devs never learn

MeatBallzz - Sanctuary

they never learn to -unicorn- fix there mistakes b4 keeping on making new content. I'm sick and tired of it. and plz for god sake i'm not gunna make a ticket as it does no -rainbows-. Last ticket I made took over a month and never resolved. 0nes b4 that not helpful at all.

everything from

rubber banding at most npc's.

Dragon gate at cube in sanc server where circles do not match hands as well as pk when cube entrance.

MULTI clients all over the server. For god sake gms look at the catshops and there factions, its multi clients, consequence u get lag and ppl quitting because of it.
Naked glitch in water when the char waste is at low.

TT nerfing path done by the devs <TT3-x>. u guys make bosses harder so we have to spend RL money to get the coins. And no one is doing 3-x anymore and the ppl doing it are high lvl players widening the gap between the rich and poor

R8 AND R9 BEING cheap making players easier to get items and killing old players ? who worked hard on gear ? no way of unbinding items

MAKING the game as a gamble especially in packs

Nirvana chicken/ fox boss glitching

Stories of people getting accounts banned that spend too much ?

200m limit wtf all so we can buy the catshop license ? the limit is too low. at least set it at 500m in hand and in AU max price or have an option of increasing it.

and soon dont tell me nerfing of aps killing existing classes nerfing tt ?

WELL GL IN THE BAD SERVICE PWI PLZ FIX UR ISSUES B4 IT WoRSE.

- a player who is quitting because of bad service and yeah i know this post WILL GET EDITED M0VED AND WATEVER . but what better way to end it eh ? and btw TICKET SYSTEM SUCKS so much.

LASTLY feel free to post reply while this post is still in existence. I dont just speak for myself but all the ppl that have other glitches and problems in game.

edit:the wc said free stuff but there is none just making u -cake- here

akkibora

To most points i could not agree more.

Especially the TT3.x nerv has made it impossible for the average player in the range when he needs those level 90 and 99 TT drops to get them himself with an group of his level.

Lagg from my experience is not that bad. i barely ever have problems. .and if it comes from my isp.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

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Does QQing ever get anything done?

/discuss

Leprechaundh - Sanctuary

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

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Does QQing ever get anything done?

/discuss

No. Never.

akkibora

nor does trolling.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

Pretty much agree except on multilogging, It`s a way to sell stuff/earn cash while you do something on you main char, the expansion prolly will be a fail and the game will sink deeper in the abyss, taking last truck loads of mall ***** cash, then pwi will die and Forsaken World will become like pwi, will be ok for several years, after straight in the trash.

I`m never playing any other game from this company, I doubt other games have better (if any) support, in fact other chinese games I have played (Conquer Online 2.0, Myth War ) had crappy support and players kept ******** like here but the developers didn`t care due to the fact that morons still spend real cash here which makes the developers not bother to move a finger to fix something, why improve something if it still is a major cash cow, and improving /fixing something would require money, etc.

Tigriss_o - Raging Tide

MeatBallzz - Sanctuary wrote: »

MULTI clients all over the server. For god sake gms look at the catshops and there factions, its multi clients, consequence u get lag and ppl quitting because of it.

Hate to tell you but most of the catshops have their own computers. Thats not against the rules as far as I know. It's multiclienting on the same computer thats against the rules I think. Lags not that bad for me. Just in west archo I have issues. They get resolved when I hit that magic antilag button up near my characters picture.

The rubberbanding I agree on. The rest of the stuff I'm to low lvl to know what your talking about.

Oh I just remembered yesterday during PQ there was someone using what I was told is a genie skill that every time it was used lagged the hell out of everyone on screen.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

Catshop doesn't lag up Archo. Players do.

Fleuri - Sanctuary

Tigriss_o - Raging Tide wrote: »

Hate to tell you but most of the catshops have their own computers. Thats not against the rules as far as I know. It's multiclienting on the same computer thats against the rules I think.

Multiclienting used to not be possible without modding the game, and modding the game is bannable.

But they changed that and now you can multiclient without having to mod the game.

Ash_ketchups - Sanctuary

Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »

Multiclienting used to not be possible without modding the game, and modding the game is bannable.

But they changed that and now you can multiclient without having to mod the game.

Even back then there were a few ways to do it without modding the game.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »

Multiclienting used to not be possible without modding the game, and modding the game is bannable.

But they changed that and now you can multiclient without having to mod the game.

^ that.

To my knowledge, the Terms and Conditions only says 'modifying file files' are against the rules. If you can do it without modifying the game files, which for your information is very easy, then I don't see why you can't.

chaoticshelly

As far as I know, multi clienting is a bannable offense. Multi boxing, isn't.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

As far as I know, multi clienting is a bannable offense. Multi boxing, isn't.

Mods are more 'trusted', therefore i think you should edit your post until you can quote from the ToS.

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

MeatBallzz - Sanctuary wrote: »

Stories of people getting accounts banned that spend too much ?

Could a moderator comment on this? Is there actually a limit to how much you can spend before you get banned?

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

Could a moderator comment on this? Is there actually a limit to how much you can spend before you get banned?

Lol. You get banned for not cash shopping.

