1st strike for a high lvl kill

SinfuINature - Harshlands
SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
edited March 2011 in Arigora Colosseum
is this an ok combo for a sin my lvl 80 to pk a high lvl 90+ (everyone but a BM and a Barb)...

have 2 spark and be in Stealth>Deaden Nerves>Wolf Emblem(30sec)>Double Spark(12sec)>Inner Harmony>Comes out of stealth with Headhunt>Rising Dragon Strike>Rib Strike>Shadow Teleport>Normal>Normal>Normal>Tackling Slash>Normal...

or should it go like this...

have 2 spark and be in Stealth>Deaden Nerves>Wolf Emblem(30sec)>Double Spark(12sec)>Inner Harmony>Comes out of stealth with Power Dash(8sec)>Rising Dragon Strike>Headhunt>Normal...


I can always throw in a Genie skill like Thunderstorm for a little more damage
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Your combo starts out with double sparking from stealth... prepare to get trolled, because your fail *** deserves it.
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    prepare to be killed by a lvl 100 stealthed sin when you double spark in stealth
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  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Your combo starts out with double sparking from stealth... prepare to get trolled, because your fail *** deserves it.

    so b/c i ask if this is good combo to do you call me a fail ***... lol your a tool. instead of being a ()()llllllD head about it just say "hey you shouldnt spark in stealth b/c blah blah blah" what ever you want to say and i bet you are still blue named...

    and i dont think there are many 100+ sins getting pked by a lvl 80 sin no matter how good at pvp the lvl 80 is... lvl 80 dont have $400 worth of cash shopped gear on... and if there was a lvl 100 stealth sin trying to kill me im pretty sure he wouldnt have to be in stealth to do it...

    the reason why i was going to spark in stealth and use wolf emblem is b/c i wanted to get the most damage out of that 1st hit so thier charm would be about to tick they couldnt pop pots to help keep them selves alive... if im killing a high lvl chances are if they are not stunned they will kill me if they start hitting me... even a lvl 90 cleric can do damage to a sin...

    so now moving on why is it bad or fail to spark in stealth? can they see you if you spark? i know that sparking does not bring you out of stealth...
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »

    so now moving on why is it bad or fail to spark in stealth? can they see you if you spark? i know that sparking does not bring you out of stealth...

    *facepalms*
    I would try to explain the failness of this but tbh you've left me speechless and I don't even know where to begin.
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    holly lord does not everyone have the im the L33T god of PvP and i know all since the start and no one taught me a thing b/c as charlie sheen would say "i have tiger blood and i win" attitude.

    how did you learn 2+2=4? some one had to teach you or tell you it did. so if i dont know its not good to double spark in stealth its b/c no one has taken the time to tell me or why it is not good to do... so some one tell me why... and maybe instead of saying "omy you fail so much and your not uber leet like me b/c you said spark in stealth... i will kill you in one sec just by pulling out my weapon... nooooooobbbbbbb." say hey man its not good to spark in stealth b/c .... you should try this combo instead b/c this is what others have told me or i have picked up along the way...

    i never really pvped as a sin only as a barb on a diff server and barbs dont have the stun or stealth skills that sins do so its not the same kind of pvp... b:angry
  • SmifnWesson - Lost City
    SmifnWesson - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    they are calling you fail cause the combo and **** you are explaining are basically saying that you dont wanna try to learn how to play you just wanna pop out and kill people who are unprepared, basically its like killin a noob, and bragging about it.....

    you are probably just like that demon sin outside of sundown town i spanked who cant play his class unless he sparks and headhunts in stealth.

    i find however tho most sins just do what you do....in fact now that i think about it I have never been attacked by an unstealthed sin(even a r8/9) they still pop me with hh out of stealth....

    the only time i personally think its acceptable to spark and attack in stealth is when your about to group attack or attack multiple people....at least then it doesnt seem so lame....
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    so b/c i ask if this is good combo to do you call me a fail ***... lol your a tool. instead of being a ()()llllllD head about it just say "hey you shouldnt spark in stealth b/c blah blah blah" what ever you want to say and i bet you are still blue named...

