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  • Vorhs - Lost City
    Vorhs - Lost City Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide wrote: »
    2. I never told him to roll another toon. I believe that all classes are equally able to be OP, it isn't the class it is the amount of cash drop. Also wizzy as a class is not fail [I have met wizzies that can kill sins easy] it isn't the class it is the person behind the toon. If you failed rolling a wizzy, you will probably fail rolling another toon too..

    The problem is simply the fact that if you're a wizard you must cash shop like hell to get a gear that BARELY let you survive the first hits of a non-cashshopper sin from stealth.

    In total endgame gear pvp is quite balanced, but in average lv100 gear it isnt. Totally.

    The difference is that since sins are incredibly OP in pve (wizards even if full rank 9 wont ever reach a dps even far similar to 5aps) they can farm whatever they want in no time, so they overall own everything, cash or not cash.

    While for wizards who dont cash shop is pratically impossible to get a good refined gear due to their incapacity to be useful in pve.
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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    list of derrogetory remarks as per class:

    Sins are OP QQ
    Blademasters are dumb
    Barbs are Masochists
    Clerics are Divas
    Venos are Xenophobes
    Psy's are flamboyant
    Wizzys are whiney
    Archers are copy cats (use fists)

    Game is dead, move on stop complainging its futile.
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  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    The problem is simply the fact that if you're a wizard you must cash shop like hell to get a gear that BARELY let you survive the first hits of a non-cashshopper sin from stealth.

    In total endgame gear pvp is quite balanced, but in average lv100 gear it isnt. Totally.

    The difference is that since sins are incredibly OP in pve (wizards even if full rank 9 wont ever reach a dps even far similar to 5aps) they can farm whatever they want in no time, so they overall own everything, cash or not cash.

    While for wizards who dont cash shop is pratically impossible to get a good refined gear due to their incapacity to be useful in pve.

    I do agree that it is hard to keep up with the 5APS sins out there. But even when I finish getting my OP gear I will be 3APS max. I'm a sage sin and APS is not my focus, so I know what you are talking about when you say it is hard to out DPS them. It is difficult for almost any arcane class to farm/solo most things, that just comes with the territory. To be honest I don't even try to farm in game, I just sale gold when I need money. When you run into a cash shopped sin you will probably die, but then again I probably would too. Being killed by someone that has spent more money on their toon than their car does not make you fail. However in an average fight with no cash shopped handicaps I believe a wizzy could hold his own.

    And when EG comes out they should be more OP than TB anyway. So all those playing sins because they are OP and not because they actually desire to play that class with switch.
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  • Hhlolz - Harshlands
    Hhlolz - Harshlands Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    list of derrogetory remarks as per class:

    Sins are OP QQ
    Blademasters are dumb
    Barbs are Masochists
    Clerics are Divas
    Venos are Xenophobes
    Psy's are flamboyant
    Wizzys are whiney
    Archers are copy cats (use fists)

    Game is dead, move on stop complainging its futile.

    Why do u post if you just copy every other sin out there?
    just get over it that sins are broken.
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  • Kinjeto - Raging Tide
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    Stop cash shopping until they fix this game.

    You should all already have a 100+ incredibly OP sin to farm whatever you need for all your alts.
    Stop giving money to this broken company until they fix everything.

    I don't care, I'm having fun bugger off freeloaders. Stop clogging up the server with your cat shops.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    So you prefer being OP and rule over everyone and everything instead of playing in a balanced and fair game?

    MMORPGs should be like a sport, go play GTA or Prototype if you lack the feeling of power in your pitiful life.
    isnt that exactly the reason why you leveled to 100 in Lost city of all servers? cause you want to pwn pple?
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  • LovesTragedy - Lost City
    LovesTragedy - Lost City Posts: 474 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Naw, i think im gonna cash shop more now.
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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why do u post if you just copy every other sin out there?
    just get over it that sins are broken.

    Because I dont think sins are broken. Always nice to see people have a sense of humor
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  • YingXiaolong - Raging Tide
    YingXiaolong - Raging Tide Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    list of derrogetory remarks as per class:

    Sins are OP QQ
    Blademasters are dumb
    Barbs are Masochists
    Clerics are Divas
    Venos are Xenophobes
    Psy's are flamboyant
    Wizzys are whiney
    Archers are copy cats (use fists)

    Game is dead, move on stop complainging its futile.