/inb4anotherban

frankieraye

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

Could a moderator comment on this? Is there actually a limit to how much you can spend before you get banned?

Players get banned for violating the ToS, not for buying too much/too little ZEN.

As for multi-clienting, it's definitely bannable, and it's been bannable since the original launch of pwi.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

frankieraye wrote: »

Players get banned for violating the ToS, not for buying too much/too little ZEN.

As for multi-clienting, it's definitely bannable, and it's been bannable since the original launch of pwi.

Quote please?

Tigriss_o - Raging Tide

Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »

Multiclienting used to not be possible without modding the game, and modding the game is bannable.

But they changed that and now you can multiclient without having to mod the game.

I'm only going by what I have seen Mods and GMs say on the subject.

frankieraye

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

Quote please?

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8298932&postcount=17

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

frankieraye wrote: »

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8298932&postcount=17

I meant from the ToS, which I pressed accept to, not a GM post on a forum

Skippy - Dreamweaver

yes QQ works, TW system going back to normal tanks to all us QQers, more then 40 pages of QQ if i remember right,,, dunno..

so keep on QQinga nd all your dreams come treu !!! b:cute

TheDan - Sanctuary

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

I meant from the ToS, which I pressed accept to, not a GM post on a forum

It's not actually specifically stated in their ToS, but it does say:

11. User Conduct

Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 10 above, you agree not to take any of the following actions:

(k) Cheat or utilize unauthorized exploits in connection with the Games or the Service;

PWE MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, BLOCK ACCESS TO OR DELETE THE SERVICE OR ANY ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME WITH OR WITHOUT REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE.

Edit: Ninjaed Shelly, Lol yeah, at the same minute :O

chaoticshelly

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

I meant from the ToS, which I pressed accept to, not a GM post on a forum

11. User Conduct

Without limiting the foregoing, in addition to the User Content rules set forth in Section 10 above, you agree not to take any of the following actions:...

...(k) Cheat or utilize unauthorized exploits in connection with the Games or the Service;

I think this falls under the category.

Keep in mind that

2. Changes to terms

PWE may amend these Terms, the Rules of Conduct, and any EULA at any time in our sole discretion. Amendments and modifications will be effective immediately after publishing them on the Website or otherwise providing you a copy thereof, and you waive any right you may have to receive specific notice of such changes or modifications. You agree to and are responsible for checking this Agreement, the Rules of Conduct and any EULA periodically so you will be familiar with their contents as they may be amended or modified from time to time. By continuing to use any portion of the Service, you are signifying your acceptance of any revised or updated terms. If you do not agree to the amended terms, you must stop using the Service.

@TheDan - we posted at the same time ;-)

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

11. User Conduct

I see nothing specific about multiclienting.

If I accidentally deleted or say, I didn't wish to have the shortcut to the patcher. Then the logical .exe I stumble across would be elementclient.exe So I don't see it as bug exploitation.

chaoticshelly

Boogie, now you are just trolling and I suggest you stop. That quote is the refers exactly to that, and a GM has mentioned its a violation of the rules they set for the game. They can also, at any given time, add or remove rules as they wish.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

THEY HAVE NEW DANCES.


How can you say our devs aren't doing everything they can.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

Boogie, now you are just trolling and I suggest you stop. That quote is the refers exactly to that, and a GM has mentioned its a violation of the rules they set for the game. They can also, at any given time, add or remove rules as they wish.

It's not trolling. My points are valid. You and I both know it, I think it's just you can't accept defeat.

It's okay though, we all make mistakes.

frankieraye

There's also this:

(l) Using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players,


The issue in question would be a considered a design flaw, and one that indeed would give you an unfair advantage over other players. I realize that multi-clienting isn't specifically mentioned in the ToS, but it still falls under the above category.

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

Boogie, now you are just trolling and I suggest you stop. That quote is the refers exactly to that, and a GM has mentioned its a violation of the rules they set for the game. They can also, at any given time, add or remove rules as they wish.

In fairness, simply reading the ToS doesn't give one the specific impression that multi-clienting is a bannable offense. If I hadn't read the thread in the BOI forums specifically addressing the issue, it wouldn't have ever occurred to me that multi-clienting was against the rules for this particular game.

But yeah, I think just about every MMORPG provider has a clause in their ToS that says they can close your account for any reason or even no reason at all.

Traz - Dreamweaver

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

It's not trolling. My points are valid. You and I both know it, I think it's just you can't accept defeat.

It's okay though, we all make mistakes.

ToS wrote:

18. Disciplinary Action/Account Termination
PWE MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, BLOCK ACCESS TO OR DELETE THE SERVICE OR ANY ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME WITH OR WITHOUT REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE.

any other "where does it say that" doesn't mean jack.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary

Don`t see why it`s such a big deal, players can use 2 computers but cannot use 2 accounts per computer, let`s say i have a 1 GB/s net and a super duper mega PC, it wouldn`t put more lags on the server, not more than 2 separate pc`s with a slow net and bad configuration. Or what`s the big deal about multilogging, so players have 2 waste their valuable time either selling stuff or grinding? Then remove auction house fees and I`m sure you will see less ppl multilogging!