    and i dont think there are many 100+ sins getting pked by a lvl 80 sin no matter how good at pvp the lvl 80 is... lvl 80 dont have $400 worth of cash shopped gear on... and if there was a lvl 100 stealth sin trying to kill me im pretty sure he wouldnt have to be in stealth to do it...

    the reason why i was going to spark in stealth and use wolf emblem is b/c i wanted to get the most damage out of that 1st hit so thier charm would be about to tick they couldnt pop pots to help keep them selves alive... if im killing a high lvl chances are if they are not stunned they will kill me if they start hitting me... even a lvl 90 cleric can do damage to a sin...

    so now moving on why is it bad or fail to spark in stealth? can they see you if you spark? i know that sparking does not bring you out of stealth...

    I had a response for your post... then I noticed the part where you said sparking doesn't bring you out of stealth... I just... wow... I don't even have to say anything, that statement alone shows just how stupid you are. You're an Assassin... that doesn't even know how stealth works... *sigh* wow...
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Long story short, any spark cancels stealth.

    It is just safer to use 1 spark since doublespark and triple spark has a resist long enough for someone with big attention span to expel/AD/immune pot.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Long story short, any spark cancels stealth.

    It is just safer to use 1 spark since doublespark and triple spark has a resist long enough for someone with big attention span to expel/AD/immune pot.

    Nope, only triple sparking does, single and double let you stay in stealth. Honestly ALL sparks should bring you out of stealth, triple sparks force sins out of stealth because it's just plain OP to come outta nowhere triple sparked, but apparently single and double sparks aren't OP outta stealth, yeah thanks for the consistency... ALL sparks should bring you out of stealth and thinking otherwise is idiotic.

    Anyway.. nope, actually... I think I've made my point.
  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    A lot of people disapprove of sparking in stealth. It's like they say about a veno, if you rely on just your pet then you're taking the easy way out. If you rely on just stealth, you're taking the easy way. I guess if that's what you want to do go for it, but you will get trolololoed and laughed at for it by some people even if you kill them.

    Of course that doesn't mean you should completely never use the skill.

    Also, Zan is almost always white or red named on his bm, just because someone's not on a pvp server doesn't mean they don't pk. Yes it might be different but it's still a type of PvP when they drop the blue name.

    My assassin bored me immensely so I can't really tell you how to pvp C: just telling you why you're getting trolled/giggled at by some people.
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Tearle - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    A lot of people disapprove of sparking in stealth. It's like they say about a veno, if you rely on just your pet then you're taking the easy way out. If you rely on just stealth, you're taking the easy way. I guess if that's what you want to do go for it, but you will get trolololoed and laughed at for it by some people even if you kill them.

    Of course that doesn't mean you should completely never use the skill.

    Also, Zan is almost always white or red named on his bm, just because someone's not on a pvp server doesn't mean they don't pk. Yes it might be different but it's still a type of PvP when they drop the blue name.

    My assassin bored me immensely so I can't really tell you how to pvp C: just telling you why you're getting trolled/giggled at by some people.

    Yay Tearle :D All stickin' up for me and **** <3

    But yeah.. check the DW pk rankings, I'm ranked number 4 for Clerics... pretty sure that means I've been around the block a time or two when it comes to pking :P

    *Edited because I don't feel like leaving an explanation of how I'm nearly always white up*
  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yay Tearle :D All stickin' up for me and **** <3

    But yeah.. check the DW pk rankings, I'm ranked number 4 for Clerics... pretty sure that means I've been around the block a time or two when it comes to pking :P

    *Edited because I don't feel like leaving an explanation of how I'm nearly always white up*

    Now tank fc for me so I can level once in a while D:<
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Tearle - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Now tank fc for me so I can level once in a while D:<

    I have to buy another set of claws first :/ But if I FC with you I demand payment.... I've done enough of that instance to last a lifetime >:(
  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I have to buy another set of claws first :/ But if I FC with you I demand payment.... I've done enough of that instance to last a lifetime >:(

    uh, no thanks then.

