The future of archosaur's tw factions

aroski
aroski Posts: 0 Arc User
edited February 2011 in Etherblade (West)
what do you guys think is gonna happen to this server? zulusive disbanded then elsuive came back but didn't get all former members. Nemesis is too overpowered which is not a good thing. I see them breaking up in a couple of months or so. Phoenix and immunity are gonna enjoy fun weekly TW's against each other. Elusive can join the fun by prolly following the good example of nix and immunity. They shud start from scratch, maybe change their level requirement to 60. And also lessen the drama a bit. Drama is fun but don't overdo it. To the smaller factions, they shud just stay where are at and enjoy their little tw's.

One exciting thing that's gonna come is the expansion. New classes and also new territories to conquer. I miss doing the PVE tw's. nix and nemesis lands are adjacent to those new lands so fun pve tw for them
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  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    hahahahha
  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    What I don't get is why so many people on this game are completely obsessed with Territory Wars.

    This server is the worst, from what I've seen. Its nothing but QQ about Territory Wars. Who cares? Play the damn game for what it is, and what it has to offer.

    You roll on a PvE server? Do PvE. You roll on PvP server? Do PvP. You are on PvE server, but want PvP? Switch on PK. Tired of PK? Turn it off. You are on PvP server and you want PvE? Camp yourself in instances. Want to log on and chat with friends? Walk around in the many safe-zones this game offers and chat your heart out.

    I think what people are lacking most of all is imagination.
  • Anthemyra - Archosaur
    Anthemyra - Archosaur Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    What I don't get is why so many people on this game are completely obsessed with Territory Wars.

    This server is the worst, from what I've seen. Its nothing but QQ about Territory Wars. Who cares? Play the damn game for what it is, and what it has to offer.

    You roll on a PvE server? Do PvE. You roll on PvP server? Do PvP. You are on PvE server, but want PvP? Switch on PK. Tired of PK? Turn it off. You are on PvP server and you want PvE? Camp yourself in instances. Want to log on and chat with friends? Walk around in the many safe-zones this game offers and chat your heart out.

    I think what people are lacking most of all is imagination.

    agree
  • Bun$ - Archosaur
    Bun$ - Archosaur Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    didnt someone make the comment that 30% of the people on this server
    are people from other servers trying to get away from the shame they brought themselves from past servers o.o
  • Anthemyra - Archosaur
    Anthemyra - Archosaur Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    didnt someone make the comment that 30% of the people on this server
    are people from other servers trying to get away from the shame they brought themselves from past servers o.o

    o.o ...
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    What I don't get is why so many people on this game are completely obsessed with Territory Wars.

    This server is the worst, from what I've seen. Its nothing but QQ about Territory Wars. Who cares? Play the damn game for what it is, and what it has to offer.

    You roll on a PvE server? Do PvE. You roll on PvP server? Do PvP. You are on PvE server, but want PvP? Switch on PK. Tired of PK? Turn it off. You are on PvP server and you want PvE? Camp yourself in instances. Want to log on and chat with friends? Walk around in the many safe-zones this game offers and chat your heart out.

    I think what people are lacking most of all is imagination.

    No, simply only thing left on this server is TW. Let`s play like we would have PvE squads and healthy PK. Who can find fun farming same instances for no end, like ability to compete in PvP? Who wouldnt rather have great massive PK event instead of open map PK? I`m rather interested in the fun part of game, instead of focusing into dull and boring parts of it. My day on PWI is pretty much logging on, setting up kittyshop, chatting with ppl if somebody on, tabbing out PWI, playing LoL, checking if anybody logged on, doing rl stuff. Doing some event when those happen, doing some instance if somebody needs help, trolling WC, trolling forums. Anything else? I doubt, I cant even bother farming anything, I`m too convinced of new PvP server to invest any more on this server.

    Ps. If somebody that I know isn`t transferring servers, I should have unbound gear/coins of value of 150m+ on me, willing to give kinda good offer for gold on new server =). But yeah, only if new server is PvP one =/.
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • Anri_Rose - Archosaur
    Anri_Rose - Archosaur Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ^ THIS
    but not to the total extent I just kidna fly do daily wq, help a bh if i can , sit on fb twitter, watch news from egypt
    GO EGYPT
    Still might roll if i see a pvp but will still play here.
    Where have all the mages gone. Long time casting.
    Who altered my siggy im
    kinda scared b:shocked
  • Martiin - Archosaur
    Martiin - Archosaur Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    didnt someone make the comment that 30% of the people on this server
    are people from other servers trying to get away from the shame they brought themselves from past servers o.o

    This is the generic message for ANYONE who has re-rolled a new server.

