Prices on harshlands server
Cimon - Harshlands
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this is one o them great QQ threads everyone loves to hate gold is at 800k plus and there is 452,312,800 coins profit to be made curently at prices in gold buying how did nurfing dq and tw fix our finances how did dq points fix the rebound from lack of coin seeing as we cant even sell what we get with thoose points and what did you guys do to tt i was in 3-1 today i found it imposable to kill the giant beast armour boss with the purgeing and hp debuff he was mysteriously granted how do you exspect low lvls to farm there gear without a 5 aps sin or bm or heck why not cleric or wiz or anyone else you can throw a pair of decides on and be alluva sudden the most sought after fool on the server fix it guys it aint hard aint time consumeing and it wont cost ya anything if anything at all you will make more money setting gold to say 200k a peice at max then the cashoppers need to buy more gold in order to make money rather then consistantly makeing it harder for free to play players and way easy for someone wit mom and pops credit card even it out guys this is getting old
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Cimon - Harshlands wrote: »this is one o them great QQ threads everyone loves to hate gold is at 800k plus and there is 452,312,800 coins profit to be made curently at prices in gold buying how did nurfing dq and tw fix our finances how did dq points fix the rebound from lack of coin seeing as we cant even sell what we get with thoose points and what did you guys do to tt i was in 3-1 today i found it imposable to kill the giant beast armour boss with the purgeing and hp debuff he was mysteriously granted how do you exspect low lvls to farm there gear without a 5 aps sin or bm or heck why not cleric or wiz or anyone else you can throw a pair of decides on and be alluva sudden the most sought after fool on the server fix it guys it aint hard aint time consumeing and it wont cost ya anything if anything at all you will make more money setting gold to say 200k a peice at max then the cashoppers need to buy more gold in order to make money rather then consistantly makeing it harder for free to play players and way easy for someone wit mom and pops credit card even it out guys this is getting old
Didn't read because it made my head hurt, but what about rice on Harshlands server?0 -
threepointone wrote: »Didn't read because it made my head hurt, but what about rice on Harshlands server?
I think the op meant prices, but I'm not sure.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
yea meant prices and yea am a horrible person i dont use punctuation and i spell like a five year old next?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]ty mystic man for the sig0
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i dont know about rice on HL but it looks that fullstops are veeeery expensive.
but yeah, devs should put a maximum price for gold so they can money from teles that people will use to sell gold b:mischievous0 -
no they wont make more profit at 200k apiece cuz a good portion of people will charge zen at such a high rate of coin return not just those who would buy what they have on sale at the boutique isnt it fun reading a post from someone when they dont use any punctuation god i love it i would fap right now if i could qq 5aps qq 3-1 qq gold prices qq tw qq qq qq0
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ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »fullstops
I'm guessing that you are from England.
They're the only people I ever hear say "fullstop".
OP, PW will never cap gold prices at 200k.
As for the boss in question, I've never been there so I don't know.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »no they wont make more profit at 200k apiece cuz a good portion of people will charge zen at such a high rate of coin return not just those who would buy what they have on sale at the boutique isnt it fun reading a post from someone when they dont use any punctuation god i love it i would fap right now if i could qq 5aps qq 3-1 qq gold prices qq tw qq qq qq
All I read was in this was "fap".Gigglesnort - Lost City wrote: »I'm guessing that you are from England.
They're the only people I ever fear say "fullstop".
Us Australian people do as well. :>0 -
Cimon - Harshlands wrote: »this is one o them great QQ threads everyone loves to hate gold is at 800k plus and there is 452,312,800 coins profit to be made curently at prices in gold buying how did nurfing dq and tw fix our finances how did dq points fix the rebound from lack of coin seeing as we cant even sell what we get with thoose points and what did you guys do to tt i was in 3-1 today i found it imposable to kill the giant beast armour boss with the purgeing and hp debuff he was mysteriously granted how do you exspect low lvls to farm there gear without a 5 aps sin or bm or heck why not cleric or wiz or anyone else you can throw a pair of decides on and be alluva sudden the most sought after fool on the server fix it guys it aint hard aint time consumeing and it wont cost ya anything if anything at all you will make more money setting gold to say 200k a peice at max then the cashoppers need to buy more gold in order to make money rather then consistantly makeing it harder for free to play players and way easy for someone wit mom and pops credit card even it out guys this is getting old
Your grammar is horrific.