    /leaves as to not derail thread more
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  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I had a response for your post... then I noticed the part where you said sparking doesn't bring you out of stealth... I just... wow... I don't even have to say anything, that statement alone shows just how stupid you are. You're an Assassin... that doesn't even know how stealth works... *sigh* wow...

    so you call me stupid and say that i havent read about my class to know that spark brings you out of stealth... i know that 3x spark will bring you outta stealth... but seeing i did say 2 sparks inmy post says that 1. im not high enough to have 3 spark 2. i know that 2x spark lets you stay in stealth b/c i did read

    i never said that i wanted to kill lowbies or even **** enamed ppl... i said i wanted to kill high lvls 90+ red ppl... most have charms and that can kill a 81 sin in about 3 hits. also i dual all the time... thats no stealth and they are ready to fight so that i do learn my class.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    so you call me stupid and say that i havent read about my class to know that spark brings you out of stealth... i know that 3x spark will bring you outta stealth... but seeing i did say 2 sparks inmy post says that 1. im not high enough to have 3 spark 2. i know that 2x spark lets you stay in stealth b/c i did read

    i never said that i wanted to kill lowbies or even **** enamed ppl... i said i wanted to kill high lvls 90+ red ppl... most have charms and that can kill a 81 sin in about 3 hits. also i dual all the time... thats no stealth and they are ready to fight so that i do learn my class.

    So the main reason you wanna spark in stealth is to bring down higher levels? Wow you must really ****ing suck, because I can do that without stealth.

    http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6456/ownedda.jpg

    Pfft... if a carebear can do it without stealth sparking, why can't you? :)
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i killed a lvl 97 celric when i was lvl 72 (no stealth and i didnt have all my skills to regain chi)... i havent really tried all that much to kill a lot of high lvls i just know when 80 sin vs a r8/r9 archer i die in about 2 shots... clerics do a ton damage also with that sirens kiss thing (and most 90+ players have charms for when they do FC... there is no need to spark in stealth if im killing anything near my lvl unless i know they are charmed...

    and your a BM full buffed (charmed im sure)... you can take hits with that... sin cant get hit that much(untill they get 5aps)... thats why they put stealth in there... plus what lvl was that guy? he could have been your lvl...
  • Tearle - Dreamweaver
    Tearle - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    plus what lvl was that guy? he could have been your lvl...

    Looks like tt90 AA from here but don't quote me on that :s
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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    i killed a lvl 97 celric when i was lvl 72 (no stealth and i didnt have all my skills to regain chi)... i havent really tried all that much to kill a lot of high lvls i just know when 80 sin vs a r8/r9 archer i die in about 2 shots... clerics do a ton damage also with that sirens kiss thing (and most 90+ players have charms for when they do FC... there is no need to spark in stealth if im killing anything near my lvl unless i know they are charmed...

    and your a BM full buffed (charmed im sure)... you can take hits with that... sin cant get hit that much(untill they get 5aps)... thats why they put stealth in there... plus what lvl was that guy? he could have been your lvl...

    Actually I wasn't charmed, knowing how to play my class and being able to stunlock really helped out there.

    Anyway.. as a BM... with +4 as my highest refine at level 100 fighting against people with Rank 8... it's hard to tank their hits. (At average refines, at +10 if I miss any of my stuns and I'm uncharmed.. it's a real challenge to live.) But yeah.. see there's your problem, you're trying to kill Rank 8/9 geared players.. at level 81... Rank 8 is extremely powerful even against level 100s, thinking you can do anything against it when it's in the hands of a skilled player even with double sparking from stealth... at level 81... is just stupid. 'nuff said.

    Oh.. "sins can't hit that much"? I'm fairly certain they have the ability to one/two shot quite a few classes without much trouble.
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    People are still making Sins for PvP? Seriously, quit this fail of a class already and learn to PvP on a real class. Yes I'm aware my avatar is a Sin.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    People are still making Sins for PvP? Seriously, quit this fail of a class already and learn to PvP on a real class. Yes I'm aware my avatar is a Sin.

    But Mr.Okeano!! That would require them to actually learn how to fight instead of relying on stealth! You can't expect them to actually do something as horrible as that! b:shocked
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Actually I wasn't charmed, knowing how to play my class and being able to stunlock really helped out there.

