Re: Important Note To PW - READ CAREFULLY.. Zen, Game Currency, AH and Other Issues

Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
edited February 2011 in Suggestion Box
Dear Perfect World International Management:

I just joined perfect world and I like the game but you need serious improvements.

One would think Perfect World can at least make this whole gold, silver, zen and coin trading within the game, and converting SIMPLE for players - BUT NO! They had to make it complicated so people keep spending and losing real money cause they made it that way!

FREE GAME? Please, it's far from "Free!" This game is costing alot more than 3 online paid games combined! PW, You made the Auction house complicated and NON-user friendly. You can't compare your own items without the disorganized layout you see when opening the AH window. And seriously add a better search to AH and clean up the complex bugs.

PW, I just see things for what they are! It's a Great FREE game that will cost you plenty in the long run! Brilliant marketing! I love the game, don't get me wrong and I don't mind spending money on Zen but make the CURRENCY EASIER FOR PLAYERS TO USE AND CONVERT INTO COIN and vice versa. The SAME FOR THE AUCTION HOUSE! MAKE IT BETTER. You will see how much more players PW will get if they improve on these two issues! The currency and Auction house!

My point is if PW is making money on the Zen why not make it simple for players to use the game currency at least since we are BUYING THE ZEN IN THE FIRST PLACE! And again! Improve this buggy and non-user friendly auction house!

Here is a list of suggested improvements that can help PW alot if they actually do it:

1) Make Zen currency easy to convert and use since you charge players anyway!
As for conversions of Zen, gold, silver and coin - it should not be so complicated for any player since we are paying for it. And what I mean by that is instead of having a currency gaming system like the one PW has now - PW should remove this gold trade for coin altogether and just make it simple for all players to convert their gold, silver and coin back and forth as they need. Heck, even for a convert fee I wouldn't mind. But the way it is now PW is allowing players to create underpricing and overpricing on all ends and they should remove this feature when it comes to Zen we PAY FOR with real money.

2) Improve your Auction House - big time! Make it more user-friendly

3) Make it easier for players to expand their space slots - some players may not know why they cannot upgrade their slots if they have quests from the banker - very confusing!
What I mean is: As for the inventory expansion - when you buy a stone for example like I did to expand my space I didnt know till support emailed me that i have to get rid of all my expansion space quests to get my Inv Expansion to work. It can be confusing to any new player that does not know.

4) Stop charging players to chat to the World in game - that is just wrong! Pw Should consider changes:
On the feature of World Chat - that is NOT a privilege and most certainly not fair if you have to pay 10 silver to post ONE world chat to all players that is very short and if youre looking to get help or info from other players etc. You are limited by the short text you can send only once! If they at least make it a 10 minute World chat for 10 silver I would say fair enough, but for 10 silver and only being able to send a short message is plain wrong and a total rip off to all players. Sorry my opinion.

5) Create an AutoRun feature for characters intead of having to hold your finger constantly on the key to run - the only autorun you have is when using map or selecting something.

6) Make your Boutique item prices more reasonable for players - it's real money and remember you have kids playing that don't have access to that kind of money all the time. As for the Boutigue and the silly over priced items - they should lower them because again in the long run it will be better for PW if they did. If PW does NOT improve on many of these things, in time many players will simply realize it is not worth playing this game or any other with the same game mechanics. This is where alot of MMORPG's fail when they dont hear what their paying playing customers are saying.

7) You will attract more players if you act on these well rounded recommendations to improve Perfect World for all players and gain loyalty amongst existing players.


Other than the list I mentioned above, you have a pretty solid MMORPG and eventually you can expand and start competing with the more popular online games if you truly improve on the list of 7 issues I mentioned above. I am sure there are more but overall this short list of suggested improvements that are needed can be very good for PW if they are implemented and actually done.

Either way, I wish you well and so far I'm enjoying PW. Ps You can do better than this... This is like a copy of Wow, Guild Wars and Aionn put together in different ways.. DO BETTER AND BE BETTER! BE TRULY CREATIVE AND GIVE THE ONLINE GAMING WORLD OF PLAYERS SOMETHING NEW and UNIQUE! Don't get lazy - do better!

PLEASE NOTE: These are my comments and suggestions for Perfect World International. It is NOT intended to be rude or offensive, just stating the facts and hope PW makes real improvements because I actually like the game. Otherwise I would not waste my time making these comments and suggestions in the first place.