From what I gathered from your huge ramble on sentence, makes me question if you go out much and get away from your computer.
If you don't like the path that PWI has gone down; then stop playing it.0 -
threepointone wrote: »Us Australian people do as well. :>
Huh, learn something new every day.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Oblio - Dreamweaver wrote: »Your grammar is horrific.
From what I gathered from your huge ramble on sentence, makes me question if you go out much and get away from your computer.
If you don't like the path that PWI has gone down; then stop playing it.
first off i get out quite alot not that its any of your concern there cyber warrior secondly if ya wanna fix my first post be my guest but i dont wanna hear about it third im almost never away from a comp i keep one in my pocket because my work requires it
and a simple ? why am i being called OP if im not mistaken[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]ty mystic man for the sig0 -
fap away there tough guy look if ya dont wanna read my QQ seek other forms of entertainment otherwise be constructive not a clownJanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »no they wont make more profit at 200k apiece cuz a good portion of people will charge zen at such a high rate of coin return not just those who would buy what they have on sale at the boutique isnt it fun reading a post from someone when they dont use any punctuation god i love it i would fap right now if i could qq 5aps qq 3-1 qq gold prices qq tw qq qq qq[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]ty mystic man for the sig0 -
Cimon - Harshlands wrote: »and a simple ? why am i being called OP if im not mistaken
OP = original poster[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Cimon - Harshlands wrote: »This is one of those great QQ threads everyone loves to hate. Gold is at 800k plus, and there is 452,312,800 coins profit to be made curently at the prices in gold buying. How did nerfing DQ and TW fix our finances? How did DQ Points fix the rebound from lack of coin, since we can't even sell what we get with those points?
And what did you guys do to TT?? I was in 3-1 today, and I found it impossible to kill the GBA boss. With the purging and hp debuff he was mysteriously granted, how do you expect low levels to farm their gear without a 5 aps sin, bm, or (heck why not) cleric or wiz, or anyone else you can throw a pair of decides on and be all of the sudden the most sought after fool on the server.
Fix it guys! It isn't hard, isn't time consuming, and it won't cost you anything! If anything at all, you will make more money setting gold to, say, 200k a piece max. Then, the cashoppers need to buy more gold in order to make money, rather then consistently making it harder for non-cash shopping players and way easier for someone with mom and pop's credit card. Even it out guys...this is getting old
Figured I would post a version that people would be more likely to read. Punctuation and grammar are your friends, bud.
Anyway, to answer some of your concerns:
1)Issues with Gold prices.
The only thing set by PWE is the max limit for which Gold can be sold. From past threads on this topic, it has been determined that the higher Gold prices go, the more likely people are to charge themselves, thus bringing the company more money. Thus (according to those past threads) it is in PWE's interests to allow prices to rise.*
2)Issues with current TT3-x.
This has been purposely made more difficult, apparently to prevent the soloing of the instance by farmers. Again, I am only telling you what has already been stated in other threads.
3)Issues with how the cash shop affects the game.
You will find this in any F2P MMO you will ever play. There will have to be things in the cash shop that give players an advantage, otherwise very few people would actually buy it. Just remember whenever you see a player with things from the cash shop...they are paying to allow you to play for free.
Hope I dealt with your questions in a succinct, yet kind, enough manner.
*These remarks are by no means representative of the beliefs of PWE, its employees, or any affiliates and their employees. It is simply an objective remark made on observation.0 -
actually i like reading it and making fun of it isnt it fun but you failed to answer any of the substance of the post either explain why people wouldnt charge zen at a higher gold rate than a price ceiling of 200k yeah i didnt think so either its not about making sense at all its just about random whining yay look at me i can whine and arent i cool for raging on my keyboard and destroying the period/comma key oh right before i forget people interestingly farmed their gear way before 5aps you must have just joined the game you should try and learn how it works im just saying but anyhow back to your qq its funnyCimon - Harshlands wrote: »fap away there tough guy look if ya dont wanna read my QQ seek other forms of entertainment otherwise be constructive not a clown0 -
Figured I would post a version that people would be more likely to read. Punctuation and grammar are your friends, bud.
Anyway, to answer some of your concerns:
1)Issues with Gold prices.
The only thing set by PWE is the max limit for which Gold can be sold. From past threads on this topic, it has been determined that the higher Gold prices go, the more likely people are to charge themselves, thus bringing the company more money. Thus (according to those past threads) it is in PWE's interests to allow prices to rise.*
2)Issues with current TT3-x.