    O how I love angry internet children and trolls.
    (anonymous) "If pwi brings out rank sale again, I will def increase my spending limit." Marketing, learn it, master it, and after that stop complaining about it.
  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    No, simply only thing left on this server is TW. Let`s play like we would have PvE squads and healthy PK. Who can find fun farming same instances for no end, like ability to compete in PvP? Who wouldnt rather have great massive PK event instead of open map PK? I`m rather interested in the fun part of game, instead of focusing into dull and boring parts of it. My day on PWI is pretty much logging on, setting up kittyshop, chatting with ppl if somebody on, tabbing out PWI, playing LoL, checking if anybody logged on, doing rl stuff. Doing some event when those happen, doing some instance if somebody needs help, trolling WC, trolling forums. Anything else? I doubt, I cant even bother farming anything, I`m too convinced of new PvP server to invest any more on this server.

    Ps. If somebody that I know isn`t transferring servers, I should have unbound gear/coins of value of 150m+ on me, willing to give kinda good offer for gold on new server =). But yeah, only if new server is PvP one =/.

    I am not entirely sure a PvP server will be the end to all problems, really....But I wish you the best of luck, mate :)
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I am not entirely sure a PvP server will be the end to all problems, really....But I wish you the best of luck, mate :)

    Njah, it wont fix everything but helps lots to the problems I`m having with this server. This server simply got nothing to keep me even logging on `cept my friends and well, I admit I like trolling. + Trying to make some more coins in case I can make a trade from server to server =).
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    This server is the worst, from what I've seen. Its nothing but QQ about Territory Wars. Who cares?


    (:edit: warning: the following troll is to be taken lightly, consult your doctor to see if you can take it))

    brodawg i'm going to have to disagree. this server is, or... well, was the BEST because people "QQ'd" about territory wars. those QQ's resulted in good TW's that otherwise wouldn't of happened. other servers have let the powerhouse effect bore out TW because people in big crowds figure they don't matter. our server on the other hand was uniquely small for good ideas to be heard, accepted, and practiced so to avoid this rationale some say is "inevitable." its why enough people were motivated to make ELUSIVE and the whole "lets stop trying to take over the map and just cut to the chase and make things fun again" actually worked.

    basically my point is its only inevitable (like it will be now) when everybody goes into oh-this-drama-has-taken-its-toll-on-me-now-i'm-too-apathetic-to-do-anything-past-defend-what-i-want mode. granted theres been some bad drama that has probably worn people out, myself included like with others getting personal, but the rest was hardly anything to call bad or for anyone to get upset over


    anyway soon enough archo will have its rightful spot as worst, but only when the last of us who care leave and you really get what you want: "NO DRAMA." yeah, that'll go over well. heres a fun fact for you, "drama" made more of your esteemed narla members come back to this game than anything else. it wasnt the award dinners where you patted each other on your backs for being the class-acts that you thought you were, it wasn't the refined community that they wanted to feel like a number in more than a personality, and it sure as hell wasn't to hear about apples, it was because they yearned for something more, something better. deep down in places that a predictable TW pay cheque or set of mirages couldn't calm, they admitted to themselves they would've thrown it all away for the thrills of better TW's. whether people realize it or not, TW and PK has been the GREATEST uniter of our server. its funny because the same people who say they hate the drama and don't want it can't even ask themselves why it is that in times of PVP, when we all experience each other, we get along best.
    Play the damn game for what it is, and what it has to offer.

    play the game for what it is and what it has to offer? you mean like territory wars? the unconfessed reason 90% of us, even you, are here for? or was taking over the map just a side project that came to mind one day when you were leveling for no reason but to level. I mean, to level so to reach end game and farm for gear to use to farm for more gear.


    what you should have said was play our server for what its become: an overtly sensitive breeding grounds of indifferent players whose justifications as to why that is are as mundane as what they think they want; to be left alone.

    please, everybody from the carebears to the washed up cranky ex-leader who acts like a pompous **** to his old friends so to satisfy a blackhole that is the void of his unfulfillment for former self not taking over the map, want TW and would have it as often as they could. that is, of course, until it meant admitting they or their faction wasn't doing anything to realize that desire. don't pass judgement on those you think are passing judgement. what kind of retort is it as somebody who cares too little to tell people who care just enough that they care too much, like damn.