Thank you!

These are my comments and suggestions to Perfect World International!

Good day all!
Jon
New York, NY USA
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  • Fuzzballs - Heavens Tear
    Fuzzballs - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    *yawn* nobody at PWE listens, they don't care
  • seriouslypeople
    seriouslypeople Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I laughed.
  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Hi,I see that you're new here. Welcome to Perfect World International , one of the most Free2Play/Pay2Win mmos out there.Before you bother making more threads or posts like this one please know that none of them will be listened to/

    Enjoy your stay. b:cute


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  • Amencat - Sanctuary
    Amencat - Sanctuary Posts: 484 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    wall of QQ b:chuckle

    that proves that you are REALLY NEW newby lol,

    1. wrong section, write that in the suggestion forum or waste your time in sending a ticket ROFL (IF they will even read it i will eat my broom)

    2. reasonable prices will never happen, the pwi stuff created the game just ripp off people never help them for real, abuse children to pay insane amount of real money for stuff they wont even own, couse they account can be deleted every time without reason

    3. the economy will turn out even worse and worse, wait until the new expansion will come out, the prices will explode

    4. if you want to improve ah make detailed suggestions you want, but still propably NOTHING will ever happen, read the patch notes of the last year: localization changes ROFL

    5. every single thing created in this game even world chat is toward to cashhoppers, the priviledge people who pay real money and those who dont have to suffer with everything

    my suggestion for you is: run as fast as you can while you didnt regret spending time and money
    Some Rules each PWI Gamer should know
    1. Dont break this rules & no matter what: DONT TRUST ANYONE!
    2. Dont pay wine or heads fee (like to get kicked after that?) b:chuckle
    3. Dont borrow items (since when return gms scammed stuff?) b:embarrass
    4. Dont use your password in faction-forums (like hacks?) b:fatb
    5. Dont give your mats to the tt-banker (obvious, not?) b:beg
    6. Dont wait for help, or heals, or any other miracles,... (for more examples just play pwi and you will hate the whole humanity) b:bye
  • LovesTragedy - Lost City
    LovesTragedy - Lost City Posts: 474 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I laughed.

    ^ this


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  • Samaela - Dreamweaver
    Samaela - Dreamweaver Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    5) Create an AutoRun feature for characters intead of having to hold your finger constantly on the key to run - the only autorun you have is when using map or selecting something.

    Eh, sorry if I misunderstood your point here, but autorun is in the game. Take your mouse, left click a random place on the ground and voila, you're there. b:surrender

    Other than that, nothing new in what you say. Old news is old, just about 100+ threads saying exactly the same.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited February 2011


    1) Make Zen currency easy to convert and use since you charge players anyway!


    It is simple and they include an in game guide. Charge the zhen, transfer it from your wallet to the game and server of your choice. Log into you game. Now you can use your zhen. Want to turn it into coins? Go to the gold trader, and either buy it at the lowest sell price or sell it at the highest buy price. Withdraw your gold/coin. Enjoy.


    2) Improve your Auction House - big time! Make it more user-friendly


    Could be a little bit better search wise, I agree. However you can comparison shop items. All you do is hit the "ADD FAVORITE" button in the top right corner. Click on items that you want to buy and add them to favorites. When you are done looking at multiple items of the same type, click the favorites button. You can compare only what you liked and without looking at everything at once in an unfiltered setting. Also if you know the item category, you can filter most items into categories. An admittedly not perfect system but simple once you get the hang of it.


    3) Make it easier for players to expand their space slots - some players may not know why they cannot upgrade their slots if they have quests from the banker - very confusing!


    It is the exact same as turning in any other quest, you learn how to find items at level 5. Before level 5 you don't need more space in your bank. I don't see what is so confusing about find this, bring it to me, end quest.


    4) Stop charging players to chat to the World in game - that is just wrong!


    I used to think that too. Then I realized that 10k is not a lot of coin to make if you need help with a boss or something else legitimate. If you want to spam, waste time, etc than you would need more than a few. Since your chat appears in EVERYONE'S chat screen, than that should be a privilege you should have to pay for. If you want to make some friends, join a faction/quest with people/fight bosses together/shoot the breeze in general chat that is free and restricted to town. After all there should be some advantages as you level and access to coins become easier besides better gear. Because even though your gear is better, the mobs are much harder.