    Nobody love us! QQQQQQQQ b:cry
  • Ankiel - Raging Tide
    Ankiel - Raging Tide Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Kinjeto - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I don't care, I'm having fun bugger off freeloaders. Stop clogging up the server with your cat shops.

    i lol'd

    meow b:chuckle
  • Noskrad - Heavens Tear
    Noskrad - Heavens Tear Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »
    Hi there *** kidb:bye
    How about you go play a class that isnt broken (aka any class besides tideborn) and then try to tell him to QQ moar, oh wait he will own you because you need a broken sin to be OP, way to go kiddo.

    Totally agree with u Vorhrs, but kids will always keep yelling ''QQ more'' because they are 12 years old and they think they are baddie for owning on a broken class.

    funny how like 90% of all the sins act like this, they think theyre good or something...lulz

    To believe you're cool cuz you kill a wizz with your sin, is as stupid as kill a lvl 31 char with your lvl 80+ barb (for example) and tell him that he sux in PvP >.> .

    But Sins aren't OP, thei're just meant to rule in 1 vs 1 PvP. I see it like this: you train a sin to be better at 1 vs 1 PvP, like you train an archer to have the largest range attacks, a barb to be better on tanking bosses, or a wizz to have the higest damage per hit int he game.

    But yah, I agree that most of sins comes out from stealth mode, try to kill u, fail, go in stealth mode again, come back super fast and kill you, and then tell you that you're a looser and they're gods of war... it's so freakign stupid that I believe it should be bannable xD
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  • Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    Rofl @ all the ppl that said "no money = game closed"

    With all the money they got they can pay those ***** 5 servers they have for the next 50 years.


    And anyway, the meaning of "QQing" as reached a very low level.
    Criticising something is good when its done good. If wizards "qq" much, they have a reason to do that.

    And you know, we arent all childs. It's isnt so simple like most of you say, "just roll a good class & win"

    I already said, a game must be balanced. People shouldnt have to choose class in base of overpowerness, they should choose it just for gameplay or roleplay.

    Im very tired of all this egoism:
    "*** you im good cause i rule i dont care if others suck"

    If i was an assassin, i would never kill arcanes, cause i know they wouldnt have a single chance against me. It's simply not fairplay.

    And worst umbalance is in pve anyway, not in pvp.

    U r such a stupid kid if u dont understand that they use the money to keep upgrading this game.
  • CandyCorn - Raging Tide
    CandyCorn - Raging Tide Posts: 1,547 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    U r such a stupid kid if u dont understand that they use the money to keep upgrading this game.

    Upgrades?! Where!

    I'm kidding, but yeah pwi needs money to like survive
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  • Vorhs - Lost City
    Vorhs - Lost City Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    U r such a stupid kid if u dont understand that they use the money to keep upgrading this game.

    PWE doesn't upgrade anything, they just sometimes organize events or try to read-and-autoreply some tickets and moderate forums, just to let everyone feel like they exist. Most of them arent even paid i believe.

    Now, do you have a BARE idea of how much real cash has been put ingame by players in these 3 years? Millions i believe.

    They could continue upgrading & modding & keeping servers open for years before they actually must close.
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  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary wrote: »
    U r such a stupid kid if u dont understand that they use the money to keep upgrading this game.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8fBvX7PTdoQ/THTsurxeStI/AAAAAAAAAbM/Fbwf6S1bCa0/s1600/double-facepalm.jpg
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I don't get how people come the conclusion assassins are OP just because they fail at PK. I mean quite frankly, 1 on 1 +10 Rank 9 arcane with Pdef Shards or Jades of Steady Defense can easily own a 5aps assassin if he knows how to play his class. Or just roll a barb and stack flesh ream and win b:bye.
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  • Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary
    Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary Posts: 448 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Noskrad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But Sins aren't OP, thei're just meant to rule in 1 vs 1 PvP.
    Seems a poor design choice by the game developers; people like a good challenge and generally dislike being steam-rolled with no chance to survive except to abandon the investment in their current class and re-roll. Lack of diversity (play a sin or lose) makes for a poor PvP environment.
    Noskrad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    you train an archer to have the largest range attacks
    Doesn't stealth defeat this advantage, as well as for all ranged classes whether magic or physical? Now if ranged classes had a feature designed in to counter stealth if you invested in it, then it wouldn't seem so bad, but the developers didn't consider this, or intentionally chose to make sins over-powered in this aspect.
    Noskrad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    a barb to be better on tanking bosses
    I don't think the possibility of 5.0 attacks/sec was a "new" thing with the Tideborn expansion, but the rise of the desire for interval gear has made it to barbs are not better on tanking bosses than other classes. Whereas before the Tideborn, the mantra to a wiz or archers was "control your damage so you don't steal aggro and die," after the Tideborn you typically see Sins, and even BMs and Archers now, that go all out and either make the cleric's life hell, or they can kill so fast that both clerics and barbs are no longer needed in such squads.
    Noskrad - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    a wizz to have the higest damage per hit int he game.
    Damage per hit isn't really important, unless you're talking about 1-shotting a mob or player. Damage per Second (or DPS) is what matters and clearly Sins with even modest gear will out DPS wizards with pretty high-end equipment. I don't play a wizard, but what's the incentive to roll one now? About as much incentive as there is to roll a barb. When you relegate an existing class to near uselessness, it reflects a really poor design decision or a lack of concsious integrated design altogether.