    You roll on a PvE server? Do PvE. You roll on PvP server? Do PvP. You are on PvE server, but want PvP? Switch on PK. Tired of PK? Turn it off. You are on PvP server and you want PvE? Camp yourself in instances. Want to log on and chat with friends? Walk around in the many safe-zones this game offers and chat your heart out.

    this is obviously not worth responding to
    I think what people are lacking most of all is imagination.

    oh.... so thats the problem!
  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Proski, you have issues man. Hope you get them sorted out.

    And I gotta say, if my 'friends' think I have acted pompous towards them, they have mouths to say something to me.

    That is all b:victory
  • Proski - Archosaur
    Proski - Archosaur Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    sorry we can put the skeletons back in the closet, just for you nahktool b:cute
  • StudmuffinIX - Archosaur
    StudmuffinIX - Archosaur Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    no

    this server is, or was, the BEST because people "QQ" about territory wars. other servers have let the powerhouse effect happen because people in big crowds think they don't matter. our server was uniquely small for good ideas to be heard, accepted, and PRACTICED so to avoid this rationale some say is "inevitable." -hence ELUSIVE

    its only inevitable when everybody else goes into oh-this-drama-has-taken-its-toll-on-me-now-i'm-too-apathetic-to-do-anything-past-defend-what-i-want mode. soon enough it'll have its rightful spot as worst, but only when the last of us who care leave and you really get what you want: "NO DRAMA." yeah, that'll go over well. heres a fun fact for you, "drama" made more of your esteemed narla members come back to this game than anything else. it wasnt the award dinners where you patted each other on your backs for being the class-acts that you thought you were, it wasn't the refined community that they wanted to feel like a number in more than a personality, and it sure as hell wasn't to hear about apples, it was because they yearned for something more, something better. deep down in places that a predictable TW pay cheque or set of mirages couldn't calm, they admitted to themselves they would've thrown it all away for the thrills of
    better TW's. whether people realize it or not, TW and PK has been the GREATEST uniter of our server. its funny because the same people who say they hate the drama and don't want it can't even ask themselves why it is that in times of PVP, when we all experience each other, we get along best.


    play the game for what it is and what it has to offer? you mean like territory wars? the unconfessed reason 90% of us, even you, are here for? or was taking over the map just a side project that came to mind one day when you were leveling for no reason but to level. I mean, to level so to reach end game and farm for gear to use to farm for more gear.


    what you should have said was play our server for what its become: an overtly sensitive
    breeding grounds of indifferent players whose justifications as to why that is are as mundane as what they think they want; to be left alone.

    please, everybody from the carebears to the washed up cranky ex-leader who acts like a pompous **** to his old friends so to satisfy a blackhole that is the void of his unfulfillment for former self not taking over the map, want TW and would have it as often as they could. that is, of course, until it meant admitting they or their faction wasn't doing anything to realize that desire. don't pass judgement on those you think are passing judgement. what kind of retort is it as somebody who cares too little to tell people who care just enough that they care too much, like damn.




    this is obviously not worth responding to



    oh.... so thats the problem!


    Lmfao +1 mil
  • StudmuffinIX - Archosaur
    StudmuffinIX - Archosaur Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Proski, you have issues man. Hope you get them sorted out.

    And I gotta say, if my 'friends' think I have acted pompous towards them, they have mouths to say something to me.

    That is all b:victory

    U should make a narla in the new server I still want to roll u guys in a successful serverb:bye
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Fun Facts!

    Immunity and PHOENIX will continue to have fun TWs until Nemesis gets to them.

    Nemesis doesn't care about fun TWs so this doesn't really matter to them. They want the map, yet again.

    Elusive doesn't give a damn anymore, unfortunately.

    This server's TW is dead.

    PvE is fun? I doubt the people who say that, believe it themselves.

    Whether people want to admit it or not, the drama made this game funner, they just take it for granted and QQ like little btches about it.

    PvP server will take all the people who play this game for what it is: a source of entertainment and leave those who have invested a shiit ton of money recently to take over the map and increase their e peen. These who leave are the people who seek new competition, new people, new factions, new TWs, not to run away from "shame". I personally don't give a damn what anybody thinks about me on this server, except those who are my friends.

    Mango thinks I command a legion of nooblets who spam him squad invites and friend requests everytime he targets me in PK because apparently that's his excuse when he loses to me 6 times in a row with his freshly refined r9 bow.
    b:bye
  • brent40
    brent40 Posts: 49
    edited January 2011
    Nice list.. Can't say I will miss many of them.

