Stop the mega-QQ madness

TeraDisaster - Dreamweaver

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Spare me the epic tales of your 3x duels. My heart can't take it.

u sure he even get to 30?b:chuckle

prof

Korrok - Harshlands wrote: »

Prof vs Yulk is like the dream-team troll-off for the ages.

there's no competition in newgen talking about their pserver experiences(which sound highly minimal) as if it's the same as official pw b:shutup

Yulk_owns - Lost City

Sun_Burn - Lost City wrote: »

most pvp is in the air, slow effects don't work in the air. Nor does it work against a sin if he is stealthed and you cant see him, its aslo pointless to gush a sin if he is right next to you already, which is 80% of the time even if you distance shrink away. (shadow teleport)

And duels=/= pvp, duels take no skill at all, whoever hits 1st wins with a stunlock pretty much.

bm's only have to run up to a mob and normal hit a mob without doing anything, I'd say that's much easier than having to cast slow skills, running around and kiting.

And I like my class, im not complaining, just cant resist proving yulk wrong time and time again.

I heard of this before, "90% of PVP is in air" and I am well aware of slow effects not working in air, I was doing quests in air and noticed that? Not only that slow effects do not work in air, but also speed enhancement buffs too? There is force of will and you can immobilize still no? Not only that, I already know the tricks of catching kiters or kiting my opponents too in air.

Doesn't "PVP" mean the same thing from what I just underlined? Stuns get nerfed in "PVP" or something? Big whoop, charms getting burned because someone gets stun locked.

That is what BMs are for, but what about 60+ mobs that do magic? My friend that plays BM complains about the magic mobs. I know as a BM, I don't have to do anything but auto attack UNLESS if a magic mob attacks me, I have to kill or stun that fast so I won't die. As far as running around and gushing, takes some mana, you don't have to worry about anything hitting you at all if you just hit and run.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Wow, this is fun. But instead of trolling you (your reputation preceeds you, quite obviously), I'll just tell you where you are wrong:
I actually never see any wizard qq'ing, incidentally. The ones that qq wouldn't make it to end game.

Which is why a lot re-rolled to psy or assassin thinking they will do any better?

That does not mean that wizards don't give an assessment of the class, including its weaknesses.

Every class have a weakness, not just wizards

To me, that's not qq'ing. If it is to you - I can't help you.

What am I QQing about? arcane robes stinking? most of the time? I avoid getting hit, even a skilled player can get one shot by a physical boss his LVL if his robe is lacking p.def

+1 to wth is a support wizard. Support with your in demand party buffs, I suppose.
Query - Is your support wizard 3x as well? b:surrender

5x wiz with all skills maxed, and I mainly use morning dew in squad and slow/immobilize/silence solo. I would make a support Psy too if I am bored b:chuckle

We are supposed to hit harder than all, not harder than most. The fact that everyone and their mother can 1-shot people now is part of why wizards aren't really that important to the game - at all.

You said you were not QQing, what is this?

It sounds like we don't need to adapt to anything even assuming your the only one that thought of glacial spike (you think that, don't you?) - sounds like the bms do - moderator, please move to the BM forums. Thank you.
And as soon as I find a spear BM, I'll be sure to mention this to them. b:chuckle

You need to see forum posts about people whining about wizards having no amp, "ghetto heals", slow, etc

Not holding my breath though.




We do have among the lowest defense because we have very low pdef (not withstanding prof's private server stats, some of us play the real game) and low hp (per refine and per point of vitality) and considering the pvp threat posed by archers in TW and sins in 1 vs 1, that is the only type of defense that people are generally talking about with wizards.

You are 100% wrong. Before LVL20, clerics have the lowest defense due to lack of p.def bonuses at all, even though LVLs are skipped by. But, not every caster is using arcane robes, where archers do NOT get any defensive skills, they don't have earth shield. You don't use earth shield? But beyond 40, archers / sins have the lowest, but archers have the least survivability.

This is the best. On the one hand, you tell us to basically build the wizard correctly so that we have good defense (pdef ornaments, presumably cape) - on the other hand you think we should build channeling.

I preferably use protection necklaces before 60 then actually bother with channeling after 60, -chan is rare for below 60, another reason why you say wizards have the lowest defense. Channeling is not a build either, its an add-on. You can get 3 stacks of -chan on OHT magic rings or sleeves. While having rank top with -chan and TT99 bonus. You will only miss like 12% channeling from ornaments? You can back that up with other equips you know. I am not going to tell you how to build a wiz. You have your own choices, just like mine.

Here's a tip for your "support" wizard: you can't do both.
Or are you going to forego rank 8 for the sensoid? Shard it with savant stones?

Who knows, I might or might not b:chuckle


Spare me the epic tales of your 5x duels. My heart can't take it.

My wiz is 53, not 3x b:avoid

Galox - Heavens Tear

Wait Wait Wait a Second..

Not saying Wiz are bad, I love Wiz, and honestly think that they can be horribly overpowered in certain situations if played right..

But, How can you state a Wizzies good points WITHOUT BIDS/BT/MS/Sutra/S. Whisper/Undine?

Kinda Messed Up..

~Galox

Zhadi - Archosaur

Yulk_owns - Lost City wrote: »

I heard of this before, "90% of PVP is in air" and I am well aware of slow effects not working in air, I was doing quests in air and noticed that? Not only that slow effects do not work in air, but also speed enhancement buffs too?

This is obviously a lie.
"Slow" works in the air for PvE.

TeraDisaster - Dreamweaver

Zhadi - Archosaur wrote: »

This is obviously a lie.
"Slow" works in the air for PvE.

+1 to this


AND LOL, 53 lvl wizard means he have never used any of lvl 59 skills or 79 skills so he is one of those players who fail hard and don't get it

btw you can use sutra+homeportal if in right place to confuse anybody by teleing behind their back(to the range of your attacks) its quite funny and duel doesn't end unless you do it in wilds

Yulk_owns - Lost City

TeraDisaster - Dreamweaver wrote: »

+1 to this


AND LOL, 53 lvl wizard means he have never used any of lvl 59 skills or 79 skills so he is one of those players who fail hard and don't get it

btw you can use sutra+homeportal if in right place to confuse anybody by teleing behind their back(to the range of your attacks) its quite funny and duel doesn't end unless you do it in wilds

I never had a wiz (or tideborn) above 59. Just other classes. I have force of will too and that works b:shutup b:bye

prof

you have? I was sure none of your characters made it passed 58. if they have, feel free to post visual evidence that they have.

MageFizban - Lost City

yulk vs prof + bloodmystic.

forumgasm

Shalandra_ - Sanctuary

I just don't read the QQ posts. There's certain wizards here who's posts I also skip.