    5) Create an AutoRun feature for characters intead of having to hold your finger constantly on the key to run - the only autorun you have is when using map or selecting something.


    If you click the mini map, and you can zoom out on it too btw, then you can autorun to a random spot of your choosing. You can also click really far into the distance and your character will run to where you clicked. You can also click the green name for quests and autorun to them without the use of the map, no matter the distance from you. You can autorun short distances (clicking), medium distances (zoomed out minimap), and long distances (real map). You can autorun to the target of a quest, and the quest giver, and the quest rewarder. You acn use the coordinate assistant to autorun to most npcs in any given town. How much more autorun do you need man!


    6) Make your Boutique item prices more reasonable for players - it's real money and remember you have kids playing that don't have access to that kind of money all the time.


    The boutique is like a convenience store. If you want it NOW and don't want to hassle with the auction house, its there. But for the most part you can find the boutique items in catshops and in the auction house for far cheaper. The game lets people do that. They let the players set the economy. You don't need anything from the boutique until later levels if at all anyway.

    added later: Kind of sick of everyone blasting pwi for ah item prices. You set the economy, not the devs in china and not the mods here. Don't believe me. Compare the gold prices now, to the original rep sale when gold shot up to almost a million coin each and people were willing to pay 10k each for rep. Now that most of the "I MUST HAVE IT NOW!" incredibly rich people have their rank 9, the rep packs and gold prices are more reasonable. People refused to buy the gold at almost 1 million coins, though if you were there when the rep sale first started you would know they certainly tried within those first few hours, and the gold prices remained mostly the same. Now you can get rep for 7.4k here in DreamWeaver. If the buyers collectively stand on principle and refuse to pay exorbitant prices, then the sellers cannot get away with gouging. By the way, 7.4k is actually cheaper than buy rep badges at 45 silver, which btw means you can get a rep badge for less than a penny. IJS.



    7) You will attract more players if you act on these well rounded recommendations to
    improve Perfect World for all players and gain loyalty amongst existing players.



    You will find that many of your complaints could be solved by reading the guides. There is a lot to complain about in this game, but most of this isn't one of those things.

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  • Shulkie - Dreamweaver
    Shulkie - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,529 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I don't see many other people having issues with getting coin from the AH/Gold Trading.

    Don't think the conversion could be much simpler...


    $1 (USD) = 100 Zen (website points - irrespective of whichever pwe game you play - PWI, ESO, JD,BOI, HOTK, LOMA and FW when it finally hits open beta)

    You transfer zen to PW server (or other game - but zen is worth different things in different games)

    In PWI -

    100 zen = 1 Gold (in game boutique currency - you can now either buy items to sell OR sell your gold directly in Gold Trading)

    1 Gold = Approx 800,000+ in game coins, depending on server, current sales etc. This final conversion is no different from real life currency trading - the sell and buy price are different, and is really market driven.

    So if you charge $10 minimum, you will get 8,000,000 (less fees)

    .. i dont think they can make it any plainer, other than simply letting you buy coin directly from the website. however then everyone would QQ about pwe price fixing. At the moment the players (sellers and buyers) set the gold price based on expectation of boutique sales, events, needs and desires.
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  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I didn't think Perfect World players that actually play are so negative and close minded to say the least.

    I will be writing directly to PW International Management and their CEO and see if they feel the same way. Perhaps going the extra step may or may not make a difference but I don't mind and have nothing to lose.

    Suggestions and comments are always helpful and that is why gaming companies have them to improve on things. Some gaming companies take longer than others but eventually they will address the issues or not. In the end it will be on the gaming company if they ignore players and leave matters un-fixed. That is why many MMORPG's out there fail when they don't act on improving their games. I hope PW imrpoves for their own sake and benefit.

    Ps And many of you should try to be more positive - being negative never helps no one.

    Cheers!
  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Oh look another suggestion thread, the devs don`t give a flying rat`s *** what players think, as long as people keep spending money nothing will get fixed or improved, full stop!b:bye
  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Thank you for the reply Venus. It was helpful but I think you misunderstood some of my points.

