me), one cleric and three dd's (one mystic and two seekers). i was kind of intrigued as to how the new classes would play out in dungeons and what they would bring to the group.

one of the group members asks for the lead so that she can invite a friend, i see no reason to deny the request so i give it to her. her 'friend' a level 97 archer then proceeds to solo the entire dungeon.

i don't play to have high level people play for me, i play because i like working as a group.

at no point should it be impossible or even slightly hard to find people to run that dungeon because there is a long stretch of time being lv50 that everyone should experience.

everyday i see people whine and complain about high level noobs and how they are ruining this game. simple solution is to not level them to high levels.
stop doing other peoples quests for them.
stop running low level dungeons for people.
stop munchkining out this game with jones blessing

if you want to get people to actually learn the classes then make them learn the class and stop playing for them.

Furries - Dreamweaver

TigerGate - Archosaur wrote: »

I just want to start this off by apologizing if it sounds like a QQ thread

so i was trying to do a bh39 today and after spamming for healers and dd's in arch for about 30 minutes (how hard is it to find dd's, i mean really!) i started spamming in WC and eventually managed to get a squad togeather.
i had several people ask me if i had tabs (leeches)

so i had a squad together, a fairly standard affair, one tank (me), one cleric and three dd's (one mystic and two seekers). i was kind of intrigued as to how the new classes would play out in dungeons and what they would bring to the group.

one of the group members asks for the lead so that she can invite a friend, i see no reason to deny the request so i give it to her. her 'friend' a level 97 archer then proceeds to solo the entire dungeon.

i don't play to have high level people play for me, i play because i like working as a group.

at no point should it be impossible or even slightly hard to find people to run that dungeon because there is a long stretch of time being lv50 that everyone should experience.

everyday i see people whine and complain about high level noobs and how they are ruining this game. simple solution is to not level them to high levels.
stop doing other peoples quests for them.
stop running low level dungeons for people.
stop munchkining out this game with jones blessing

if you want to get people to actually learn the classes then make them learn the class and stop playing for them.

other than the fact that i love my jones blessing... i agree with the rest 100%

AgentPotato - Archosaur

TigerGate - Archosaur wrote: »

I just want to start this off by apologizing if it sounds like a QQ thread

so i was trying to do a bh39 today and after spamming for healers and dd's in arch for about 30 minutes (how hard is it to find dd's, i mean really!) i started spamming in WC and eventually managed to get a squad togeather.
i had several people ask me if i had tabs (leeches)

so i had a squad together, a fairly standard affair, one tank (me), one cleric and three dd's (one mystic and two seekers). i was kind of intrigued as to how the new classes would play out in dungeons and what they would bring to the group.

one of the group members asks for the lead so that she can invite a friend, i see no reason to deny the request so i give it to her. her 'friend' a level 97 archer then proceeds to solo the entire dungeon.

i don't play to have high level people play for me, i play because i like working as a group.

at no point should it be impossible or even slightly hard to find people to run that dungeon because there is a long stretch of time being lv50 that everyone should experience.

everyday i see people whine and complain about high level noobs and how they are ruining this game. simple solution is to not level them to high levels.
stop doing other peoples quests for them.
stop running low level dungeons for people.
stop munchkining out this game with jones blessing

if you want to get people to actually learn the classes then make them learn the class and stop playing for them.

lol the problem is that most of us have experienced that long stretch from level 50 way too many times already. In fact, bh39 is the instance I hate the most in the entire game, I'll do anything to get through it as fast as possible, and I know a lot of other people that will too. If you want to learn to work together, wait until you're in your 70's, the bh instance is much nicer and everyone has pretty much all of their endgame skills by then.

Furries - Dreamweaver

AgentPotato - Archosaur wrote: »

lol the problem is that most of us have experienced that long stretch from level 50 way too many times already. In fact, bh39 is the instance I hate the most in the entire game, I'll do anything to get through it as fast as possible, and I know a lot of other people that will too. If you want to learn to work together, wait until you're in your 70's, the bh instance is much nicer and everyone has pretty much all of their endgame skills by then.

thats a matter of opinion

bh 29-51 barb are very useful in a sqadu and u get to actully play together as a sqaud in an unwined instance. bh 59 isn't that fun at all on a barb becuase the whole place is magic mobs, so your pretty much there as a sad dd with an hp buff and 69+ its too much to do unwined and its too boring wined.

IMO BH 29-51 are the best bh there are

my lvl 71 cleric (70 at the time) has soloed the entire bh 59 under his own buffs

my lvl 92 barb cant do that...



as easily...

