Cape Debate

Kalmahri - Sanctuary
Kalmahri - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
edited February 2011 in Barbarian
Ok i would like to get opinions On what cape to use...I am a lvl 97 Sage barb with 18.1k hp in tiger form buffed as of now i still use The TauronChieftain cape 4 sock+3 with immac citrines however i have recently been considering The lvl96 elite leather and first off keep in mind if i do change it will be to a 4 socket version so from what i can see i lose nothing except the 250 mdef and gain quite a bit more..i figure i could make up the magicdef elsewhere i guess im just looking for opinions between the 2 capes and what you would do so any feedback is appreciated thanks
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Cape of Tauran Chieftain is a nice cape covering for a barbs low magic defense whereas Cape of Elite Leather tends to be favored by arcane classes as a way to cover for their low pdef. I personally would stick with Cape of Tauran Chieftain until I could replace it with one of two cape:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/18429 Wings of Cloudcharger. Always 4 socket and G13 for better refines.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/21419 Energetic Robe: Lunar Glade. -int add on it makes it popular for anyone planning on aps. Not really worth it otherwise.
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  • Kalmahri - Sanctuary
    Kalmahri - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    yes i had planned to get one of those capes eventually..ill focus more at that beyond lvl100 but so far i believe stick with taruonChieftain is winning to about 3-2and im leaning that way myself and probably will for now..thx for the imput
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I personally had a cape of tauren chieftan that I crafted myself with 4 sockets and placed what i could afford at the time into them - 4 flawless citrines, and eventually refined it to +4.

    I just swapped to a cape of elite leather that i bought with 2 sockets, refined +2 (paid 3 mil for it). My hp loss buffed and in tiger form was only about 100 when donning the new cape (future refines will make that up easily), but I gained overall 3% more pdef (1% from the pdef stat, and the additional +2% physical damage reduced). To make up for the loss in m.def I placed temporary immaculate sapphire shards in the sockets, so when buffed the m.def difference is about a 1% loss only (for me at any rate).

    I personally feel this was an acceptable transition considering the fact that while tanking (if I happen to be in a squad that still requires me to do so) the majority of the hits I take will be physical, and magic attacks can be canceled. Increased pdef also adds to survivability against fist machines.

    a difference in 1% mdef IMO doesn't make much difference when a wizard can essentially one hit you at range either way b:surrender

    in the future I'll be working towards sharding more with sapphire gems and jade of steady defense
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  • DangerField - Dreamweaver
    DangerField - Dreamweaver Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    @baalbak
    2% physical damage reduced is not the same as 2% more pdef. They dont stack together like that.

    FX: If your current pdef gives you a 70% reduction then the 2% physical damage reduced is 30% x 0.02 = 0.6%
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Use the cape of tauran chieftain until you can afford an event cape, good ones to aim for are the ones with, +1% crit, +100(150?) HP, +Mdef and wings of cloudcharger.
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  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    @baalbak
    2% physical damage reduced is not the same as 2% more pdef. They dont stack together like that.

    FX: If your current pdef gives you a 70% reduction then the 2% physical damage reduced is 30% x 0.02 = 0.6%

    are you sure about that?

    because I've tested in duels with someone punching (no weapon equipped) me with different gear combinations and for example having a straight 72% pdef resulted in X amount of damage

    having 71% pdef + 1% physical damage reduced resulted in X amount of damage

    and having 71% only resulted in Y amount of damage.

    If what you're saying is completely accurate, I would have seen different amounts of damage for all three tests or perhaps tests 2 and 3 would have yielded the same results with test 1 being different.
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  • Sazzora - Harshlands
    Sazzora - Harshlands Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Should work like that: damage

    Maybe you unequipped some items which gave vit/str/pdef too? Since decimals doesn't show in character window for your resistance and 71% could be anyware in 71%-71.999... range.
  • RoidAbuse - Sanctuary
    RoidAbuse - Sanctuary Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Stick with Tauran until you can find another cape with magic defense.. which sadly only leaves you with Nirvana cape. I'm still using Tauran. b:pleased

    Besides, physical dmg doesn't do much to barbs anyway. It's the magical damage you should be worrying about.
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  • Templar - Sanctuary
    Templar - Sanctuary Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Use Tauren for bonus mag def, if u can afford i would recommend wings of cloudcharger
    i am using that one, some may say it doesn't have stats for what barbs need but i like what it has, it comes 4 socketed so u can transform it in what ever you need , my cape has 50 vit in and thats giving mag def alone and lots of hp, i like speed mod on for f running in TW :) phy def/ and 3% dmg red nothing much for barb but still i like high stats :) also it has best evasion stat so i would recommend it coz i notised it droped in price due to popularitu of lunar capes and more clawbarians . Well unless you whana become clawbarian then u need lunar cape.

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  • SteelStar - Heavens Tear
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Could always farm out a OHT Cape.... b:victory
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  • TankedBeast - Lost City
    TankedBeast - Lost City Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I went with the Elite Leather cape. I tried farming the OHT cape, and out of the 10 times i made it, only one was even remotely decent. Though, your current cape is also a good choice.
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