    The autorun works in a way that you select a location or npc or item etc and you autorun that I know was simply stating as a minor improvement they should just make a key for it.
    Its only a suggestion.

    As for the inventory expansion - when you buy a stone for example like I did to expand my space I didnt know till support emailed me that i have to get rid of all my expansion space quests to get my Inv Expansion to work. It can be confusing to any new player that does not know.

    Also, the pricing in the AH is an economy the players create no doubt or confusion there. This I know and I am not blaming PW for that. I just think their AH can be more user friendly. Simple.

    As for conversions of zen, gold, silver and coin - it should not be so complicated for any player since we are paying for it. And what I mean by that is instead of having a currency gaming system like the one PW has now - PW should remove this gold trade for coin altogether and just make it simple for all players to convert their gold, silver and coin back and forth as they need, and heck even for a convert fee I wouldn't mind. But the way it is now PW is allowing players to create underpricing and overpricing on all ends and they should remove this feature when it comes to Zen we PAY FOR with real money.

    On the feature of World Chat - that is NOT a privilege and most certainly not fair if you have to pay 10 silver to post ONE world chat to all players that is very short and if youre looking to get help or info from other players etc. You are limited by the short text you can send only once! If they at least make it a 10 minute World chat for 10 silver I would say fair enough, but for 10 silver and only being able to send a short message is plain wrong and a total rip off to all players. Sorry my opinion.

    As for the Boutigue and the silly over priced items - they should lower them because again in the long run it will be better for PW if they did. If PW does NOT improve on many of these things, in time many players will simply realize it is not worth playing this game or any other with the same game mechanics. And this is where alot of MMORPG's fail when they dont hear what their paying playing customers are saying.

    Either way, thank you for your reply and comments - I do appreciate it VenusArmani.
    Have a great day and cheers!

    :-)
  • Shulkie - Dreamweaver
    Shulkie - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,529 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I didn't think Perfect World players that actually play are so negative and close minded to say the least.

    I will be writing directly to PW International Management and their CEO and see if they feel the same way. Perhaps going the extra step may or may not make a difference but I don't mind and have nothing to lose.

    Suggestions and comments are always helpful and that is why gaming companies have them to improve on things. Some gaming companies take longer than others but eventually they will address the issues or not. In the end it will be on the gaming company if they ignore players and leave matters un-fixed. That is why many MMORPG's out there fail when they don't act on improving their games. I hope PW imrpoves for their own sake and benefit.

    Ps And many of you should try to be more positive - being negative never helps no one.

    Cheers!

    bolded should be "never helps anyone" (yours is a double negative)

    Plus I hope your chinese is better than your english - and that postage to Bejing is going to be a <proper term for female dog>b:surrender
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  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I lol at the OP.

    Too much things to say,too unstable to type.
  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    DEAR Shulkie,

    First of all, I am not Chinese. I am American and regardless of whether I am either one we are all Human so spare me the stupid race comments.

    Sorry You don't like my comments and suggestions - simply ignore and move on!

    You sound like a moron anyway. Perhaps if you made a constructive comment that would be good but too bad - your brain is not all there.
  • Obly - Dreamweaver
    Obly - Dreamweaver Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    [COLOR="Orange"Bla bla, bla die bla[/COLOR]

    Here is a list of suggested improvements that can help PW alot if they actually do it:

    1) Make Zen currency easy to convert and use since you charge players anyway! Gold Sale?
    2) Improve your Auction House - big time! Make it more user-friendly Meh, agreed there is room for alot of improvement
    3) Make it easier for players to expand their space slots - some players may not know why they cannot upgrade their slots if they have quests from the banker - very confusing!Agreed
    4) Stop charging players to chat to the World in game - that is just wrong! Havent played a F2P MMO that hasn;t done this, World Chat, Global Chat whatever, 90% of the F2P MMO's you will require Item Shop items 2 utilize this feature of the game
    5) Create an AutoRun feature for characters intead of having to hold your finger constantly on the key to run - the only autorun you have is when using map or selecting something. Euhm, this is already in place, press Q for quest, click on the green things like NPC name, Mob name, and your character will head over 2 the area automatically
    6) Make your Boutique item prices more reasonable for players - it's real money and remember you have kids playing that don't have access to that kind of money all the time. Its called strategy pricing, and they don;t care about the kids, they are only interested in the players that actually have money to spend on a monthly basis, their a company remeber.
    7) You will attract more players if you act on these well rounded recommendations to improve Perfect World for all players and gain loyalty amongst existing players. I wouldn;t be that confident if i where you.