AgentPotato - Archosaur

Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »

thats a matter of opinion

bh 29-51 barb are very useful in a sqadu and u get to actully play together as a sqaud in an unwined instance. bh 59 isn't that fun at all on a barb becuase the whole place is magic mobs, so your pretty much there as a sad dd with an hp buff and 69+ its too much to do unwined and its too boring wined.

IMO BH 29-51 are the best bh there are

Well, if you're aiming to feel useful as a barb, then you should probably try to stay in your 50's for the rest of the time you play barb. Or go sage and buy sage buffs. b:shutup

Yulk_owns - Lost City

TigerGate - Archosaur wrote: »

I just want to start this off by apologizing if it sounds like a QQ thread

so i was trying to do a bh39 today and after spamming for healers and dd's in arch for about 30 minutes (how hard is it to find dd's, i mean really!) i started spamming in WC and eventually managed to get a squad togeather.
i had several people ask me if i had tabs (leeches)

so i had a squad together, a fairly standard affair, one tank (me), one cleric and three dd's (one mystic and two seekers). i was kind of intrigued as to how the new classes would play out in dungeons and what they would bring to the group.

one of the group members asks for the lead so that she can invite a friend, i see no reason to deny the request so i give it to her. her 'friend' a level 97 archer then proceeds to solo the entire dungeon.

i don't play to have high level people play for me, i play because i like working as a group.

at no point should it be impossible or even slightly hard to find people to run that dungeon because there is a long stretch of time being lv50 that everyone should experience.

everyday i see people whine and complain about high level noobs and how they are ruining this game. simple solution is to not level them to high levels.
stop doing other peoples quests for them.
stop running low level dungeons for people.
stop munchkining out this game with jones blessing

if you want to get people to actually learn the classes then make them learn the class and stop playing for them.

All I got to say is, my barbs can tank their own FBs with same lvl just fine without these LVL90+ and I have lots of 70s and 80s too. But that is the new PVE (well not anymore since it has been a while) and it took down the skill level of players. Exp fast gain, genies, blessing, -int BMs and sins, instant cast have really killed the mindset of 95% of the players IMHO, if not, 99%. I got to say, why you were in BH in the first place? I hope is spirit you went there for b:shocked

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

at no point should it be impossible or even slightly hard to find people to run that dungeon because there is a long stretch of time being lv50 that everyone should experience.

A week?

DaKillanator - Raging Tide

*looks at your server*

okay, now I think I know why you can't find a squad...

TigerGate - Archosaur

sigh, the first three people who replied had perfectly expectable replies, the rest of you just don't seem to get the point though.

if you actually play the game, instead of power leveling the entire time, then suddenly you will magically find yourself doing bh39 a lot more. in fact if you don't hyper session and fc your way though the level 50's then you just might find yourself at that level range for a lot longer then one week.

also its not about not being able to tank your own instances, where you got that idea i don't know so we will leave it at that.

the main point is
everyday i see people whine and complain about high level noobs and how they are ruining this game. simple solution is to not level them to high levels.
stop doing other peoples quests for them.
stop running low level dungeons for people.
stop munchkining out this game with jones blessing

if you want to get people to actually learn the classes then make them learn the class and stop playing for them.

Quilue - Sanctuary

What you need to realize is that most lvl 50s don't get to find people to hyper FC with unless they are alts of lvl high level mains already. BH is actually the fast and easy way to level if you are looking to face roll through your levels.

Most lowbies looking for BH are looking to level fast with minimal effort, because the exp it gives is so HUGE compared to what mobs and quests would give, and because it's a freaking instance that's 20 levels below. This is why people would invite a high level friend to do it for them. They're not in your BH to learn their class and play the game, they're in there to get the easy exp from green-named mobs and green-named bosses.

KasTheSeeker - Dreamweaver

Why not stop doing BH in the first place?

I remember the good old times when we leveled by helping people with their FB. Everyone was very grateful if a 7x person joined to kick *** in your FBs. And now you come here telling us NOT to help you? Not to power level?

Well one thing. I have a BM level 90. My main and my only char over level 20. I play since over 2 years. So there you have it, I didn't power level. Now I know that these days with BH, leveling is quicker, but still, I do not feel like wasting another 2 years of my life trying to level up another char to 90. BH / Hyper / Oracles and all that stuff give us THE OPTION to powerlevel, it does force nobody to do so. But think logical. Saving time = saving money. So if you powerlevel a level 1 character to 55 in a frost run, or if you decide to spend 40 hours of your real life into it, tell me what is worth more?