    Anyway.. as a BM... with +4 as my highest refine at level 100 fighting against people with Rank 8... it's hard to tank their hits. (At average refines, at +10 if I miss any of my stuns and I'm uncharmed.. it's a real challenge to live.) But yeah.. see there's your problem, you're trying to kill Rank 8/9 geared players.. at level 81... Rank 8 is extremely powerful even against level 100s, thinking you can do anything against it when it's in the hands of a skilled player even with double sparking from stealth... at level 81... is just stupid. 'nuff said.

    Oh.. "sins can't hit that much"? I'm fairly certain they have the ability to one/two shot quite a few classes without much trouble.

    so back to the point at hand i asked a question... your response make you a ()()llllllllllllllllD head plain and simple and dont miss quote me... i said "sins cant GET hit that much" never said sins cant hit that much...

    i still have yet to jump out of stealth double sparked... so **** off... it was just a question... and tbh i dont care if i come out of stealth sparked and HH that guy and kill them with 1 shot just to hear them QQ about how OP a sin is... i dont kill white names so i have no pitty on a boold red guy who has been jacking all lower lvls then him anyways... i got killed by lvl 80+ all the time (at least 30 times) while i was lvl 30-60... so you tell me what honor that is pking a lvl 30 while your a lvl 90 cleric lol... just the other day a lvl 100 cleric pked my wife (lvl 60 cleric) 3 times while she was trying to turn in a quest... so you better believe if i see her im going to come outta stealth sparked and 1st hit is going to be HH... life isnt fair and neither is this game... b:bye
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    But Mr.Okeano!! That would require them to actually learn how to fight instead of relying on stealth! You can't expect them to actually do something as horrible as that! b:shocked

    you ever pk a lower lvl white named player while they were questing? or a player 10 to 20 lvls lower than you... i know a lvl 77 cleric vs a fully buffed lvl 77 BM is a fair fight right... i think you are starting to QQ on the sin class b/c you dont have stealth... but if you did im sure you would use it... b:cry more btw your sig is ugly
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    you ever pk a lower lvl white named player while they were questing? or a player 10 to 20 lvls lower than you... i know a lvl 77 cleric vs a fully buffed lvl 77 BM is a fair fight right... i think you are starting to QQ on the sin class b/c you dont have stealth... but if you did im sure you would use it... b:cry more btw your sig is ugly

    Uh... First off I tend to avoid lower level players unless they're just plain being annoying, more than half the time I fight someone they're my level with better gear/weapon. Second.. The Cleric in that screen shot is level 90+, or did you not notice the robes he wore? Third... I refuse to play the Assassin class specifically because of how OP it is, the main reason being stealth. I may be from a PvE server but I'm willing to bet I'm far better at PvP than you'll ever be. Oh, and... since we're bringing up topics that are totally unrelated to the subject... I feel sorry for your wife, can't believe she married someone as pathetic as you. b:cute

    No but really... if you're gonna fail as much as you do... at least have the decency to keep it to yourself instead of showing it off by posting on the forums.
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    yes you are soooooo leet that i cannot ever touch your greatness... teach me Obi-Wan Kenobi b:chuckle like i said i used to be a barb and i could pvp just fine with that class... i picked a sin for more damage...i dont like archers (had a lvl 60 archer) or magic classes so sin was my next choice... i dont feel sorry how a red player dies... i got pked (1 shot) by high lvls all day while questing
    o btw i beat a lvl 100 archer in a dual yesterday... hmmmm funny no stealth/spark... didnt even spark come to think of it...

    im still learning how to pvp as a sin... i asked a questions and got blasted by you for no reason... i just asked a question... then you try to defend your harsh comments b/c saying im a noob/fail, sins are OP b/c of stealth and i can never touch your greatness.... we will never meet on a server or in RL so you or your comments really mean nothing to me... you never know i might ask a question about pvp one day and you can jump all over me and say how fail i am for just simply asking a question lol ... your a tool and a ()()lllllllllllllD b:bye
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    yes you are soooooo leet that i cannot ever touch your greatness... teach me Obi-Wan Kenobi b:chuckle like i said i used to be a barb and i could pvp just fine with that class... i picked a sin for more damage...i dont like archers (had a lvl 60 archer) or magic classes so sin was my next choice... i dont feel sorry how a red player dies... i got pked (1 shot) by high lvls all day while questing
    o btw i beat a lvl 100 archer in a dual yesterday... hmmmm funny no stealth/spark... didnt even spark come to think of it...