    PW-CN may not have intentionally broken things with the introduction of Tideborn and the allowance of 5 attacks/sec, but it certainly does narrow down the choices to "do this specific formula or lose." Lack of choice is usually bad; lots of choices with moderate pros and cons, but overall near equal power is usually much better.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    PWE doesn't upgrade anything, they just sometimes organize events or try to read-and-autoreply some tickets and moderate forums, just to let everyone feel like they exist. Most of them arent even paid i believe.

    Now, do you have a BARE idea of how much real cash has been put ingame by players in these 3 years? Millions i believe.

    They could continue upgrading & modding & keeping servers open for years before they actually must close.
    I agree with you. But GM in this game cannot do anything. Even compensate DQ lower price They had to do it externally(not in game). With www. page help. They literally cannot do anything. They only take money and transfer some % to china. Nothing else. That's why they are so quiet about apparently unbalanced game.
    I NEVER read some words from GM how they want to make game better and more balanced. NOTHING!!!
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  • Anri_Rose - Archosaur
    Anri_Rose - Archosaur Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    They are sneakily making us all rage quit in an effort to make us all go play Forsaken world.
    Where have all the mages gone. Long time casting.
    Who altered my siggy im
    kinda scared b:shocked
  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't get how people come the conclusion assassins are OP just because they fail at PK. I mean quite frankly, 1 on 1 +10 Rank 9 arcane with Pdef Shards or Jades of Steady Defense can easily own a 5aps assassin if he knows how to play his class. Or just roll a barb and stack flesh ream and win b:bye.

    You know that sins with the same gears can kill almost or even equal geared bm so fast that his charm won't tick? ( under marrow phy ) and a wiz isn't going to reach that hp & phy res,ijs :3
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  • ResMePls - Heavens Tear
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,349 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You know that sins with the same gears can kill almost or even equal geared bm so fast that his charm won't tick? ( under marrow phy ) and a wiz isn't going to reach that hp & phy res,ijs :3

    You obviously have not seen a wizzy own everyone with a sleep and hailstorm lockb:bye. Also you should come on HT and meet a certain Enrage wizzy, he has more PDEF then a 90 barb for some reason.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Cash Shopping doesn't make you rich and get you everything if that were the case I would have my Nirvana set made up buy now.I don't even have my TT90 set made up it is those who farm the good mats as well as tt mats that are rich.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • LShattered - Heavens Tear
    LShattered - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,365 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    Stop cash shopping until they fix this game.

    You should all already have a 100+ incredibly OP sin to farm whatever you need for all your alts.
    Stop giving money to this broken company until they fix everything.

    Are you dumb? I guess so.

    If everyone stopped cash shopping...guess what would happen...oh that's right, this game wouldn't be available anymore.
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  • SinfuINature - Harshlands
    SinfuINature - Harshlands Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    And anyway, the meaning of "QQing" as reached a very low level.
    Criticising something is good when its done good. If wizards "qq" much, they have a reason to do that.

    And you know, we arent all childs. It's isnt so simple like most of you say, "just roll a good class & win"

    I already said, a good game must be balanced. People shouldnt have to choose class in base of overpowerness, they should choose it just for gameplay or roleplay.

    and this is what is wrong with america... this kind of thinking... lets make it 100% fair for everyone... spread the wealth... give everyone a gold star... wait litlle jimmys trophey is smaller than little johnnys trophey even though jimmy got PWN all of the field... NOT FAIR... b:cry me a river plz... PICK A DIFFRENT CLASS
  • Diverse - Harshlands
    Diverse - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide wrote: »
    And he was QQing directly about OP sins.