    Maybe guild bases will be somthing to add PvP to a PvE server. Be less need to OMG i rulez teh map mentality.

    predictions....predictions..predictions.. Prophet brent nails yet another...
  • RioNHale - Archosaur
    RioNHale - Archosaur Posts: 566 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Fun Facts!

    Immunity and PHOENIX will continue to have fun TWs until Nemesis gets to them.

    Nemesis doesn't care about fun TWs so this doesn't really matter to them. They want the map, yet again.

    Elusive doesn't give a damn anymore, unfortunately.

    This server's TW is dead.

    PvE is fun? I doubt the people who say that, believe it themselves.

    Whether people want to admit it or not, the drama made this game funner, they just take it for granted and QQ like little btches about it.

    PvP server will take all the people who play this game for what it is: a source of entertainment and leave those who have invested a shiit ton of money recently to take over the map and increase their e peen. These who leave are the people who seek new competition, new people, new factions, new TWs, not to run away from "shame". I personally don't give a damn what anybody thinks about me on this server, except those who are my friends.

    Mango thinks I command a legion of nooblets who spam him squad invites and friend requests everytime he targets me in PK because apparently that's his excuse when he loses to me 6 times in a row with his freshly refined r9 bow.
    b:bye



    I guess were just gonna have to prepare for them best we can >.<
    ★Immunity is an Arch Server TW Faction. If you want to join Apply @ immunity.shivtr.com★ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    -Inactive 19 Sept 2011-
  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I guess were just gonna have to prepare for them best we can >.<

    Better save your pennies . . . .
    This server's TW is dead.

    Let's take a peek into the future, shall we?

    Random Nemesis Office #1: "Don't forget to sign up for TW"

    Random Nooblet Nemesis Member #1: "TW? What's that?"

    Random Nemesis Office #1: "Territory War."

    Random Nooblet Nemesis Member #1: "What's that?"

    Random Nemesis Office #1: "It what we do every Friday for 20 mintues so we can own the whole map"

    Random Nooblet Nemesis Member #1: "Is it fun?"

    Random Nemesis Office #1: "No, but we have to do it to get more land"

    Random Nooblet Nemesis Member #1: "Um, why?"

    Random Nemesis Office #1: "Just because"
    This server's TW is dead.

    PvP server will take all the people who play this game for what it is: a source of entertainment and leave those who have invested a shiit ton of money recently to take over the map and increase their e peen. These who leave are the people who seek new competition, new people, new factions, new TWs, not to run away from "shame". I personally don't give a damn what anybody thinks about me on this server, except those who are my friends.

    LOL @ "shame". Shame on an anonamous mmo, lol.

    -BLOODMYSTIC, unashamedly playing on easily identifiable alts since 2009
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2011

    Mango thinks I command a legion of nooblets who spam him squad invites and friend requests everytime he targets me in PK because apparently that's his excuse when he loses to me 6 times in a row with his freshly refined r9 bow.
    b:bye

    He has such a hard time realizing that I`m behind everything, like always. I continue this path I have chosen, spam friend requests on him every time I see him out there, to ruin his PK! I`ll rule the server, muahahahahahaa.

    Edit: Oh yeah, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCCzzZVVpIA
    Joe = Mango, Food = R9, Am I the only one who can totally see it?
    Trolling Sid since So Hot :o
  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Edit: Oh yeah, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCCzzZVVpIA
    Joe = Mango, Food = R9, Am I the only one who can totally see it?


    OMG OMG OMG - how did you ever find this and match it up with you know who? Its kinda perfect.

    WTB a transcript of this episode so I can do one of my rewrites. Its perfect.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Kehrendorh - Archosaur
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    U should make a narla in the new server I still want to roll u guys in a successful serverb:bye

    lol


    Too bad you couldn't roll anyone here, eh?
  • StudmuffinIX - Archosaur
    StudmuffinIX - Archosaur Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    lol


    Too bad you couldn't roll anyone here, eh?

    yea cuz we didnt beat narla with elusive, and we didnt beat nemesis the first week zulu was made with, oh yea get this 0 tw sign ups..... b:chuckle
  • XCableX - Archosaur
    XCableX - Archosaur Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    LF Impulse, or Former Impulse Member to be my GF.