    im still learning how to pvp as a sin... i asked a questions and got blasted by you for no reason... i just asked a question... then you try to defend your harsh comments b/c saying im a noob/fail, sins are OP b/c of stealth and i can never touch your greatness.... we will never meet on a server or in RL so you or your comments really mean nothing to me... you never know i might ask a question about pvp one day and you can jump all over me and say how fail i am for just simply asking a question lol ... your a tool and a ()()lllllllllllllD b:bye

    You asked about stealth sparking.. so you could use it... stealth sparking in itself is fail, but not even being able to figure out a good combo on your own? That's just sad, seriously dude if you're gonna be a sin then instead of being like 96% of all the sins out there and relying stealth or sparking from stealth... learn how to fight, that way when you stealth spark the wrong person and fail you'll actually be able to fight them and win.

    Oh wait, You beat a level 100 Archer in a duel?! Dude you must be so awesome at PvP to manage such a victory as that! I was wrong about you, I'm so sorry for all my negative comments! Gee wiz mister, beating someone in a duel.. gosh! You're so amazing! Now do it in actual pk
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You asked about stealth sparking.. so you could use it... stealth sparking in itself is fail, but not even being able to figure out a good combo on your own? That's just sad, seriously dude if you're gonna be a sin then instead of being like 96% of all the sins out there and relying stealth or sparking from stealth... learn how to fight, that way when you stealth spark the wrong person and fail you'll actually be able to fight them and win.

    Oh wait, You beat a level 100 Archer in a duel?! Dude you must be so awesome at PvP to manage such a victory as that! I was wrong about you, I'm so sorry for all my negative comments! Gee wiz mister, beating someone in a duel.. gosh! You're so amazing! Now do it in actual pk


    i know right... one day i will teach you... tool... what i was saying is that i dont need spark stealth to beat some one... i was just asking if it was good to do/ok to do... and you jumped all over my nutts about it... and if i did use stealth/spark it it was for very high lvls who are pking low lvl white names... no i dont want a fair fight with them b/c they dont do fair fights... b:victory
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    i know right... one day i will teach you... tool... what i was saying is that i dont need spark stealth to beat some one... i was just asking if it was good to do/ok to do... and you jumped all over my nutts about it... and if i did use stealth/spark it it was for very high lvls who are pking low lvl white names... no i dont want a fair fight with them b/c they dont do fair fights... b:victory

    I love how you call me a tool then try to achieve some form of moral high ground by saying you only wanna stealth spark higher levels, when in reality you're doing nothing but sinking down to my level and you're acting just as bad as you try to make me out to be. Congrats on being an idiot.
  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I love how you call me a tool then try to achieve some form of moral high ground by saying you only wanna stealth spark higher levels, when in reality you're doing nothing but sinking down to my level and you're acting just as bad as you try to make me out to be. Congrats on being an idiot.


    so b/c i said i dont/want use it on ppl my lvl but i will/might use it on higher lvl pkers who pick on players 30-40 lvls lower than them b/c i dont care if they have a fair fight... makes me an idiot lol... ok if you say so master... but im still trying to match your greatness b/c you said i can never be as good as you in pvp makes you sound like a tool... b:victory
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    so b/c i said i dont/want use it on ppl my lvl but i will/might use it on higher lvl pkers who pick on players 30-40 lvls lower than them b/c i dont care if they have a fair fight... makes me an idiot lol... ok if you say so master... but im still trying to match your greatness b/c you said i can never be as good as you in pvp makes you sound like a tool... b:victory

    I don't mean it as "Oh wow I'm super duper amazing in PvP" I mean it as "You can't even PvP on the same level as someone from a PvE server" which, considering the fact that I was able to do something that you admit you can't.... is somewhat true. Like I said.. learn to fight without stealth sparking, honestly you shouldn't be going after higher levels in the first place since it's a losing battle. Even if you win it was due to stealth sparking, which makes it a hollow victory at best.

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