    If you fail at PK maybe you can stay in arch? Or you can always go play some nice java based MMO instead, I'm sure you will enjoy that more. You can spend hours cutting down trees.

    LOL cutting down trees... memories <3
  • Kaledrina - Lost City
    Kaledrina - Lost City Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    SinfuINature - Harshlands wrote: »
    and this is what is wrong with america... this kind of thinking... lets make it 100% fair for everyone... spread the wealth... give everyone a gold star... wait litlle jimmys trophey is smaller than little johnnys trophey even though jimmy got PWN all of the field... NOT FAIR... b:cry me a river plz... PICK A DIFFRENT CLASS

    There's a huge difference between making something fair and balanced versus making it to where everybody wins and nobody loses (Which is, by the way, neither fair nor balanced).
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Seekers will be out soon. Sins will be the hunted, not the hunters. Everyone looking for OP will reroll as a EG class and sins will be hunted for at one time holding a title of "OP". The only sins that will be left are the ones that actually enjoy the class.

    So lets start QQ now on how OP EG are. Game broke, EG OP.

    [Oh wait, people are already QQing over EG. b:chuckle]
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    n.
    1. One who murders by surprise attack, especially one who carries out a plot to kill a prominent person.
    synonyms: murderer, killer, gunman, executioner, informalhitman, hired gun.
    Latin assassnus; Greek δολοφόνος
  • Jenovadeath - Lost City
    Jenovadeath - Lost City Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    b:shocked
    Vorhs - Lost City wrote: »
    So you prefer being OP and rule over everyone and everything instead of playing in a balanced and fair game?

    MMORPGs should be like a sport, go play GTA or Prototype if you lack the feeling of power in your pitiful life.

    lol heres an idea that would **** all sins off cross the board yet make pwi tons of money in the same way and no before you go off into QQ sins are OP they are in some ways but other than force stealth rewarding them with a spark its deaden nerves which pretty much made the charm obsolete for avoiding being one shot by other classes Sins are the only class that can get away with this skill and avoid being one shot by any other class reguardless the amount of damage inflicted on them by any skill by any other class.

    Also? Just curious does this work on being red named by a guard will the npc's have to hit you twice with that OP 150k hit to actually kill you or does it Over ride it like it does on charms for the rest the classes?
  • ZeaKuro - Raging Tide
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Jenovadeath - Lost City wrote: »
    b:shocked

    lol heres an idea that would **** all sins off cross the board yet make pwi tons of money in the same way and no before you go off into QQ sins are OP they are in some ways but other than force stealth rewarding them with a spark its deaden nerves which pretty much made the charm obsolete for avoiding being one shot by other classes Sins are the only class that can get away with this skill and avoid being one shot by any other class reguardless the amount of damage inflicted on them by any skill by any other class.

    Also? Just curious does this work on being red named by a guard will the npc's have to hit you twice with that OP 150k hit to actually kill you or does it Over ride it like it does on charms for the rest the classes?

    From my experience of being a noob and retardedly forgetting I was red named and walking back through the gate guards still seemed to kill me pretty fast. With deaden nerves+charm tick if you are just watching your HP it was like you was never even hit so the second hit can still be a surprise if your not paying full attention. b:surrender
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    /əˈsasin/
    n.
    1. One who murders by surprise attack, especially one who carries out a plot to kill a prominent person.
    synonyms: murderer, killer, gunman, executioner, informalhitman, hired gun.
    Latin assassnus; Greek δολοφόνος
  • Jenovadeath - Lost City
    Jenovadeath - Lost City Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    ZeaKuro - Raging Tide wrote: »
    From my experience of being a noob and retardedly forgetting I was red named and walking back through the gate guards still seemed to kill me pretty fast. With deaden nerves+charm tick if you are just watching your HP it was like you was never even hit so the second hit can still be a surprise if your not paying full attention. b:surrender

    b:laughThats my whole point though there shouldn't be a second hit they bypass a charm when they hit you I'm not super geared out I only have 15k hp but even with a charm thats around 22k hp they hit you for and if a sin has deaden up and theres even remotely a chance to be hit a second time that ought to tell everyone right there that the skill is either OP or broken one way or another. Especically when the first hit is for 100k+

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