    That's you Proc.
    youtube.com/xArsonist18 : XCableX's TW videos

    pwcalc.com/56b00d33a8c63c7d : Current BM Build for TW
  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    yea cuz we didnt beat narla with elusive, and we didnt beat nemesis the first week zulu was made with, oh yea get this 0 tw sign ups..... b:chuckle

    now now, don't derail their revisionism with facts. those types of people need to forget the past as soon as possible. If you were like them, how could you go on day to day otherwise but to forget entirely the existence of past failures?
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    now now, don't derail their revisionism with facts. those types of people need to forget the past as soon as possible. If you were like them, how could you go on day to day otherwise but to forget entirely the existence of past failures?

    facts are overrated.
  • Circce - Archosaur
    Circce - Archosaur Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    This is the generic message for ANYONE who has re-rolled a new server.

    O how I love angry internet children and trolls.

    Glad you believe they are children when they are really immature adults with no life lol b:victory
  • Circce - Archosaur
    Circce - Archosaur Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Fun Facts!

    Immunity and PHOENIX will continue to have fun TWs until Nemesis gets to them.

    Nemesis doesn't care about fun TWs so this doesn't really matter to them. They want the map, yet again.

    Elusive doesn't give a damn anymore, unfortunately.

    This server's TW is dead.

    PvE is fun? I doubt the people who say that, believe it themselves.

    Whether people want to admit it or not, the drama made this game funner, they just take it for granted and QQ like little btches about it.

    PvP server will take all the people who play this game for what it is: a source of entertainment and leave those who have invested a shiit ton of money recently to take over the map and increase their e peen. These who leave are the people who seek new competition, new people, new factions, new TWs, not to run away from "shame". I personally don't give a damn what anybody thinks about me on this server, except those who are my friends.

    Mango thinks I command a legion of nooblets who spam him squad invites and friend requests everytime he targets me in PK because apparently that's his excuse when he loses to me 6 times in a row with his freshly refined r9 bow.
    b:bye

    First of all get over yourself. PvP server is not going to take over anything. Unless they can weed out ppl from not viewing their own opinions not drama.

    Second no server PVP or PVE is worth TW for them there is no fun in destroying a crystal because ppl do not show up to def or atk.

    Third TW is not even worth it greedy faction leaders are begging for funds or as they put it donations yet they give no TW pay for simple things as repairs. Where are the drops, exp and Sp obtainable in TW? Yet you call that fun what you need to do is look up the definition for the word fun.

    I work hard for my coins and unless i get exp, sp, and drops i will not waste my skills on useless tws.b:victory
  • Anthemyra - Archosaur
    Anthemyra - Archosaur Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    First of all get over yourself. PvP server is not going to take over anything. Unless they can weed out ppl from not viewing their own opinions not drama.

    Second no server PVP or PVE is worth TW for them there is no fun in destroying a crystal because ppl do not show up to def or atk.

    Third TW is not even worth it greedy faction leaders are begging for funds or as they put it donations yet they give no TW pay for simple things as repairs. Where are the drops, exp and Sp obtainable in TW? Yet you call that fun what you need to do is look up the definition for the word fun.

    I work hard for my coins and unless i get exp, sp, and drops i will not waste my skills on useless tws.b:victory

    well i work hard for my money to .. and i can asure you i'm not the only 1 :) but yet .. what better way to spend this money if not with/for my friends ... what is the purpose of playing this game, farming money, gear up if not to use it? at lv 105 the sp and ex is going to end you know .. and then what ?
  • Zhadi - Archosaur
    Zhadi - Archosaur Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    First of all get over yourself. PvP server is not going to take over anything. Unless they can weed out ppl from not viewing their own opinions not drama.

    I'm trying to decipher wtf you just said...... Translation anybody?
    Second no server PVP or PVE is worth TW for them there is no fun in destroying a crystal because ppl do not show up to def or atk.

    Maybe not on this server because, as stated before, it's dead. Question: have you ever played on another server? If so, what good TW factions were you in?
    Third TW is not even worth it greedy faction leaders are begging for funds or as they put it donations yet they give no TW pay for simple things as repairs. Where are the drops, exp and Sp obtainable in TW? Yet you call that fun what you need to do is look up the definition for the word fun.

    I work hard for my coins and unless i get exp, sp, and drops i will not waste my skills on useless tws.b:victory

    I think it's YOU who has to look up the definition of the word fun. Fun to me is enjoying myself. TWs make me enjoy myself. I farm a few TTs during the week, a few nirvanas, and I use the money I make from those to buy myself charms, HP pots, and repairs for TW. Can you tell me what else is fun about this game? Is running the same instance for hours at a time fun?

    I don't expect a single coin from my faction leader after TW because I get out of it what I wanted, which is exactly that: fun.