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  • Shulkie - Dreamweaver
    Shulkie - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,529 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    lol i see you lack the intellect to undestand when someone is actually providing you facts as you seem to live in a dream world.

    this game is owned by a chinese company, all changes are directed by said chinese company. developers are chinese. you want change you talk to them in china - which is easier if you talk chinese.

    where are the stupid race comments? grow up and get out. play the game for more than a couple of weeks and read the forum before you come making stupid suggestions. mkay.

    peace out.


    oh and according to PW they have 50 million users world wide (I presume they mean activated accounts in all versions but hey that is still a helluva lot of players). I don't think they will particularly miss your pocket money/allowance from your parents.
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  • LovesTragedy - Lost City
    LovesTragedy - Lost City Posts: 474 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    As far as i see it, this is a "if you dont like it, stop playing" situation. The things that you are "suggesting" are things that not only have been cemented since the game started, but are some of the things that make the game what it is. Removing the player's control over the economy isnt a good idea when the company is as money hungry as PWE is.

    Nothing in this thread will be listened to. PWE doesnt care, simple as that. And major LOL @ writing a message to the management and CEO. I'm sure they need something else to laugh at.

    I dont want to be too rude considering you are new, but you will learn that PWI is basically "as is" quality. We have no say in what gets fixed, what gets changed. Our suggestions are never listened to, and the GMs rarely respond to anything anymore unless its related to money. It's something you are either going to have to get used to, or go somewhere else. And the reason people are so negative, is that we have seen this thread 1000 times before. And still, nothing changes. Nothing will. Better just get used to it.
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  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Hey OP did you hear about the assassin that hit the level cap (105) before everyone else and didn't spend a single real life dollar doing it? True story.

    IMO the auction house is just complicated enough to keep uber noobs out.. on purpose. See you don't really need to use it at first. You run by it when you're level 5 maybe and stop and look and say whoah that's a lot of stuff in there... Then you run off to do some quests and level up. There isn't much nice gear around that level, and you don't need it. Some fashion can't be equipped at the lowest levels, the same goes for mounts and other fancy stuff. Again you're not high enough level to use most of that stuff. And you level so fast it's kinda pointless to buy it anyways.

    Then you hit 30-40 and say Ahh this is a cool game, I'm going to reward myself with a little zen or whatever. At that point you'll figure out how to use auction house. They've already sucked you in with the game at that point. It's very clever.

    Yes tons of things could use improvement, not debating that... but as others have said nothing you suggested will change. Nothing in PW is sacred. Changes only happen when the change is profitable to the company, and that's 100% fact.

    If you want a free game you should learn to merchant before you do anything else. Study the market and figure out how to play it. Then you can have a fast free ride to 100.
  • NonameWiz - Sanctuary
    NonameWiz - Sanctuary Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Rank 8 Wizard: 1% farm b:shutup
  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I thank many of you for the replies and feedback. Except you Shulkie - you are serious pathetic and stupid.

    As for my comments and suggestions, that is pretty much what they are nothing more and nothing less. I am not here to insult anyone or put PW down. I actually like the game and I did in fact hear about the player that didnt spend a dime to get to where he is in the game. I wonder about that though. May just be a good PR move for PW, but thats not why I made my comments and suggestions.

    I made them because I believe PW can be better. It's that simple. I guess some misunderstand and others add their feedback and are helpful. I appreciate the feedback and again I like the game but it can be better.

    Nothing in life is "Perfect" but we can try to improve where we know we can and my suggestions would help PW if they acted on them. If they dont its their choice.

    Thanks for taking the time. Cheers to all! :))
  • Shulkie - Dreamweaver
    Shulkie - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,529 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    you may have not come to insult but that is just what you did. just because people don't agree with you. i gave you facts you gave me insults. you have no right to claim the high ground.

    as I said grow up and stop relying on insults when you fail to explain your point in such a way as to evoke any empathy.