This has been purposely made more difficult, apparently to prevent the soloing of the instance by farmers. Again, I am only telling you what has already been stated in other threads.
3)Issues with how the cash shop affects the game.
You will find this in any F2P MMO you will ever play. There will have to be things in the cash shop that give players an advantage, otherwise very few people would actually buy it. Just remember whenever you see a player with things from the cash shop...they are paying to allow you to play for free.
Hope I dealt with your questions in a succinct, yet kind, enough manner.
*These remarks are by no means representative of the beliefs of PWE, its employees, or any affiliates and their employees. It is simply an objective remark made on observation.
see now this is what im talking bout right here simple to the point not condisending <---pretty sure i mispelled that ive never been taught how to use punctuation so sorry bout the mess now for some small not mean counter points
1) yes people will buy gold to get a chance to sell it at a infalted value but those same people will also pump gold into the game if prices were reduced in order to afford what they are used to hypers every fc tokens packs so on and so forth people become frustraited with the high gold prices due to the fact that your average player is incapable of generating enough coin vrs repairs/restock to even obtain gold
2) as for the tt issue 3-1 is a instance intended for people to farm there tt 90 so why would a squad being comprised of people all above 90 with ok gear unable to complete it especially after clearing the required mobs
3) im not interested in any other mmo as of now and this is my first mmo ive been here two years now and i feel like the cash shop is hurting the game and i say this because classes have become outdated due to the cash shop barbs are gone from servers mostly any that are left are rude because they know there a dieing breed and exploit that fact for monetary gain and if i dont have a 5 aps sin handy nothing can get done nirvana squads wont take a ax bm if they dont second fist and have - int gear
so all in all i fail to see how it being refered to in another forum post makes the problem solved i also fail to see how im suposed to make money in game to affored such things as pots and repairs id honestly rather pay a monthly fee in order to be even rather then struggle to incorperate myself into a game that dose not want me does not need me
as for the remark about the cashoppers paying for my freedom to play does this also give them the right to torture harrass people and make the game all and all less fun[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]ty mystic man for the sig0 -
Figured I would post a version that people would be more likely to read.
Heh. Read. You're funny. Good effort, though.
OP: Cap gold at 200k? Two things: 1. Really? 2. Why 200k? Just wondering. I mean, if you're going to request it that low, might as well go for like 50k or 20k, right?
Edit:Cimon - Harshlands wrote: »as for the remark about the cashoppers paying for my freedom to play does this also give them the right to torture harrass people and make the game all and all less fun
This is actually a valid question. No, it doesn't. But a LOT of people tend to feel that they have that right, even when they don't pay a dime, just because they're So. Freakin. Awesome. Entitled people will feel entitled for any reason, and if they don't have a reason, then they'll be entitled for no reason. Cashshoppers with that personality type feel better about themselves for "supporting the game." Meanwhile, the f2p ones feel elite because they can be wtfpr0 without paying money.0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »actually i like reading it and making fun of it isnt it fun but you failed to answer any of the substance of the post either explain why people wouldnt charge zen at a higher gold rate than a price ceiling of 200k yeah i didnt think so either its not about making sense at all its just about random whining yay look at me i can whine and arent i cool for raging on my keyboard and destroying the period/comma key oh right before i forget people interestingly farmed their gear way before 5aps you must have just joined the game you should try and learn how it works im just saying but anyhow back to your qq its funny
i was in before genies before hypers and before people like you who try to make my complaints somehow insignificant with two letters "QQ" the concept is baffling please let the grownups talk here save the childish banter for somewhere else[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]ty mystic man for the sig0 -
I love rice man, i really do.
But the OP has a point, only cashshopper will remain in this game. the other person who cant afford "the change" become frustrated and has to leave the game sooner or later.0 -
Kaledrina - Lost City wrote: »Heh. Read. You're funny. Good effort, though.
OP: Cap gold at 200k? Two things: 1. Really? 2. Why 200k? Just wondering. I mean, if you're going to request it that low, might as well go for like 50k or 20k, right?