    As others noted we have all been here before, heard the comments from people who have just started but don't yet understand the reasonings behind why things are the way they are. and more importantly why despite the efforts of far more eloquent people in the past - nothing much changes. Maybe you caught me on a bad morning, and another day I may have been less direct. But nowhere did I insult or belittle you and all of a sudden you resorted to name calling. It seems to be that you shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
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  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I thank many of you for the replies and feedback. Except you Shulkie - you are serious pathetic and stupid.

    As for my comments and suggestions, that is pretty much what they are nothing more and nothing less. I am not here to insult anyone or put PW down. I actually like the game and I did in fact hear about the player that didnt spend a dime to get to where he is in the game. I wonder about that though. May just be a good PR move for PW, but thats not why I made my comments and suggestions.

    I made them because I believe PW can be better. It's that simple. I guess some misunderstand and others add their feedback and are helpful. I appreciate the feedback and again I like the game but it can be better.

    Nothing in life is "Perfect" but we can try to improve where we know we can and my suggestions would help PW if they acted on them. If they dont its their choice.

    Thanks for taking the time. Cheers to all! :))
    Don't mean to be nit picky or anything, but meh it may indeed be a good pr move, to try to get people to not... hate/say that this game is all pay to win. In my opinion it failed on that point because seriously leveling is cake walk (if you know what your doing) compared to getting enough money to get better end game gear, or just spending a ridiculous amount of time farming days on in, before you get better gear.

    Either way, good luck getting these comments heard, it has not been an easy task for any of our 'veteran' players. (some even tried writing a letter in chinese... if my memory serves me right, but obviously to no avail.)

    I am sure if you stick around; jon, you'll find PWI, is no different from any other mmorpg out there, some people will be real asses with the way they behave, whereas others will be as kind as possible, and such is the way with the real world.

    Every game has their... little quirks so to speak, we all have to learn to either live with them, complain and hope we get heard/something gets changed, or simply get fed up with it, and move on.

    P.S Welcome to PWI, hope you enjoy your stay.

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  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Oh geez.. Shulkie. I am replying to your negative comments in kind. Not here to be insulting at all - but i'm not here to have you be rude and offensive either, sorry.

    I am sure similar comments have been made and so what? I am making my own and if you dont agree no problem. Have a nice day!
  • Finrah - Sanctuary
    Finrah - Sanctuary Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    True that PWI needs improvement.. but not really on the things you mentioned that'll make a huge difference such as auto pathing and AH fixing and gold trading and bank expanding... (wait is that all of it? lol)

    I felt through everything on my own at 16 (I'm almost 20 now) when I started this game.... I never had a problem with anything but the economy going up that can't be prevented or fixed, so... I'd say adapt to the environment and change yourself rather than trying to change others.. because...its way harder to change others xP

    Just remember that no one is going to be happy about everything. IF the changes took place, there are still going to be people who would dislike the change. You cannot please everyone.

    I'm hating how CS dependent and related PWI is getting to be, and I'm also the same with you Jon, hoping for it to be better place. There's always hope and I won't stop hoping for that. But it IS quite true that PWE doesn't do much or can do much about it.. more like now I'm trying to adapt to the 'newer' PWI and suck it in..

    Bare with it buddy b:surrender
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  • Mraochan - Lost City
    Mraochan - Lost City Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Actually Shulkie is pretty funny this morning b:chuckle

    But yeah Jon, we've all been where you are. We're just trying to save you the time and hassle of being disillusioned. I guess we all play this game for different reasons. I have ragequit twice over changes made to the game, but I came back for my friends. I used to cash shop a lot, now I play for free. It took me awhile to see how easy it is to make money in the game, you only need a little patience. There are guides in the forums here on how to make money and for the most part they're accurate.

    The sin that got 105 is a master merchant. If you don't master merchanting in this game you can expect to pay for everything past a certain point (I'd say level 40) if you want to be even close to competitive.
  • Shulkie - Dreamweaver
    Shulkie - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,529 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Oh geez.. Shulkie. I am replying to your negative comments in kind. Not here to be insulting at all - but i'm not here to have you be rude and offensive either, sorry.

    I am sure similar comments have been made and so what? I am making my own and if you dont agree no problem. Have a nice day!

    see there is where you went wrong. you did not reply in kind. you made it personal and offensive.

    my only slightly negative comment was that you would have to write in chinese (and reading back I may have indicated your english needs work - which it does but sorry for the comment) to get anything done really in PW. The devs in china do seem to listen to their chinese customers. They have a much larger player base these and the customer does have some power.