200k prevents people from buying coin with hammers anything less would make all the previous efforts to control gold flow kinda pointless unless they got rid of the hammers wich in and of itself is silly because then they got to rework a way to make you pay for supply stash lvl 50 wich would be more effort then its worth i myself have not yet figured out all the ramifications for this issue but am mearly sugestion a good stern look into the way things are would be refreshing rather then too bad too sad this is the way it is stop complaining thing that we get every time we have a thought[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]ty mystic man for the sig0 -
If gold was capped at 200k, people would have to buy the items and sell those to get their equivalent value of 800k. This would mean more hassle for the cash shoppers in order to sell off their gold, meaning they would be less likely to do so. It would also mean it would become much more of a pain to acquire your cash shop items, as you can't simply buy the gold anymore, and would have to depend on some cash shopper trying to sell of the items you want. Yeah, they could also advertise their willingness to do so, but still, it's a lot less convenient for everyone involved and would require both parties to be in game and available simultaneously.
At least, unless I'm unaware of some method for trading gold of course. Furthermore, the gold auction house bit will become useless, as nobody in their right mind would sell off gold for 200k if they could sell an item of equivalent cost for 800k.0 -
WRONG. The other thing set by PWE which has the major influence on Gold prices is what is available in Boutique at the time. PWE fully controls Gold prices with sales because they know people *will* charge Zen/buy Gold when there's something good in CS.Anyway, to answer some of your concerns:
1)Issues with Gold prices.
The only thing set by PWE is the max limit for which Gold can be sold.
No rocket science here, yet people seem to forget about that o_O
I see nothing wrong in that actually, the only thing that concerns me is that GMs claimed at some point that they will try to "fix" the economy and bring Gold prices down. That was an unnecessary lie ;]Packs World International0 -
ItsAWolf - Archosaur wrote: »If gold was capped at 200k, people would have to buy the items and sell those to get their equivalent value of 800k. This would mean more hassle for the cash shoppers in order to sell off their gold, meaning they would be less likely to do so. It would also mean it would become much more of a pain to acquire your cash shop items, as you can't simply buy the gold anymore, and would have to depend on some cash shopper trying to sell of the items you want. Yeah, they could also advertise their willingness to do so, but still, it's a lot less convenient for everyone involved and would require both parties to be in game and available simultaneously.
At least, unless I'm unaware of some method for trading gold of course. Furthermore, the gold auction house bit will become useless, as nobody in their right mind would sell off gold for 200k if they could sell an item of equivalent cost for 800k.
my point exactly well not quite but you bring a point i been getting at no one in there right minds would do such a thing but they did and they didnt complain about it and it went on untill packs and all sorts of sales gold was available for that price and sometimes less and people still put tons of cash into the game gold was always available and none was left out in both cases we would stand to lose some of the players and gain some more only in one case everyone is more or less content speaking for non cashop players is hard seeing as how i lightly cashop currently and feverishly cashopped previously but i assure you overall happiness of the average player and quality of gameplay has declined due to a rise in price of everything i suggest a revamping of the entire merchent client pwi relashonship and this revamping should address PWE's concern as well as our player base rather then to appeal to a small crowd[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]ty mystic man for the sig0 -
Cimon - Harshlands wrote: »i was in before genies before hypers and before people like you who try to make my complaints somehow insignificant with two letters "QQ" the concept is baffling please let the grownups talk here save the childish banter for somewhere else
ok here lets have a grownup discussion of qq embellishments and presume pwi hates money wow great business sense goes well with your sentence structure you should be a business major whoops i am one btw i love how you suggest the price of "everything" has risen ur absolutely right mp pots have increased oops not those i mean hp pots have oops not those uhh hypers not those uhh skill books not those subs not those apoc pages not those holy **** it looks like very very few things that are the most elastic in price like gold and aero mounts from flyer tickets and charms have gone up in price wow ive played since 1462 when your forefathers put the "q" in "qq" hell yeah revamp the entire merchant client pwi relationship and stop appealing to the small crowd who seems to be all still playing and enjoying the game instead lets revamp the game to appeal to the enormous amount of forum users that are well larger than those who play the game oops looks like you ****ed that one up again im sure feeling deja vu here..Cimon - Harshlands wrote: »my point exactly well not quite but you bring a point i been getting at no one in there right minds would do such a thing but they did and they didnt complain about it and it went on untill packs and all sorts of sales gold was available for that price and sometimes less and people still put tons of cash into the game gold was always available and none was left out in both cases we would stand to lose some of the players and gain some more only in one case everyone is more or less content speaking for non cashop players is hard seeing as how i lightly cashop currently and feverishly cashopped previously but i assure you overall happiness of the average player and quality of gameplay has declined due to a rise in price of everything i suggest a revamping of the entire merchent client pwi relashonship and this revamping should address PWE's concern as well as our player base rather then to appeal to a small crowd
I don't even know where this comes from. It sounds like a statement that had little thought behind it at all.kingfoolish wrote: »I love rice man, i really do.
But the OP has a point, only cashshopper will remain in this game. the other person who cant afford "the change" become frustrated and has to leave the game sooner or later.
1) Cash shoppers have been some of the most frustrated people. Some of the biggest blew coin on rank gear before the rep sale. Same issue with those who kept whining about anni packs coming out again and again in 2009. They wanted their cash shop exclusivity.
2) Of the handful of RL friends of mine who play this game, I'm the only one who's even used the cash shop with my own money. The others have spent maybe $20 they got in PWI gift cards as a xmas/bday from others who knew they wanted it and bought it from 7/11 or Target. They highly enjoy the game still.
3) Everyone leaves the game sooner or later, that's the revolving door of games correlating to gamers. MMORPG's tend to have a fairly short lifespan with a few exceptions, but hell, if the company I used to work for still has their flagship game running well for 5 years and 99% of people use bots, this one is doing fine for a while.
The only people that can't tolerate the "change" have actually left, because they can't handle change. Good for them, they're actually people I respect, even if I disagree with them. Every MMORPG changes. Those that complain about PWI not fixing bugs, they are the ones that are on the right track -- I don't see PWI having a very long lifespan with the way they treat fixing the problems they create with their game as far as bugs and glitches go. Those that keep complaining about changes and every little sale that occurs, they're wasting text. PWI doesn't care about their whining, nor their cool kid group of game is dead nerdragers. They're too busy trying making money, and those who enjoy the product, even with it's flaws, are putting a price value to their entertainment. Those are the people PWI listen to most, because they want to both survive and profit as much as they can.0 -
Can this thread just be about how much awsumer Harshlands is than all the other servers?I
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I remember reading here on these very forums , that gold was capped at 1 mill a piece in AH . Now I know and You know that gold has , on occasion , risen about the 1 mill mark . They lock and delete so many threads now that i cannot locate the thread that stated this . My point is.. why not put a cap ( it never existed ! ) on gold at a lower price ? People will still buy Zen , but more will buy Gold if lower. I see people all the time trying to sell their Zen in WC, its become difficult to sellb:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry We love this game STOP RUINING IT !! b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry
"Sometimes the strongest are the ones that walk away . Enough is Enough ".0 -
...in the Auction House.The only thing set by PWE is the max limit for which Gold can be sold
In other versions, when Gold prices went past 1m, there was no Gold for sale in the AH. If you wanted Gold, you'd WC your price and then another player would then buy the cash-shop items you wanted and you'd pay them accordingly.
So a cap on Gold prices won't lower Gold prices, it will just make it disappear for most F2P players. Merchants like myself would keep right on buying it though, spamming WC with our constant buy offers and then charging much, much higher mark-ups than the ~5-8% we currently charge.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Holy **** that was unreadable.
From other peoples posts however, I gather this is about the 800k Gold prices and stuff.
Eh, sucks. But thats the way it is. I think PWE could be a little more interested in the ingame market so that gold wasnt quite this high, but 200k... Those days are gone. Long gone.
I personally think that when it was 400k it was best. Cashoppers got good money for IRL work, and ingame earners got good stuff with good efforts. Now its gotten to the point where IRL living off benefits will buy you the game and grinding in-game for 24 hours (Aside 5aps farmers) wont buy you much more than a charm.0 -
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=10117412#post10117412
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3-1 GBA boss guide. Use it and stop ********.
And Warren is entirely right. Supposedly, gold prices on MY-EN are at about 2.5mil now and they still have the 1mil price limit instead of the 4mil we have here. People just buy and sell through WC.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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So it appears that Harshlands is pretty expensive.
Eoria, this totally means that you should come to Dreamweaver b:victory b:shy0 -
GrimReaperHC wrote: »So it appears that Harshlands is pretty expensive.
Eoria, this totally means that you should come to Dreamweaver b:victory b:shy
Hands off, she cant leave HL til she gets me those 2049795 Mysterious chips b:angry0
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