    I think if you check back my posts I am generally fair with people, however I am not one for sugar coating things. If someone has messed up i will tell them. But I also help folks. It is just hard to help folks when they don't even bother searching the forums to see how many times people have tried to change things in the past.

    with that, feel free to have the last word. I am off to work.
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  • Myrrmidonna - Dreamweaver
    Myrrmidonna - Dreamweaver Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Jonguardian
    I'm afraid you're still to new to the game to be able to tell what is a flaw and what is not, at least that's how your OP looks like to me.

    World Chat - you don't really need to use it, trust me, and for sertain you don't want to use it to get help in your newbie times. It is clttered with spam of rich kiddies, high-levels looking for end game parties, big-price sales of really rare goods and such. Most players spend most of their time on faction-chats and squad-chats, not seeing it, anywa, not wanting to see it because of all that spam on it. Your request of help would, most probably, get ignored.

    There are free means of contacting other players, though. There's a common "white" chat (only those near you would hear you - just go into some town, where there are more people around), but most people wouldn't notice it either, as it's not visible on faction or squad chats. What I would recomend you is pm-ing random people. Just click on someone, then right-click on their portrait on top of your screen and choose 'whisper'. Whispers are visible within all chats, so there's no way someone wouldn't notice it, and if you start with 'excuse me, I'm new, could you tell me how ...' I'm sure more often than less you'll get not only answers to your questions, but also all the assistance you may need. Just remember - if you get no answer don't repeat yourself over and over - just go ask another person.

    Also, WC talk is priced for a reason - it is visible in the whole game. If everybody could post on it without any restriction, with the amount of players that play PW at once, just imagine how much babbly spam it would become, with meaningles babbling scrolling up faster than you could even read it. This would really make it cease to serve any other purpose than pumping egos of some kiddies, who really feel that absolutely all people playing PW at the moment should hear that they just had dinner, it was awful, cuz mum had them eat veggies, and they were yuk, and that they will be back in 5 minutes, cuz they need to ****, and maybe poo as well, just don't cry after me, i'll tell you if I actually did when I'm back! I know you are luww meh!

    As for us being conservative, or closed-minded - no, we're not, we're just being realistic. We've been here for a while, and we know how things are dealt here. It's a sad truth - our devs can't do a thing with the game, other than upload the newest supply of patches from China into it. That's how PW is.
    Also, bear in mind that calling people closed-minded just because they don't think they way you do is a bit rude, don't you think? b:chuckle
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  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Thank you Slivaf. I appreciate the feedback. It is most welcome.

    And as for Finrah's feedback thank you as well, except I don't need to "adapt" to things I see need to improve, or that are NOT good, or worth while, that is why I am making these comments and suggestions in the first place.

    Perhaps if I was 16 I would go with the flow and adapt but i'm older and i'm a gamer and I enjoy playing as anyone else would except I believe there is always room for improvements for anything that can be better.

    Ps In this world and in reality it only takes ONE person to inspire changes for better or worse, and that is clearly a fact in the history of Humankind. Unfortunately, Humankind is still very backwards because we lack unity... Thanks again for the feedback.

    Cheers!
  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I respectfully disagree Myrrmidonna and I have no problem with others having their own opinion. I just see how some can be negative in their replies and that in itself is sad.

    Also, you missed my point on World Chat. I would not mind paying for the use if it was actually fair and worth while using. Like I said if PW charged 10 silver for 10minutes of world chat time that would be great no problem - And I think that would be more than fair considering spam, but they are grossly charging 10 silver for 1 short message in world chat. I mean that is simply wrong.

    Also, I'm not that new in the game, my main is level 20 and I got a good feel for the game so far. Oh and the resetting of your attributes - another over priced issue that makes no sense at all.

    Like I said I hope Perfect World makes improvements and I hope they consider and act on making them. That's the only reason for my comments and suggestions. I like the game but if improvements are not made, in time many players including myself will not bother with any PW Entertainment games if their game mechanics and issues are not addressed.


    Thanks for your feedback. :))
  • Jonguardian - Dreamweaver
    Jonguardian - Dreamweaver Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Thank you all for your feedback regarding Perfect World..

    Cheers!
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